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Summer 2019 Transfer Rumours (ed. Pg 296 - Start of Deadline Day)

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  • NapaAddick
    NapaAddick Posts: 4,657
    edited June 2019
    FYI..... here are the wage bills for all Championship clubs (and PL clubs) in 2017/18. Higher than I thought for our new division. It is well-established that wage bill and table position correlate very well over the long-term (less so over any one year.)
    Our 2017-18 wage bill of £10 million would have ranked rank dead-last in the Championship. The only two clubs with that level of wage spending in 2017-18 both got relegated from our new division. I suspect things have not changed much in a year.
    Thus, to have a mid-table Championship squad (ranked by wages,) we need to spend £20M more on players than we did that year (and probably this year too.) Wow. So a 200% increase in wage spending to be an AVERAGE squad for wages in The Championship. Scary! :'(

  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,045
    edited June 2019
    I'm hearing Boro bidding £2m for Taylor. 
    It would not be a surprise.

    Taylor speaks out against the owner earlier in the season.

    Top goalscorer.

    28/29 year old with a potential last opportunity big pay day transfer.


  • Moo
    Moo Posts: 311
    Sigh! Championship spending is totally out of control. There are other clubs who will be re evaluating their finances such as QPR and Derby for next season. We are going to have to be so smart in the transfer market. It’s good the likes of Reeves , Ajose and marshal have gone. We can swap them for better players. Whatever happens LB had done a magnificent job and I’m sure we will have a good go next season. 

  • Moo
    Moo Posts: 311
    Herbie Kane on loan from Liverpool could be a good shout. Thought he played really well against us. 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    FYI..... here are the wage bills for all Championship clubs (and PL clubs) in 2017/18. Higher than I thought for our new division. It is well-established that wage bill and table position correlate very well over the long-term (less so over any one year.)
    Our 2017-18 wage bill of £10 million would have ranked rank dead-last in the Championship. The only two clubs with that level of wage spending in 2017-18 both got relegated from our new division. I suspect things have not changed much in a year.
    Thus, to have a mid-table Championship squad (ranked by wages,) we need to spend £20M more on players than we did that year (and probably this year too.) Wow. So a 200% increase in wage spending to be an AVERAGE squad for wages in The Championship. Scary! :'(

    Sobering isn't it really. 
  • NapaAddick
    NapaAddick Posts: 4,657
    edited June 2019
    Yes, and if this screenshot of an article in 888 about Championship wages is correct, I am now officially frightened to death. According to this article, the average wage in this division is £25,000 per week.... per player. Average. Not just starters, but everyone.
    This seems impossible until you run the numbers. In my previous post at the top of the page I point out the mid-table Championship team-wage last season (2017-18) was £30 million. Calculate 23 players per team and maybe 80-90% of club wages are players, that comes out to... £20,000-23,000 per week per player, including bench players. :s

  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,225
    edited June 2019
    FYI..... here are the wage bills for all Championship clubs (and PL clubs) in 2017/18. Higher than I thought for our new division. It is well-established that wage bill and table position correlate very well over the long-term (less so over any one year.)
    Our 2017-18 wage bill of £10 million would have ranked rank dead-last in the Championship. The only two clubs with that level of wage spending in 2017-18 both got relegated from our new division. I suspect things have not changed much in a year.
    Thus, to have a mid-table Championship squad (ranked by wages,) we need to spend £20M more on players than we did that year (and probably this year too.) Wow. So a 200% increase in wage spending to be an AVERAGE squad for wages in The Championship. Scary! :'(

    If only @air@"Airman Brown" would write an article about these figures with more analysis.

    What's that? He already did?

    http://www.votvonline.com/home/the-2018-19-blogs/3-6-duchatelet-s-window-of-opportunity-may-not-last/
  • NapaAddick
    NapaAddick Posts: 4,657
    edited June 2019
    FYI..... here are the wage bills for all Championship clubs (and PL clubs) in 2017/18. Higher than I thought for our new division. It is well-established that wage bill and table position correlate very well over the long-term (less so over any one year.)
    Our 2017-18 wage bill of £10 million would have ranked rank dead-last in the Championship. The only two clubs with that level of wage spending in 2017-18 both got relegated from our new division. I suspect things have not changed much in a year.
    Thus, to have a mid-table Championship squad (ranked by wages,) we need to spend £20M more on players than we did that year (and probably this year too.) Wow. So a 200% increase in wage spending to be an AVERAGE squad for wages in The Championship. Scary! :'(

    If only @air@"Airman Brown" would write an article about these figures with more analysis.

    What's that? He already did?

    http://www.votvonline.com/home/the-2018-19-blogs/3-6-duchatelet-s-window-of-opportunity-may-not-last/
    Well, I was hoping you would say these numbers were bunk, instead of confirming them. This is all a real eye-opener. Had no idea it had got so crazy in the Championship. I need to start getting his magazine. The only silver lining I can see in this is that I now think we will get sold... and fast. He knows the SHTF moment financially is upon him. Or, I assume he knows.
  • uie2
    uie2 Posts: 4,596
    I'm hearing Boro bidding £2m for Taylor. 
    We will have nobody left!!
  • NapaAddick
    NapaAddick Posts: 4,657
    edited June 2019
    uie2 said:
    I'm hearing Boro bidding £2m for Taylor. 
    We will have nobody left!!
    Just Roland.


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  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,359


    Putting 2+2 here and saying Bauer is signing. There is no way our social media account would have us on strings like that when they know how desperate we are for him to sign. Would just be cruel, saw sign and Bauer and really got my hopes up 
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    I'm hearing Boro bidding £2m for Taylor. 
    If he didn't want to go to Sunderland I can't see him considering Middlesboro. And surely even Roland would want more than £2m for our best player.
    Roland loves to show us that we know not how damaging he can be...
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344


    Putting 2+2 here and saying Bauer is signing. There is no way our social media account would have us on strings like that when they know how desperate we are for him to sign. Would just be cruel, saw sign and Bauer and really got my hopes up 
    You caught me hook & line with the post too... 


  • Putting 2+2 here and saying Bauer is signing. There is no way our social media account would have us on strings like that when they know how desperate we are for him to sign. Would just be cruel, saw sign and Bauer and really got my hopes up 
    Ffs, all I could see was "Signed" and "Bauer" before it loaded properly!

    :-( 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,850


    Putting 2+2 here and saying Bauer is signing. There is no way our social media account would have us on strings like that when they know how desperate we are for him to sign. Would just be cruel, saw sign and Bauer and really got my hopes up 
    You'd hope so. If I bought this shirt and he then signed for Palace a day later it would be a bit of a sickener!

  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,986
    The old football rumours website was the go to place for gossip before Twitter 

    This on there:
    29 May 2019 02:15:48
    Millwall are confident of signing striker Milan Duric from Salernitana, although Charlton are also interested.

  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,850
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,850
    Sturridge and Moreno let go by Liverpool. Not relevant to us though!
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  • Laddick01
    Laddick01 Posts: 6,365
    Matthews would be a decent number 2. Probably quite cheap as well.
  • I'm hearing Boro bidding £2m for Taylor. 
    Blimey! Peterborough are really going for it!
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,008
    Let's be honest, Charlton will consider anyone that's free. 
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    A twatter post from some guy called Nick My Shiter and people are actually posting it up?

    Sheffield United came good with a below average wage bill last season. With the correct man at the helm, with the right support and the ability to coach his game correctly to his players is priceless.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,766
    Addickted said:
    A twatter post from some guy called Nick My Shiter and people are actually posting it up?

    Sheffield United came good with a below average wage bill last season. With the correct man at the helm, with the right support and the ability to coach his game correctly to his players is priceless.
    To be fair, he’s a verified shiter..
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,168
    Addickted said:
    A twatter post from some guy called Nick My Shiter and people are actually posting it up?

    Sheffield United came good with a below average wage bill last season. With the correct man at the helm, with the right support and the ability to coach his game correctly to his players is priceless.
    How far below average though? I'm reading between the lines but it sounds to me like Bowyer will have almost a League 1 budget. I think it's overly pessimistic to say its impossible for us to compete next season, but realistically survival is the only target. Anything above that is a huge bonus.

    I think a few fans need to rein in their expectations a little bit otherwise they're going to be in for a very disappointing season.
  • Viewfinder
    Viewfinder Posts: 4,911
    cafc4life said:
    Ross McCormack released by Villa. Could do a lot worse 
    Astonishing decline.  Remember when he scored all four goals in Leeds' 4-2 win at The Valley?
  • Viewfinder
    Viewfinder Posts: 4,911
    PopIcon said:
    Not us but looks like Jed Steer has been tossed into the pile of players that got a side promoted but not deemed good enough for the level above 


    Would welcome him or Amos back.
    Amos had a terrible season at Millwall.
    There are very few ex-Charlton players I would personally resign. People cling to old memories and sadly these rarely work out.
    I think we all draw the line at Morgan Fox.
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    Isnt it going to be the same model as last season?
    ie players who have played well against us this season and caught Bowyers eye - the likes of Toney,Wilks,TJ Hamilton along with a couple of loanee Prem players (which hopefully is Cullen and Bielik)
  • billysboots
    billysboots Posts: 1,596
    Looks like it - late loaners when the prem have their squads sorted . Hopefully lots of goodwill from Arsenal and WHU to send us their better players for Lee Bowyer to improve