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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)

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  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,727
    JamesSeed said:

    Croydon said:

    JamesSeed said:

    Just a point of order.

    On the Bitsize thread it states: “Following an exchange with @JamesSeed Gerard Murphy from the Aussie Consortium warns of ‘a difficult two weeks ahead’, but also that ‘it’ll all be worthwhile’”

    What he actually said was slightly different:

    “There may be a couple of difficult weeks ahead but it will be all worth while when it is completed.” (When the sale is completed, not the two weeks).

    I know this ‘statement‘ caused anger when the sale didn’t happen two week after it was posted. Hopefully you’ll agree that the actual words used make it less date specific.

    In future I’ll keep messages like that to myself to avoid raising expectations unnecessarily.

    Could just relay them accurately?
    It’s only a tiny difference as @chizz has said, (but add ‘when it is completed’) but it could be interpreted slightly differently. My mistake.
    That wasn't an attempt to dig you out, may have just saved you some stick when the '2 weeks' had passed.
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    edited August 2018
    Dazzler21 said:

    Stop all the attacks on anything @JamesSeed posts please chaps or I'll have to get @crumbles to start dishing out bans.

    On the subject of Topics, I prefer Mars over those and (Marathon) Snickers bars.

    I do miss a good lion bar though.

    Four for a £1 in Tescos the other day @Dazzler21 one bite though these days and they're gone :disappointed: .
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    Dazzler21 said:

    Stop all the attacks on anything @JamesSeed posts please chaps or I'll have to get @crumbles to start dishing out bans.

    On the subject of Topics, I prefer Mars over those and (Marathon) Snickers bars.

    I do miss a good lion bar though.

    I can’t believe you numbskulls have forgotten the mighty, but long lamented, Aztec bar. Early seventies?
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    RedChaser said:

    Dazzler21 said:

    Stop all the attacks on anything @JamesSeed posts please chaps or I'll have to get @crumbles to start dishing out bans.

    On the subject of Topics, I prefer Mars over those and (Marathon) Snickers bars.

    I do miss a good lion bar though.

    Four for a £1 in Tescos the other day @Dazzler21 one bite though these days and they're gone :disappointed: .
    No way... How dare they?!

    I'll pop in on my way home I think :lol:
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    Croydon said:

    JamesSeed said:

    Croydon said:

    JamesSeed said:

    Just a point of order.

    On the Bitsize thread it states: “Following an exchange with @JamesSeed Gerard Murphy from the Aussie Consortium warns of ‘a difficult two weeks ahead’, but also that ‘it’ll all be worthwhile’”

    What he actually said was slightly different:

    “There may be a couple of difficult weeks ahead but it will be all worth while when it is completed.” (When the sale is completed, not the two weeks).

    I know this ‘statement‘ caused anger when the sale didn’t happen two week after it was posted. Hopefully you’ll agree that the actual words used make it less date specific.

    In future I’ll keep messages like that to myself to avoid raising expectations unnecessarily.

    Could just relay them accurately?
    It’s only a tiny difference as @chizz has said, (but add ‘when it is completed’) but it could be interpreted slightly differently. My mistake.
    That wasn't an attempt to dig you out, may have just saved you some stick when the '2 weeks' had passed.
    No worries mate. I can’t believe I messed that up, considering my self proclaimed ‘I post everything verbatim’ claim. I do remember thinking it wouldn’t go down well though. :-(
  • To_Be_Franck
    To_Be_Franck Posts: 1,095
    RedChaser said:

    Dazzler21 said:

    Stop all the attacks on anything @JamesSeed posts please chaps or I'll have to get @crumbles to start dishing out bans.

    On the subject of Topics, I prefer Mars over those and (Marathon) Snickers bars.

    I do miss a good lion bar though.

    Four for a £1 in Tescos the other day @Dazzler21 one bite though these days and they're gone :disappointed: .
    See, I warned you that practising your deepthroating skills would end badly
  • To_Be_Franck
    To_Be_Franck Posts: 1,095

    page 1234 was wiped out by the bad karma

    the next significant number for numerology is 1248 so look out for good news when that hits but good vibes only

    Personally, I'm particularly looking forward to 2468
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,219

    page 1234 was wiped out by the bad karma

    the next significant number for numerology is 1248 so look out for good news when that hits but good vibes only

    Personally, I'm particularly looking forward to 2468
    Never too late
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    edited August 2018

    RedChaser said:

    Dazzler21 said:

    Stop all the attacks on anything @JamesSeed posts please chaps or I'll have to get @crumbles to start dishing out bans.

    On the subject of Topics, I prefer Mars over those and (Marathon) Snickers bars.

    I do miss a good lion bar though.

    Four for a £1 in Tescos the other day @Dazzler21 one bite though these days and they're gone :disappointed: .
    See, I warned you that practising your deepthroating skills would end badly
    You're right I should've listened to man a speaking from experience :smirk: .
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  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,331
    JamesSeed said:

    Croydon said:

    JamesSeed said:

    Just a point of order.

    On the Bitsize thread it states: “Following an exchange with @JamesSeed Gerard Murphy from the Aussie Consortium warns of ‘a difficult two weeks ahead’, but also that ‘it’ll all be worthwhile’”

    What he actually said was slightly different:

    “There may be a couple of difficult weeks ahead but it will be all worth while when it is completed.” (When the sale is completed, not the two weeks).

    I know this ‘statement‘ caused anger when the sale didn’t happen two week after it was posted. Hopefully you’ll agree that the actual words used make it less date specific.

    In future I’ll keep messages like that to myself to avoid raising expectations unnecessarily.

    Could just relay them accurately?
    It’s only a tiny difference as @chizz has said, (but add ‘when it is completed’) but it could be interpreted slightly differently. My mistake.
    The "when it is completed" bit wasn't included when you posted it last month, though. You've added it today. I just think it's a bit unfair to @Henry Irving to criticise him for excluding something you hadn't actually posted until after Henry wrote his precis.

    In fact, I would go as far as to say that the meaning of the message you got is entirely different with the inclusion of the (previously omitted) wording. And, with that inclusion, it's an even stronger, more positive message.

    So, instead of the meaning being "the deal will be completed after the next two weeks, which will be difficult", it's "the deal will be completed at some stage, but the next two weeks will be difficult". One gives a deadline which, now that it's passed, means failure. The other provides some information to confirm the takeover is still progressing.

    So, in the light of this, do you know, or have you heard, or do you think the difficult two weeks were successfully completed? Or have you not had an indication yet?
  • To_Be_Franck
    To_Be_Franck Posts: 1,095
    RedChaser said:

    RedChaser said:

    Dazzler21 said:

    Stop all the attacks on anything @JamesSeed posts please chaps or I'll have to get @crumbles to start dishing out bans.

    On the subject of Topics, I prefer Mars over those and (Marathon) Snickers bars.

    I do miss a good lion bar though.

    Four for a £1 in Tescos the other day @Dazzler21 one bite though these days and they're gone :disappointed: .
    See, I warned you that practising your deepthroating skills would end badly
    You're right I should've listened to man a speaking from experience :smirk: .
    Shocked you decided to practice on a lion though
  • KBslittlesis
    KBslittlesis Posts: 8,602
    Well, that Mark West is an interesting fellow.



    Said no one, EVER.


    For the love of god & all that is holy........................ROLAND JUST SELL THE FECKING CLUB ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885

    RedChaser said:

    RedChaser said:

    Dazzler21 said:

    Stop all the attacks on anything @JamesSeed posts please chaps or I'll have to get @crumbles to start dishing out bans.

    On the subject of Topics, I prefer Mars over those and (Marathon) Snickers bars.

    I do miss a good lion bar though.

    Four for a £1 in Tescos the other day @Dazzler21 one bite though these days and they're gone :disappointed: .
    See, I warned you that practising your deepthroating skills would end badly
    You're right I should've listened to man a speaking from experience :smirk: .
    Shocked you decided to practice on a lion though
    It wasn't easy, I had to cut his claws first :-)
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126

    So back on topic -

    Does anyone else think that, as the EFL go to so many lengths to ensure the buyers are checked in the first place, they should also keep tabs on clubs and pay special attention to those that don't have hardly any senior back office management and no permanent football manager / assistant manager?

    I woulda thought that when an owner starts to show signs of neglect or strange behaviour, they should be asked to come before the EFL to reassure them the Club is still in safe hands and maybe provide a plan going forward.

    What is happening now is obvioudly ludicrous and makes the fit and proper person test seem a complete waste of time imo, considering RD only passed it under 4 years ago.

    Perry Groves touched on this concept on the Jim White show last week when talking about Duchatelet.

    Maybe this idea deserves it's own thread but they floated the idea of a yearly check up on clubs to monitor ownership and commitment to footballing success. They also mentioned owners making a deposit of, say, 10% of the purchase fee to the EFL/FA that they only get back when they meet certain criteria or sell the club.

    I've mentioned before the power the NFL has over owners and it's something our football could learn from. The owner of the Carolina Panthers was forced to sell the franchise this year after allegations of sexual misconduct.
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    Chizz said:

    JamesSeed said:

    Croydon said:

    JamesSeed said:

    Just a point of order.

    On the Bitsize thread it states: “Following an exchange with @JamesSeed Gerard Murphy from the Aussie Consortium warns of ‘a difficult two weeks ahead’, but also that ‘it’ll all be worthwhile’”

    What he actually said was slightly different:

    “There may be a couple of difficult weeks ahead but it will be all worth while when it is completed.” (When the sale is completed, not the two weeks).

    I know this ‘statement‘ caused anger when the sale didn’t happen two week after it was posted. Hopefully you’ll agree that the actual words used make it less date specific.

    In future I’ll keep messages like that to myself to avoid raising expectations unnecessarily.

    Could just relay them accurately?
    It’s only a tiny difference as @chizz has said, (but add ‘when it is completed’) but it could be interpreted slightly differently. My mistake.
    The "when it is completed" bit wasn't included when you posted it last month, though. You've added it today. I just think it's a bit unfair to @Henry Irving to criticise him for excluding something you hadn't actually posted until after Henry wrote his precis.

    In fact, I would go as far as to say that the meaning of the message you got is entirely different with the inclusion of the (previously omitted) wording. And, with that inclusion, it's an even stronger, more positive message.

    So, instead of the meaning being "the deal will be completed after the next two weeks, which will be difficult", it's "the deal will be completed at some stage, but the next two weeks will be difficult". One gives a deadline which, now that it's passed, means failure. The other provides some information to confirm the takeover is still progressing.

    So, in the light of this, do you know, or have you heard, or do you think the difficult two weeks were successfully completed? Or have you not had an indication yet?
    Yes I’ve just apologised for missing it out, and quoted the bite size thread because that’s where many people see it. Trust me, I never criticise Henry ;-)

    I don’t quite agree with your interpretations of the different versions though. The difference isn’t as great as you are suggesting I think?
    Neither could be interpreted as “the deal will be completed after the next two weeks, which will be difficult".
    I certainly don’t think either set a proper deadline for the sale as such.

    The two weeks are ancient history as far as my memory is concerned. I remember they weren’t a great two weeks though. My short term memory is a bit rubbish I’m afraid.

    It doesn’t really matter now as the club hasn’t been sold, and we still don’t really know why.
    This week I’m more worried that we’re not going to get the loan players in that we need. But we do know the reason for that. It’s because Roland is a total cnut. I’m sure the very last thing he wants is for us to be promoted after the sale. Feels like sabotage to me.
  • lolwray
    lolwray Posts: 4,900
    JamesSeed said:

    Dazzler21 said:

    Stop all the attacks on anything @JamesSeed posts please chaps or I'll have to get @crumbles to start dishing out bans.

    On the subject of Topics, I prefer Mars over those and (Marathon) Snickers bars.

    I do miss a good lion bar though.

    I can’t believe you numbskulls have forgotten the mighty, but long lamented, Aztec bar. Early seventies?
    It's little wonder it's an extinct civilisation now ..those Aztecs sure tasted good
  • Solidgone
    Solidgone Posts: 10,206
    lolwray said:

    JamesSeed said:

    Dazzler21 said:

    Stop all the attacks on anything @JamesSeed posts please chaps or I'll have to get @crumbles to start dishing out bans.

    On the subject of Topics, I prefer Mars over those and (Marathon) Snickers bars.

    I do miss a good lion bar though.

    I can’t believe you numbskulls have forgotten the mighty, but long lamented, Aztec bar. Early seventies?
    It's little wonder it's an extinct civilisation now ..those Aztecs sure tasted good
    Sounds like the start of a joke about the Inca, a conquistador and an Aztec walking into a lion bar...
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,990
    “ I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant”

    ― Alan Greenspan
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  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,021
    clive said:
    Nice reference to the Peasant's Revolt. Nice pics of @Henry Irving and @SE7toSG3 too.
  • _MrDick
    _MrDick Posts: 13,103
    Uboat said:

    Holy shit. I have just read the last 350+ comments. What a mess. The football season can't start soon enough.

    I’m sorry to be the bearer of bad news but the season started on 4 August. So far we have 4 points from 4 matches
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    JamesSeed said:

    Chizz said:

    JamesSeed said:

    Croydon said:

    JamesSeed said:

    Just a point of order.

    On the Bitsize thread it states: “Following an exchange with @JamesSeed Gerard Murphy from the Aussie Consortium warns of ‘a difficult two weeks ahead’, but also that ‘it’ll all be worthwhile’”

    What he actually said was slightly different:

    “There may be a couple of difficult weeks ahead but it will be all worth while when it is completed.” (When the sale is completed, not the two weeks).

    I know this ‘statement‘ caused anger when the sale didn’t happen two week after it was posted. Hopefully you’ll agree that the actual words used make it less date specific.

    In future I’ll keep messages like that to myself to avoid raising expectations unnecessarily.

    Could just relay them accurately?
    It’s only a tiny difference as @chizz has said, (but add ‘when it is completed’) but it could be interpreted slightly differently. My mistake.
    The "when it is completed" bit wasn't included when you posted it last month, though. You've added it today. I just think it's a bit unfair to @Henry Irving to criticise him for excluding something you hadn't actually posted until after Henry wrote his precis.

    In fact, I would go as far as to say that the meaning of the message you got is entirely different with the inclusion of the (previously omitted) wording. And, with that inclusion, it's an even stronger, more positive message.

    So, instead of the meaning being "the deal will be completed after the next two weeks, which will be difficult", it's "the deal will be completed at some stage, but the next two weeks will be difficult". One gives a deadline which, now that it's passed, means failure. The other provides some information to confirm the takeover is still progressing.

    So, in the light of this, do you know, or have you heard, or do you think the difficult two weeks were successfully completed? Or have you not had an indication yet?
    Yes I’ve just apologised for missing it out, and quoted the bite size thread because that’s where many people see it. Trust me, I never criticise Henry ;-)

    I don’t quite agree with your interpretations of the different versions though. The difference isn’t as great as you are suggesting I think?
    Neither could be interpreted as “the deal will be completed after the next two weeks, which will be difficult".
    I certainly don’t think either set a proper deadline for the sale as such.

    The two weeks are ancient history as far as my memory is concerned. I remember they weren’t a great two weeks though. My short term memory is a bit rubbish I’m afraid.

    It doesn’t really matter now as the club hasn’t been sold, and we still don’t really know why.
    This week I’m more worried that we’re not going to get the loan players in that we need. But we do know the reason for that. It’s because Roland is a total cnut. I’m sure the very last thing he wants is for us to be promoted after the sale. Feels like sabotage to me.
    Can we just move on from all this please.
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380

    JamesSeed said:

    Chizz said:

    JamesSeed said:

    Croydon said:

    JamesSeed said:

    Just a point of order.

    On the Bitsize thread it states: “Following an exchange with @JamesSeed Gerard Murphy from the Aussie Consortium warns of ‘a difficult two weeks ahead’, but also that ‘it’ll all be worthwhile’”

    What he actually said was slightly different:

    “There may be a couple of difficult weeks ahead but it will be all worth while when it is completed.” (When the sale is completed, not the two weeks).

    I know this ‘statement‘ caused anger when the sale didn’t happen two week after it was posted. Hopefully you’ll agree that the actual words used make it less date specific.

    In future I’ll keep messages like that to myself to avoid raising expectations unnecessarily.

    Could just relay them accurately?
    It’s only a tiny difference as @chizz has said, (but add ‘when it is completed’) but it could be interpreted slightly differently. My mistake.
    The "when it is completed" bit wasn't included when you posted it last month, though. You've added it today. I just think it's a bit unfair to @Henry Irving to criticise him for excluding something you hadn't actually posted until after Henry wrote his precis.

    In fact, I would go as far as to say that the meaning of the message you got is entirely different with the inclusion of the (previously omitted) wording. And, with that inclusion, it's an even stronger, more positive message.

    So, instead of the meaning being "the deal will be completed after the next two weeks, which will be difficult", it's "the deal will be completed at some stage, but the next two weeks will be difficult". One gives a deadline which, now that it's passed, means failure. The other provides some information to confirm the takeover is still progressing.

    So, in the light of this, do you know, or have you heard, or do you think the difficult two weeks were successfully completed? Or have you not had an indication yet?
    Yes I’ve just apologised for missing it out, and quoted the bite size thread because that’s where many people see it. Trust me, I never criticise Henry ;-)

    I don’t quite agree with your interpretations of the different versions though. The difference isn’t as great as you are suggesting I think?
    Neither could be interpreted as “the deal will be completed after the next two weeks, which will be difficult".
    I certainly don’t think either set a proper deadline for the sale as such.

    The two weeks are ancient history as far as my memory is concerned. I remember they weren’t a great two weeks though. My short term memory is a bit rubbish I’m afraid.

    It doesn’t really matter now as the club hasn’t been sold, and we still don’t really know why.
    This week I’m more worried that we’re not going to get the loan players in that we need. But we do know the reason for that. It’s because Roland is a total cnut. I’m sure the very last thing he wants is for us to be promoted after the sale. Feels like sabotage to me.
    Can we just move on from all this please.
    This
  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 50,974
    _MrDick said:

    Uboat said:

    Holy shit. I have just read the last 350+ comments. What a mess. The football season can't start soon enough.

    I’m sorry to be the bearer of bad news but the season started on 4 August. So far we have 4 points from 4 matches
    5 points from 5 matches
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,034
    _MrDick said:

    Uboat said:

    Holy shit. I have just read the last 350+ comments. What a mess. The football season can't start soon enough.

    I’m sorry to be the bearer of bad news but the season started on 4 August. So far we have 4 points from 4 matches
    In the words of Roland - “huh”?

    5 in 5 I think you’ll find!
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,651
    Found out a bit about the mysterious 'third consortium' but don't really understand it.

    Maybe someone can clarify:

    Apparently a Mr Zager and a Mr Evans are involved and the completion date is 2525.
  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 50,974
    LenGlover said:

    Found out a bit about the mysterious 'third consortium' but don't really understand it.

    Maybe someone can clarify:

    Apparently a Mr Zager and a Mr Evans are involved and the completion date is 2525.

    Is that the year are the page this thread will reach? :wink:
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    Stig said:
    'Kin hell, they must have done some work on those then.

    @SE7toSG3 looks like a bull dog chewing a wasp and @Henry Irving looks like a 1970's gay porn fluffer
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,219
    Addickted said:

    Stig said:
    'Kin hell, they must have done some work on those then.

    @Henry Irving looks like a 1970's gay porn fluffer
    Takes one to know one
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