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Bielik - is he staying?
lordromford
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Haven't seen this posted elsewhere, but during the post match interview, Bielik was asked how he felt - he mentioned the camaraderie and described the Charlton team as “family”. Then immediately said “I can’t wait for next season”.
That doesn’t sound like he’s going anywhere.
Is it possible we have an agreement with Arsenal to keep him for another year?
That doesn’t sound like he’s going anywhere.
Is it possible we have an agreement with Arsenal to keep him for another year?
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Would be amazing if he stayed!4
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Think it would be beneficial to his progress to stay here, same with Cullen
Neither will play First-Team football next season and think another loan will aid their progress much more than sitting on the bench with a few cameo appearances every now and again
That loan of course either being to a Championship club or if the parent club think they've done well enough, to a Premier League club...
after all the year they've had makes it clear that they're now too good for League One6 -
Both are still young enough where a year in The Championship will be ideal for them and with us then no bedding in at a new club would be required either.6
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Got a good relationship with arsenal so don't see why not now we're up.0
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Agree with that about both Christian and Josh. They’ve done well and their clubs will look at getting them tested at a higher level. Now we’re at that higher level it would make sense for them to stay with a club they know... assuming Lee and JJ are still aroundForeverAddickted said:Think it would be beneficial to his progress to stay here, same with Cullen
Neither will play First-Team football next season and think another loan will aid their progress much more than sitting on the bench with a few cameo appearances every now and again
That loan of course either being to a Championship club or if the parent club think they've done well enough, to a Premier League club...
after all the year they've had makes it clear that they're now too good for League One7 -
Would love both back, they were our best two players yesterday for a start.ForeverAddickted said:Think it would be beneficial to his progress to stay here, same with Cullen
Neither will play First-Team football next season and think another loan will aid their progress much more than sitting on the bench with a few cameo appearances every now and again
That loan of course either being to a Championship club or if the parent club think they've done well enough, to a Premier League club...
after all the year they've had makes it clear that they're now too good for League One1 -
It's hard to believe, but Bielik is still only 21. If they don't think he's ready for the PL, I can't see any reason for not sending him back to us4
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Only concern I have for Josh and Krystian coming back (if they were loaned out) is how Arsenal and West Ham will view our season i.e.
- Will they see us as a chance for their players to continue to be part of an "established" team with no bedding in and a Manager who will play them
- Or will they think we'll be in a relegation battle that wont benefit their players so would prefer to loan them to a club battling for promotion (Brentford | Bristol City | Leeds etc.)
Guess it all depends on who makes the enquires this summer
Just have to hope that someone doesnt look at them and think: "Ooo I dont want them on loan, we'll offer £5m for them on a perm etc." which the parent club will be unable to refuse2 -
Bielik and Cullen have been superb for us this season, they need to continue their progress and development with us next season.
A 5 million buy out clause would also be great, in case in 12 months time we’re in the Premier league (yes I know it sounds mad, but anything is possible, if Bowyer and Jackson and Gallen stay with us.3 -
Not a chance0
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It may, of course, have just been the excitement of the occasion, but I just got a sense that for Krystian, the win meant he could stay at a club where he felt at home.
I can’t see any way Arse would’ve let him stay with us if we’d stayed in League 1, so maybe he’s already had the conversation and been told - win promotion and you can stay there next year.
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Bielik would have a real job on getting into Arsenal's team, but I think Cullen is being underrated - I don't think he would embarrass himself in West Ham's midfield at all. Nolan is getting on and Rice will be attracting interest from the top teams. I would not rule out him being involved in West Ham match day squads next season.
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You do know that they are not our players?Mendonca In Asdas said:Bielik and Cullen have been superb for us this season, they need to continue their progress and development with us next season.
A 5 million buy out clause would also be great, in case in 12 months time we’re in the Premier league (yes I know it sounds mad, but anything is possible, if Bowyer and Jackson and Gallen stay with us.0 -
I keep saying it, but one of the most impressive things about what Bows, Jacko and co have done this year is improve players - I would say almost all our players have added to their games in one way or another this season, including the loan players. If I were an Arsenal or West Ham scout I'd be very happy with the progress Bielik and Cullen have made and would be reporting back that they are in safe hands at Charlton, assuming douchebag pulls his finger out and gets those new contracts signed.ForeverAddickted said:Only concern I have for Josh and Krystian coming back (if they were loaned out) is how Arsenal and West Ham will view our season i.e.
- Will they see us as a chance for their players to continue to be part of an "established" team with no bedding in and a Manager who will play them
- Or will they think we'll be in a relegation battle that wont benefit their players so would prefer to loan them to a club battling for promotion (Brentford | Bristol City | Leeds etc.)
Guess it all depends on who makes the enquires this summer
Just have to hope that someone doesnt look at them and think: "Ooo I dont want them on loan, we'll offer £5m for them on a perm etc." which the parent club will be unable to refuse
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Steve Gallen said sometime ago that Arsenal and West Ham were both happy that the KB and JC were playing lots of games.
He felt that if we went up then there was a good chance we could loan then both again.
Arsenal like what we do with the players and that KB got lots of game time so there is also the opportunity, increased now, to get other gooner players.
But I doubt anything has been agreed or signed.15 -
There's a massive jump from League 1 to Premier and both players need a season in the Championship.
Bielik at best would be on the bench at Arsenal and Cullen would benefit from a season in the champ to prove he can make the step up.1 -
Will they want a loan fee, will they want a contribution to wages, will we have an owner that will fund the loans.
I suspect Cullens priority is to get in Pellegrinis plans so we may not know about him until very late in tne window.
Wonder if we could get DaSilva back!1 -
Dasilva is signing a permanent deal at Bristol CityKap10 said:Will they want a loan fee, will they want a contribution to wages, will we have an owner that will fund the loans.
I suspect Cullens priority is to get in Pellegrinis plans so we may not know about him until very late in tne window.
Wonder if we could get DaSilva back!
Kasey Palmer might be worth an attempt to get back at the Valley though...2 -
Cullen had a rough season on loan at Bolton in the Championship last year, which quite possibly was a reason why he was available to drop into League One with Charlton.
He's properly ready for the Championship now and without doubt, Bowyer & Co have improved his game - and the player himself has had a season where he'll feel that he's truly progressing.
If West Ham go out and buy a 'ready made Prem' midfielder, there'll be no room in their squad for Cullen (yet) ..... and Charlton in the Championship, where the player is already bedded in, is the perfect place for their loan player.
But first of all, Bowyer and his management team need to be rewarded with new contracts.
Otherwise if they're gone, everybody's efforts are all in vain
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Keeping Cullen & Bielik would be amazing!1
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Love it to be true but doubt it somehow.0
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At least we can have conversations about the possibility of either of them staying. If we had of lost yesterday it wouldn’t even be worth a discussion.
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Don’t PL rules state a maximum squad size of 25 with 8 home grown players ?
I’m assuming Cullen qualifies as home grown but Bielik ? Would there be 8 home grown players ahead of Cullen at West Ham ? I’m sure there would be at Arsenal if that applies to Bielik.1 -
Part of me says he was caught up in the euphoria of what had happened and just said cant wait for next season. Other says that he’d already had the conversation with relevant people at Arsenal and had said he’d like to be with us IF promoted.2
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I imagine that what the parent clubs want is for the players to be playing regularly AND in a team playing the "right" type of football, passing from the back etc, so both Arsenal and West Ham will be happyHenry Irving said:Steve Gallen said sometime ago that Arsenal and West Ham were both happy that the KB and JC were playing lots of games.
He felt that if we went up then there was a good chance we could loan then both again.
Arsenal like what we do with the players and that KB got lots of game time so there is also the opportunity, increased now, to get other gooner players.
But I doubt anything has been agreed or signed.
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Can somebody start a transfer rumours thread ?
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I wonder as well. Would be phenomenal if we kept him another season. He has definite potential as a Premiership player.stoneroses19 said:Part of me says he was caught up in the euphoria of what had happened and just said cant wait for next season. Other says that he’d already had the conversation with relevant people at Arsenal and had said he’d like to be with us IF promoted.1 -
It is easy to get caught up in the euphoria of yesterday,but looking at the bond between those players,I dont see how any of them would want to leave.The lads that never got on ,Solly,Lapslie,Reeves, Nabby who got hooked at half time,this was one happy bunch of players who looked like they enjoyed each others company.A longer stay with us for Cullen and Beilick would benefit everybody,and providing we can get some contracts done,make the close season a lot easier for the manager(who I presume would be Bowyer}.3
