The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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It would have been a safe assumption. To be clear, I don't think anything was posted in bad faith, just perhaps a little too much trust was placed in a 'friend'Chizz said:
I would also guess he means that. But I don't want to assume.blackpool72 said:
My guess someone who no longer posts on here.Chizz said:
Stu has said someone (or some people) have been "played". I'm interested to know who.Redhenry said:
I'm not sure what you are trying to achieve here @Chizz?Chizz said:
Who do you think got "played"?Stu_of_Kunming said:No, I don't believe they have, byt different people do their business in different ways, I have no reason to doubt Redhenry.
I don't think it's ever been claimed The saudies got to the efl stage.
Of course, he could have been played like some others have been, it's possible, believing that is a personal choice I suppose, for me, Redhenrys track record is good enough for me to believe him, same goes for NLA too.2 -
I am your father.SoundAsa£ said:
I am confused.SuedeAdidas said:I am Spartacus
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I am the Walrus.6
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Stu.....like 99% of the posts in this thread it’s all supposition.....maybe some day the truth regarding JS and his ‘consortium contact’ will be known, along with all the lies and windups that have been served up too.......someone could write a book.Stu_of_Kunming said:
It would have been a safe assumption. To be clear, I don't think anything was posted in bad faith, just perhaps a little too much trust was placed in a 'friend'Chizz said:
I would also guess he means that. But I don't want to assume.blackpool72 said:
My guess someone who no longer posts on here.Chizz said:
Stu has said someone (or some people) have been "played". I'm interested to know who.Redhenry said:
I'm not sure what you are trying to achieve here @Chizz?Chizz said:
Who do you think got "played"?Stu_of_Kunming said:No, I don't believe they have, byt different people do their business in different ways, I have no reason to doubt Redhenry.
I don't think it's ever been claimed The saudies got to the efl stage.
Of course, he could have been played like some others have been, it's possible, believing that is a personal choice I suppose, for me, Redhenrys track record is good enough for me to believe him, same goes for NLA too.
There are so many twists and turns with literally thousands of opinions and guesses that ‘yer ead urts’......with respect yours, along with a few of my own I have to say, will remain just that.....another opinion.
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Goo goo g'joob3
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Well, duh.SoundAsa£ said:
Stu.....like 99% of the posts in this thread it’s all supposition.....maybe some day the truth regarding JS and his ‘consortium contact’ will be known, along with all the lies and windups that have been served up too.......someone could write a book.Stu_of_Kunming said:
It would have been a safe assumption. To be clear, I don't think anything was posted in bad faith, just perhaps a little too much trust was placed in a 'friend'Chizz said:
I would also guess he means that. But I don't want to assume.blackpool72 said:
My guess someone who no longer posts on here.Chizz said:
Stu has said someone (or some people) have been "played". I'm interested to know who.Redhenry said:
I'm not sure what you are trying to achieve here @Chizz?Chizz said:
Who do you think got "played"?Stu_of_Kunming said:No, I don't believe they have, byt different people do their business in different ways, I have no reason to doubt Redhenry.
I don't think it's ever been claimed The saudies got to the efl stage.
Of course, he could have been played like some others have been, it's possible, believing that is a personal choice I suppose, for me, Redhenrys track record is good enough for me to believe him, same goes for NLA too.
There are so many twists and turns with literally thousands of opinions and guesses that ‘yer ead urts’......with respect yours, along with a few of my own I have to say, will remain just that.....another opinion.0 -
I'm saveloy!!SuedeAdidas said:I am Spartacus
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If you keep saying, 'Nothing is happening' you will keep being right, until something does happen, at which point there'll be so much excitement no-one will care.
My sources tell me that nothing is happening and neither they nor me have ever been wrong.15 -
Championship Wigan sold to a HK based company for £22M. Based on last couple of years' accounts, it looks like Wigan AFC costs about £2M per month to run.
Just the difference in league status, must mean that roly's toxic pantomime (FKA Charlton Athletic) can't be worth anything like his mooted £25M. Half? At best? Shoots a massive hole in his drivel about running costs as a barrier to sale. Wibble.
roly you're a preposterous, deluded/dishonest (select based on your personal grievance), manbaby, who might imagine a price for everything but knows the value of precisely fuck all, just relinquish control of the club to whomsoever offers you any folding €uros and fuck off out of our lives for ever. Everybody wins.
All that guff about you caring to whom you transfer the club is the sleaziest lie you've told us - and there's loads to choose from.21 -
Sorry just read this, I meant Varney!Redhenry said:
Murray was the Saudis first choice, they thought this would get the fans on sideAirman Brown said:Why I am sceptical about the Saudis - or at least about the extent of any such interest - is threefold. Firstly, Duchatelet was, from the outset, sceptical that the Australians had the money (he is on record saying this back in 2017) and the long-running nature of their approach would be enough to raise significant doubts anyway. In that context, it is very hard to believe that he would bat away a genuine well-resourced approach from the Middle East in favour of the Aussies unless there was a very substantial difference in any offer.
Secondly, Redhenry and others linked the Bristol Rovers chairman Steve Hamer to the Saudis - Hamer is a big red flag as far as some who have dealt with him before concerning Charlton are concerned. I'm told that when he approached the club previously (about ten years ago) the person he was purportedly representing turned out to be in prison at the time.
Thirdly, while we've heard repeatedly from Murray, LDT and Duchatelet about the supposed British interest that they say agreed a price back in February, we have never heard from any of them about Saudis - or a group that could be them - at any point.
I'm not saying that what has been brought here has been reported in anything other than good faith, just that I don't think the evidence suggests that they were as close to buying the club as has been claimed.7 - Sponsored links:
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Don't shoot the messenger, i was told that RD is still asking 50m plus for the club. He now thinks he can get 70/75 mill if we are in the Champ and is going to spend in Jan to get us promoted!31 -
His delusion seems to know no bounds...if (big if) we get promoted then he might get £40m (IMO) as we'll be one step close to the promised land and income will be increased. But £70m+ for a Championship club....don't think so.Henry Irving said:From another thread
Redhenry
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Don't shoot the messenger, i was told that RD is still asking 50m plus for the club. He now thinks he can get 70/75 mill if we are in the Champ and is going to spend in Jan to get us promoted!
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Surely if we spend in January then we'll go over FFP as isnt that why we were forced to sell Konsa?1
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Was Konsa in this current financial year or the last?ForeverAddickted said:Surely if we spend in January then we'll go over FFP as isnt that why we were forced to sell Konsa?
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Pretty much all our signings are free transfers and loans.ForeverAddickted said:Surely if we spend in January then we'll go over FFP as isnt that why we were forced to sell Konsa?
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Ajose | Holmes | Pearce | Magennis | Forster-Caskey | Page | Clarke | Fosu have all required feesblackpool72 said:
Pretty much all our signings are free transfers and loans.ForeverAddickted said:Surely if we spend in January then we'll go over FFP as isnt that why we were forced to sell Konsa?
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Quite often you have to pay a fee to secure a loan too. Plus, of course, all or some of their wages.ForeverAddickted said:
Ajose | Holmes | Pearce | Magennis | Forster-Caskey | Page | Clarke | Fosu have all required feesblackpool72 said:
Pretty much all our signings are free transfers and loans.ForeverAddickted said:Surely if we spend in January then we'll go over FFP as isnt that why we were forced to sell Konsa?
How often do we actually pay a fee for someone ?
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I'd imagine we've had to do that for Bielik and especially Cullen seeing where they've come fromcafc-west said:
Quite often you have to pay a fee to secure a loan too. Plus, of course, all or some of their wages.ForeverAddickted said:
Ajose | Holmes | Pearce | Magennis | Forster-Caskey | Page | Clarke | Fosu have all required feesblackpool72 said:
Pretty much all our signings are free transfers and loans.ForeverAddickted said:Surely if we spend in January then we'll go over FFP as isnt that why we were forced to sell Konsa?
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Agreed.ForeverAddickted said:
Ajose | Holmes | Pearce | Magennis | Forster-Caskey | Page | Clarke | Fosu have all required feesblackpool72 said:
Pretty much all our signings are free transfers and loans.ForeverAddickted said:Surely if we spend in January then we'll go over FFP as isnt that why we were forced to sell Konsa?
How often do we actually pay a fee for someone ?
But Holmes and Magennis have both been sold.
How many of the others were paid for on the last financial year.0 -
If we get promoted we are back in the position we were when he bought us, where does the additional millions of value come from? must be the new Vista lounge and the trenches at the training ground.7
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Goodness me he is unbelievably delusional. 70/75mil for us as a Championship club, madness. I mean, Cellino sold Leeds for £45mil with an additional £8.5mil over the next 8 years. So how can we be worth £20mil more than Leeds in the Championship?!Henry Irving said:From another thread
Redhenry
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Don't shoot the messenger, i was told that RD is still asking 50m plus for the club. He now thinks he can get 70/75 mill if we are in the Champ and is going to spend in Jan to get us promoted!
If he does spend in January to get in additional players to be promoted, that’s great but really it’ll be “you can have 20% of any money brought in from selling Aribo, Fosu, Grant etc” that is much more RD.2 -
The sale was in 2017/18 - it had to be to make the FFP criteria for L1. They also had to have the money up front for it to count in that calculation, which is why there was a discount for cash.Henry Irving said:
Was Konsa in this current financial year or the last?ForeverAddickted said:Surely if we spend in January then we'll go over FFP as isnt that why we were forced to sell Konsa?
It smells as if they only realised this late on - having no finance director - or were prepared to leave that as a problem for the Aussies, whom they had assumed would have taken over by then.
There is a figure rolling around of £58m for the club at present. It sounds as if Redhenry has heard it too, but to be honest it might as well be £500m for all the chance he has of getting it. Duchatelet has given lower figures previously though.
A London club with a modern stadium will always be worth more than Wigan, other things being equal, not least because of the land prices.3 -
If (and a big if) he now plans to "spend" to get in the championship, in order to get a higher figure, to the sums add up? Extra wages and fees (which I'm under no delusion will be significant), plus more significantly bankrolling the monthly losses until at least May (and we all know how long these things drag out). He just needs to cut his losses now and stop being so stubborn.0
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He’s rich enough to be able to hold his ground. The reality is that he doesn’t need to sell and despite his quoting that he wants out there is nothing in his actions to really support the view other than the club being on the market. Had it been a genuine attempt to sell and at a realistic price then it would have I think been sold by now. His price and intransigence is totally off this planet so to all intents and purposes he’s not intent on selling.
I didn’t until very recently think he was not selling to make a point to fans and others that he was right all along but the latest comments that he’s now thinking he can get us promoted and sell for even more prove to me that that’s exactly what he’s doing.
He wants out but only strictly on his and his alone terms.1 -
Who on earth is advising the senile old scrote? What is he basing such a ridiculous figure on? I thought he said he wanted out and that the price was not important? Even more confused now.3
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He's the gift that just keeps on giving isn't he ?0
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sigh.0
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No, he's the shit that keeps on shitting.Horsfield9 said:He's the gift that just keeps on giving isn't he ?
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http://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/83743/food-poisoning-cryptosporidiosis#latestChizz said:
No, he's the shit that keeps on shitting.Horsfield9 said:He's the gift that just keeps on giving isn't he ?
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Maybe Bowyer will become the best since Curbs, I like what I've seen, but hard to make a case he's better than Powell or even Parkinson so far.Showmetheway2gohome said:I think if he did back bowyer in January transfer window we will go up bowyers best manager we’ve had since curbs.
And let's be honest, Lee is no Karel Fraeye.11
