The rise of the vegans.

i_b_b_o_r_g said:

SuedeAdidas said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46042314

Comparable to Morrissey saying that people who "believe" in abatoirs, must also believe in the Nazi gas chambers and that eating meat is no different to pedophilia. Okay Morrissey wasn't answerable to managers in the same was this bloke is, but still a despicable thing to say

Yes but Morrissey was, is, and always will be a twat!

I think it's sad that the chap had to lose his job. It's sad where we live in a time where even in private discussions people are currently trying to trip you up and expose you.

I saw someone say "what if this had been said about any other group of people" which is such an assanine comment. Various other groups of people have been persecuted throughout history, the worst thing that's been said to a vegan is to please stop boring me about bean curds.

Funnily enough, I have been compared to a vegan for the holier than though attitude and constant droning on, as a cyclist. Cyclists have also had various things said about them, that can actually wind up the car drivers they share a road with. A car driver that dislikes cyclists because they get in the way on the road and read some idiotic article in a paper or on the radio is more dangerous than someone reading a comment (which would never have been read as it wasn't meant to be published) about vegans.

And do I think people should be hunted down and sacked for saying mean things about cyclists? No.

It just promotes the snowflake stereotype of these people. Get a grip, these witch hunts ruins people's lives, and only go to promote the careers of the people who start it. They're not doing it out if some genuine moral crusade, they're doing it to increase clicks to their shitty blogs.

seth plum said:

I can't resist responding to the comment about Vegan hypocrisy above.
Millions upon millions of Christians eat meat and fish, yet one of their 10 Commandments is 'Thou shalt not kill'.
In terms of raw numbers it dwarves Vegan hypocrisy.
(This information is useful for dealing with pesky Jehovah Witnesses when they come knocking).

MuttleyCAFC said:

seth plum said:

Big_Bad_World said:

seth plum said:

MuttleyCAFC said:

seth plum said:

MuttleyCAFC said:

seth plum said:

I can't resist responding to the comment about Vegan hypocrisy above.
Millions upon millions of Christians eat meat and fish, yet one of their 10 Commandments is 'Thou shalt not kill'.
In terms of raw numbers it dwarves Vegan hypocrisy.
(This information is useful for dealing with pesky Jehovah Witnesses when they come knocking).

I think it refers to killing humans Seth. I can understand people having the position somebody like Morrissey has. It is because he sees no difference to an animal which has emotions and feeling to a human. I don't view it in quite the same way. Although I love my dog as if he was a human! I think we are simply animals obeying natures laws- we are meat eaters as are dogs, lions, etc... But if you saw it his way, it would be natural to have strong emotions and reactions.

I agree there is a difference between animals and humans.
The Commandment doesn't make that distinction explicitly.

No but there is reference to killing animals throughout the bible. Even Jesus helped catch fish!

I suppose Jesus gets a free pass for his personal fish catching because his dad created them. Maybe thou shalt not kill was an instruction from dad for everybody that wasn't his son.

Therefore he created them himself. Bend your head around that one.

Not my job, that's down to the Jehovah Witnesses who call round.

What gets rid of them quickly is to politely tell them 'Very sorry, we worship the Lord Lucifer Satan in this house'. They love it when you get into a philosophical discussion with them.

Telling them that you are a Roman Catholic works equally well. I’m not sure what that’s says.

i_b_b_o_r_g said:

I'm usually polite to Jehovah Witness's when they come round, as I am to any stranger who knocks on my front door. The stories of people slamming the front door in there face or telling em to fuck off do make me chuckle.

My mate moonied at a couple of nuns once.

Alwaysneil said:

Get many witnesses in Framce?

I’ll always listen to the intro but mostly will say then sorry not interested, unless really bored

Same bloke walks up our drive about twice a year roughly. I had a good chat with him about the fact that I'd had a new kidney and that he probably wouldn't agree with and he then explained that it weren't organ transplantation they were opposed to, it's blood transfusion. So just talking to the bloke, I learnt summin.

Anyone is made welcome at my door, Jehovah's, vegans, anyone except @cafcdave123

Alwaysneil said:

Did he explain why? I sort of understand veganism without agreeing with all of it. Don’t really understand why donor organs ok, donor blood not ok.

Summin to do with blood being the soul of a person I think, from memory

DaveMehmet said:

i_b_b_o_r_g said:

Alwaysneil said:

Did he explain why? I sort of understand veganism without agreeing with all of it. Don’t really understand why donor organs ok, donor blood not ok.

Summin to do with blood being the soul of a person I think, from memory

I used to work with a girl who believed that having her photo taken took away part of her soul. Daft bint.

Did she have nice tits?

Sounds like a cheap shag mate

@i_b_b_o_r_g @DaveMehmet - keep it to tofu talk thanks chaps

Ooh, I’d never eat a game bird.

cafcdave123 said:

i_b_b_o_r_g said:

Alwaysneil said:

Get many witnesses in Framce?

I’ll always listen to the intro but mostly will say then sorry not interested, unless really bored

Same bloke walks up our drive about twice a year roughly. I had a good chat with him about the fact that I'd had a new kidney and that he probably wouldn't agree with and he then explained that it weren't organ transplantation they were opposed to, it's blood transfusion. So just talking to the bloke, I learnt summin.

Anyone is made welcome at my door, Jehovah's, vegans, anyone except @cafcdave123

racist.

You're due a visit cupcake

Anna_Kissed said:

An industry increasingly rejected by both consumer and worker.
The times, they are a-changing.

The Guardian 19 Nov 2018

There’s a Christmas crisis going on: no one wants to kill your dinner

Christmas is coming and the goose is getting fat. But this year, there might not be anyone to kill her. As British families start to plan their festive dinners of turkey and pigs in blankets, there is a crisis in the meat industry.

A report in the trade magazine Farmers Weekly has revealed that staff shortages at slaughterhouses are threatening Christmas sales. Some 10,000 positions are unfilled at major abattoirs, meaning supermarkets will “seriously struggle” to fulfil their seasonal orders. Of course some of that shortfall is because of Brexit; crucially, however, the report explains that for most potential applicants, the industry’s low pay is not the problem but that “people simply do not want to do this work any more”.

https://theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/nov/19/christmas-crisis-kill-dinner-work-abattoir-industry-psychological-physical-damage

Yeah I’m sure the low pay has nothing to do with it.

Anna_Kissed said:

Sodium is an important mineral, but too much of it in one's diet can be damaging, @charltonJ
Sodium can be found in Artichokes, Celeriac, Turnips, Celery, Chard, Sweet potatoes and Spinach.

Bacon sandwiches too chaps. Lovely amount in those.