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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)

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  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,220
    April 2017 so 18 months now.

    But while they haven't closed a deal neither has any other group.

    If the EFL is to be believed no one else has even got to the fit and proper stage.

    So while we can moan about the Aussies they have never had exclusivity so what has, and still is, stopping all these other groups closing a deal?
  • Fumbluff
    Fumbluff Posts: 10,126

    I've had it up to here with the alleged Aussie take-over, which must be celebrating its first birthday soon. Jarndyce and Jarndyce all over again.

    Womack & Womack
  • iamdan
    iamdan Posts: 2,421
    2 more weeks.
  • ozaddick
    ozaddick Posts: 2,844
    masicat said:

    Never mentioned this before. I felt it was stirring the pot and wouldn’t help. I was at a wedding in Portugal on May 31st. Met an Aussie who was an ‘associate’ of Muir , but not a friend or close friend. I told him about the sale, and the fact it was about to happen. He had never heard of Charlton, but after discussing with me for 10 minutes he assured me the deal would never come off. No real specific reason. He just said a 3rd tier English club would never be of interest and he was adamant Muir would either pull out or it was fake news. Don’t know if he was right through knowledge, or just a lucky guess. I will say, he was adamant.

    He might not know much about football but he could write a decent song!
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    edited October 2018
    masicat said:

    Never mentioned this before. I felt it was stirring the pot and wouldn’t help. I was at a wedding in Portugal on May 31st. Met an Aussie who was an ‘associate’ of Muir , but not a friend or close friend. I told him about the sale, and the fact it was about to happen. He had never heard of Charlton, but after discussing with me for 10 minutes he assured me the deal would never come off. No real specific reason. He just said a 3rd tier English club would never be of interest and he was adamant Muir would either pull out or it was fake news. Don’t know if he was right through knowledge, or just a lucky guess. I will say, he was adamant.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9p__WmyAE3g
  • April 2017 so 18 months now.

    But while they haven't closed a deal neither has any other group.

    If the EFL is to be believed no one else has even got to the fit and proper stage.

    So while we can moan about the Aussies they have never had exclusivity so what has, and still is, stopping all these other groups closing a deal?
    Money Money Money
  • addick05
    addick05 Posts: 2,348

    We still need some clarity to Airman’s revelation that Muir has denied involvement in an interview with the Australian press. Personally I’m convinced it will never happen. Something was never right with it. Gone on far too long for anything to come of it now. As for five parties in the frame. What a load of bull.

    So as far as a takeover is concerned we might as well all leave the office and turn out the lights then? Plus close this thread? Just asking.
  • andynelson
    andynelson Posts: 1,951
    Roland hasn't sold any of his clubs, after announcing he wanted to sell them all. Or have I missed something? Mind you, he did have his fingers crossed when he made the announcement.
  • masicat said:

    Never mentioned this before. I felt it was stirring the pot and wouldn’t help. I was at a wedding in Portugal on May 31st. Met an Aussie who was an ‘associate’ of Muir , but not a friend or close friend. I told him about the sale, and the fact it was about to happen. He had never heard of Charlton, but after discussing with me for 10 minutes he assured me the deal would never come off. No real specific reason. He just said a 3rd tier English club would never be of interest and he was adamant Muir would either pull out or it was fake news. Don’t know if he was right through knowledge, or just a lucky guess. I will say, he was adamant.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9p__WmyAE3g
    I'm the dandy addick
    And I'm tired of excuses
    Of prevaricating consortia
    Where only Charlton loses
    I'm the dandy addick
    And here's my invitation
    Put your money where your mouth is
    And join our addick nation

    Stand and deliver your money or your life
  • cafcwill
    cafcwill Posts: 1,286
    Mid way on the 2nd page
    Unacceptable behaviour
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  • TelMc32 said:

    Meanwhile, the Melexis share price, which hit an all-time high of 92.20 euros in the summer, is now 52.80 euros, a loss of nearly 43% to that part of RD's fortune in 4 months. Makes you feel sad for the old scrote, doesn't it?

    I think we should have a whip round.

    Straw clutching but maybe this might the old git rethink his asking price.
    Sorry to rain on this one. Melexis paid out a €1.30 dividend yesterday. From memory, Duchatelet owns Xtrion NV, which has 53.58% of Melexis (21,644,399 shares).

    He therefore received €28,137,718.70 into his grubby little paws yesterday. I think we can hold off on the whip round!!!
    Rich Bastard!
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,624
    edited October 2018

    April 2017 so 18 months now.

    But while they haven't closed a deal neither has any other group.

    If the EFL is to be believed no one else has even got to the fit and proper stage.

    So while we can moan about the Aussies they have never had exclusivity so what has, and still is, stopping all these other groups closing a deal?
    the price. we aint worth £40m or anywhere near it. Halve the figure & you're getting close.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,220

    April 2017 so 18 months now.

    But while they haven't closed a deal neither has any other group.

    If the EFL is to be believed no one else has even got to the fit and proper stage.

    So while we can moan about the Aussies they have never had exclusivity so what has, and still is, stopping all these other groups closing a deal?
    the price. we aint worth £40m or anywhere near it. Halve the figure & you're getting close.
    Exactly my point.

    The Aussies aren't setting the price, Duchatelet is.

    So the block on the deal going through is Duchatelet and no one else.
  • Solidgone
    Solidgone Posts: 10,206

    April 2017 so 18 months now.

    But while they haven't closed a deal neither has any other group.

    If the EFL is to be believed no one else has even got to the fit and proper stage.

    So while we can moan about the Aussies they have never had exclusivity so what has, and still is, stopping all these other groups closing a deal?
    the price. we aint worth £40m or anywhere near it. Halve the figure & you're getting close.
    Exactly my point.

    The Aussies aren't setting the price, Duchatelet is.

    So the block on the deal going through is Duchatelet and no one else.
    Or...the price has been agreed and the Aussie consortium has fallen apart and can’t get the dosh together...
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,331
    Solidgone said:

    April 2017 so 18 months now.

    But while they haven't closed a deal neither has any other group.

    If the EFL is to be believed no one else has even got to the fit and proper stage.

    So while we can moan about the Aussies they have never had exclusivity so what has, and still is, stopping all these other groups closing a deal?
    the price. we aint worth £40m or anywhere near it. Halve the figure & you're getting close.
    Exactly my point.

    The Aussies aren't setting the price, Duchatelet is.

    So the block on the deal going through is Duchatelet and no one else.
    Or...the price has been agreed and the Aussie consortium has fallen apart and can’t get the dosh together...
    Or... the parties agreed what the price was, without the Aussies agreeing to pay that price. And Duchatalet has refused to reduce the price to an acceptable level.
  • SuedeAdidas
    SuedeAdidas Posts: 7,740
    It's exactly the same where you and the missus have had an offer accepted on a house and you have had a joint mortgage agreed - only for you to find that she has shagged your dad and you can no longer buy the house together.

    You go on tinder hoping to find someone to get a new joint mortgage with - but you're not getting any younger.....

    You try and use a bit of damp on the survey to try and reduce the price to something more affordable....but to no avail - the homeowner is a proper stubborn twat.

    You sign up on plenty o fish.......but you're still waiting for a nibble.

  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,220
    Solidgone said:

    April 2017 so 18 months now.

    But while they haven't closed a deal neither has any other group.

    If the EFL is to be believed no one else has even got to the fit and proper stage.

    So while we can moan about the Aussies they have never had exclusivity so what has, and still is, stopping all these other groups closing a deal?
    the price. we aint worth £40m or anywhere near it. Halve the figure & you're getting close.
    Exactly my point.

    The Aussies aren't setting the price, Duchatelet is.

    So the block on the deal going through is Duchatelet and no one else.
    Or...the price has been agreed and the Aussie consortium has fallen apart and can’t get the dosh together...
    Quite possible but if so what is stopping all the other interested parties that have been on the scene for months and not closed a deal?

    Why did others walk away saying the price was too high?
  • Fumbluff
    Fumbluff Posts: 10,126
    So in house analogies, I’ve agreed the price/“accepted the offer” from an enthusiastic first time buyer.
    As they didn’t have their mortgage agreed I’d caveated my acceptance of their offer by not taking the house off the market.
    The estate agent has managed to get a couple more viewings but nobody has wanted to match the agreed price let along gazump these first time buyers.
    I start to get a bit moody after 6-months or so and then really moody after a year, I send some proper sarky emails to the estate agent who gets a couple more viewings, none serious - one of whom takes pictures inside my shoe repair cupboard and posts them on instamatic. I instruct my agent to not answer the phone to that character anymore.
    Still my buyer(s) cannot convince the bank to give them the money, the agent advises that I should reduce the price to attract a fresh bid but I discuss this with my only friend Lionel van Box and we decide we want to hang on for the asking price even though we’ve spent about 1/4 of the asking price since we first listed it on council tax, electricity, water and the pesky boiler that doesn’t seem to be quite as connected as I’d hoped for. Still at least I’ve cancelled that domestic help so I’m not having to pay her anymore.
    Watch the pennies and all that?
  • Solidgone
    Solidgone Posts: 10,206

    Solidgone said:

    April 2017 so 18 months now.

    But while they haven't closed a deal neither has any other group.

    If the EFL is to be believed no one else has even got to the fit and proper stage.

    So while we can moan about the Aussies they have never had exclusivity so what has, and still is, stopping all these other groups closing a deal?
    the price. we aint worth £40m or anywhere near it. Halve the figure & you're getting close.
    Exactly my point.

    The Aussies aren't setting the price, Duchatelet is.

    So the block on the deal going through is Duchatelet and no one else.
    Or...the price has been agreed and the Aussie consortium has fallen apart and can’t get the dosh together...
    Quite possible but if so what is stopping all the other interested parties that have been on the scene for months and not closed a deal?

    Why did others walk away saying the price was too high?
    Because the Aussies alledgedly agreed the price which we assume was £40m but some members of the consortium thought fuck that - that means my share of the cost is £xm and I’ll have to weigh out another £xm over the next 5 years with no return...you must be b-b-bonkers...I’m out! But then added...unless you can halve the cost then might have a rethink. As Fagin sang... I’ll be reviewing, the situation...Hence the stalemate.

    Now how’s that for a load of bollock? :neutral:
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,220
    Solidgone said:

    Solidgone said:

    April 2017 so 18 months now.

    But while they haven't closed a deal neither has any other group.

    If the EFL is to be believed no one else has even got to the fit and proper stage.

    So while we can moan about the Aussies they have never had exclusivity so what has, and still is, stopping all these other groups closing a deal?
    the price. we aint worth £40m or anywhere near it. Halve the figure & you're getting close.
    Exactly my point.

    The Aussies aren't setting the price, Duchatelet is.

    So the block on the deal going through is Duchatelet and no one else.
    Or...the price has been agreed and the Aussie consortium has fallen apart and can’t get the dosh together...
    Quite possible but if so what is stopping all the other interested parties that have been on the scene for months and not closed a deal?

    Why did others walk away saying the price was too high?
    Because the Aussies alledgedly agreed the price which we assume was £40m but some members of the consortium thought fuck that - that means my share of the cost is £xm and I’ll have to weigh out another £xm over the next 5 years with no return...you must be b-b-bonkers...I’m out! But then added...unless you can halve the cost then might have a rethink. As Fagin sang... I’ll be reviewing, the situation...Hence the stalemate.

    Now how’s that for a load of bollock? :neutral:
    That explains the Aussies, maybe.

    It doesn't explain all the other bidders not closing a deal.
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  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,458
    edited October 2018
    Solidgone said:

    Solidgone said:

    April 2017 so 18 months now.

    But while they haven't closed a deal neither has any other group.

    If the EFL is to be believed no one else has even got to the fit and proper stage.

    So while we can moan about the Aussies they have never had exclusivity so what has, and still is, stopping all these other groups closing a deal?
    the price. we aint worth £40m or anywhere near it. Halve the figure & you're getting close.
    Exactly my point.

    The Aussies aren't setting the price, Duchatelet is.

    So the block on the deal going through is Duchatelet and no one else.
    Or...the price has been agreed and the Aussie consortium has fallen apart and can’t get the dosh together...
    Quite possible but if so what is stopping all the other interested parties that have been on the scene for months and not closed a deal?

    Why did others walk away saying the price was too high?
    Because the Aussies alledgedly agreed the price which we assume was £40m but some members of the consortium thought fuck that - that means my share of the cost is £xm and I’ll have to weigh out another £xm over the next 5 years with no return...you must be b-b-bonkers...I’m out! But then added...unless you can halve the cost then might have a rethink. As Fagin sang... I’ll be reviewing, the situation...Hence the stalemate.

    Now how’s that for a load of bollock? :neutral:
    Proving funds to Roland compared to proving funds to the EFL are on completely different pages. Roland isn't known for his groundwork and research hence why he ended up in this mess.
  • Solidgone
    Solidgone Posts: 10,206

    Solidgone said:

    Solidgone said:

    April 2017 so 18 months now.

    But while they haven't closed a deal neither has any other group.

    If the EFL is to be believed no one else has even got to the fit and proper stage.

    So while we can moan about the Aussies they have never had exclusivity so what has, and still is, stopping all these other groups closing a deal?
    the price. we aint worth £40m or anywhere near it. Halve the figure & you're getting close.
    Exactly my point.

    The Aussies aren't setting the price, Duchatelet is.

    So the block on the deal going through is Duchatelet and no one else.
    Or...the price has been agreed and the Aussie consortium has fallen apart and can’t get the dosh together...
    Quite possible but if so what is stopping all the other interested parties that have been on the scene for months and not closed a deal?

    Why did others walk away saying the price was too high?
    Because the Aussies alledgedly agreed the price which we assume was £40m but some members of the consortium thought fuck that - that means my share of the cost is £xm and I’ll have to weigh out another £xm over the next 5 years with no return...you must be b-b-bonkers...I’m out! But then added...unless you can halve the cost then might have a rethink. As Fagin sang... I’ll be reviewing, the situation...Hence the stalemate.

    Now how’s that for a load of bollock? :neutral:
    That explains the Aussies, maybe.

    It doesn't explain all the other bidders not closing a deal.
    They won’t pay the £40m either. It’s a waiting game until he lowers the price. Then the seagulls (not Brighton) will be seen following the trawlers, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Eric Cantona circa 1995
  • razil
    razil Posts: 15,041
    edited October 2018
    All my encounters with LdT at the FF suggest they are not desperate for a sale, which given the losses is puzzling.

    This can only be due to a number of reasons possibly in combination

    * any other 'offers' if there have been any are way short of the one that reached the EFL stage
    * Duchatelet is determined to achieve close to his valuation of the club possibly with some brinkmanship
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,734
    razil said:

    All my encounters with LdT at the FF suggest they are not desperate for a sale, which given the losses is puzzling.

    This can only be due to a number of reasons possibly in combination

    * any other 'offers' if there have been any are way short of the one that reached the EFL stage
    * Duchatelet is determined to achieve close to his valuation of the club possibly with some brinkmanship

    The same LDT who says that a price is agreed with a second group.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,220

    razil said:

    All my encounters with LdT at the FF suggest they are not desperate for a sale, which given the losses is puzzling.

    This can only be due to a number of reasons possibly in combination

    * any other 'offers' if there have been any are way short of the one that reached the EFL stage
    * Duchatelet is determined to achieve close to his valuation of the club possibly with some brinkmanship

    The same LDT who says that a price is agreed with a second group.
    It's almost as if LDT isn't being 100% honest with the fans' forum, hard as that is to believe.
  • HarryLime
    HarryLime Posts: 1,295

    razil said:

    All my encounters with LdT at the FF suggest they are not desperate for a sale, which given the losses is puzzling.

    This can only be due to a number of reasons possibly in combination

    * any other 'offers' if there have been any are way short of the one that reached the EFL stage
    * Duchatelet is determined to achieve close to his valuation of the club possibly with some brinkmanship

    The same LDT who says that a price is agreed with a second group.
    It's almost as if LDT isn't being 100% honest with the fans' forum, hard as that is to believe.
    It's probably a failure to communicate issue.
  • razil
    razil Posts: 15,041

    razil said:

    All my encounters with LdT at the FF suggest they are not desperate for a sale, which given the losses is puzzling.

    This can only be due to a number of reasons possibly in combination

    * any other 'offers' if there have been any are way short of the one that reached the EFL stage
    * Duchatelet is determined to achieve close to his valuation of the club possibly with some brinkmanship

    The same LDT who says that a price is agreed with a second group.
  • andynelson
    andynelson Posts: 1,951
    If Roland still believes that the Aussies are going to pay his asking price he's in a minority of two.
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    Toogood Posts: 73
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