I know it's been said an million times before, but what an absolute shambles. The job Bowyer has done... for the single season performance he's just had - well... it's got to be up there with anything Seed, Lawrence, Curbs, or Powell ever achieved... the best managers this club has ever know.
Winning promotion on a shoe string.
Playing good quality football the likes of which we didn't really see even under Powell and only a few times under Curbs
Turning supporter apathy in August into one of the largest, noisiest, most united turnouts ever by our supporters at Wembley 9 months later.
I mean, I honestly don't know what more he could have done. Yet here we are, at the 11th hour, and things are merely "beginning to move in the right direction". And it's not even as if it appears a difficult deal to do - Bowyer really, truly wants to stay FFS!
It beggars belief, it really does.
Don’t be silly, can’t put in the sand breathe as some of those.
We didn’t pay a fee for anyone but let’s be honest we still had a very good squad for the third tier. Don’t get me wrong, he done an outstanding job but all we did was win promotion from the third tier. Of course we need to keep him but I think his achievements are slightly exaggerated, mostly because of the shit over the last few years.
Tell me a single, standalone season where any of those mangers achieved significantly more than Bowyer did last year in less favourable circumstances?
Who ever got promoted without a good squad? Powell and Curbs certainly had very good squads. And lets not forget who assembled that very good squad and who identified and attracted those players despite having no money for fees. Curbs and Powell were both backed in the transfer market during their most successful years to an extent Bowyer can only dream of.
Lennie Lawrence is the main comparison for me, getting us up despite the turmoil of the leaving the Valley. Ok, it was a division higher, but promotion is promotion.
What Bowyer has done this year is 100% comparable with some of the best managerial achievements to happen at Charlton. I don't think it's at all an exaggeration to say that.
Lawrence was backed in the transfer market.
In the close season before the start of the 85/86 season he was given the resources to bring in John Humprey, Steve Thomson, John Pearson, George Shipley, Mark Reid, and John Pender. Compared to previous close seasons this represented a huge outlay on new players. Later on in the season Jim Melrose was added to give a final push to promotion. Lawrence chose well and promotion was achieved. The sting in the tail was leaving the Valley for Selhurst Park.
& Jimmy Loveridge ..................... The only one of LLs signings that summer who wasn't a success.
John Pearson was signed at the end of 84/85 season, last game of the season it was announced at halftime that we had signed JP for 100k which was a huge fee for us at that time
Didn't we sign Steve Thomson to replace John Pender who got injured after only a few games & if that's correct who played alongside Pender at the start of the season ?
Not sure any 'ITK' posters should be taking the piss out of people posting rumours, even if it is JA. Those done deals and two tough weeks have hardly played out well have they?
Not sure any 'ITK' posters should be taking the piss out of people posting rumours, even if it is JA. Those done deals and two tough weeks have hardly played out well have they?
Croydon you have to remember that I didn’t say two weeks, I said GM thought (or hoped?) it would be done in two weeks. That was 100% the case. Wasn’t my fault it didn’t happen. Not even GM’s probably. Pretty sad that a year later people are banging on about it as if they were somehow cheated. ‘Don’t take it all so serious’. #Snowflakes #;-)
@hoof_it_up_to_benty has been out for a beer with Roland tonight, have asked him if RD mentioned the take over or Bow's contract. Just waiting for reply now brb
I know it's been said an million times before, but what an absolute shambles. The job Bowyer has done... for the single season performance he's just had - well... it's got to be up there with anything Seed, Lawrence, Curbs, or Powell ever achieved... the best managers this club has ever know.
Winning promotion on a shoe string.
Playing good quality football the likes of which we didn't really see even under Powell and only a few times under Curbs
Turning supporter apathy in August into one of the largest, noisiest, most united turnouts ever by our supporters at Wembley 9 months later.
I mean, I honestly don't know what more he could have done. Yet here we are, at the 11th hour, and things are merely "beginning to move in the right direction". And it's not even as if it appears a difficult deal to do - Bowyer really, truly wants to stay FFS!
It beggars belief, it really does.
Don’t be silly, can’t put in the sand breathe as some of those.
We didn’t pay a fee for anyone but let’s be honest we still had a very good squad for the third tier. Don’t get me wrong, he done an outstanding job but all we did was win promotion from the third tier. Of course we need to keep him but I think his achievements are slightly exaggerated, mostly because of the shit over the last few years.
Tell me a single, standalone season where any of those mangers achieved significantly more than Bowyer did last year in less favourable circumstances?
Who ever got promoted without a good squad? Powell and Curbs certainly had very good squads. And lets not forget who assembled that very good squad and who identified and attracted those players despite having no money for fees. Curbs and Powell were both backed in the transfer market during their most successful years to an extent Bowyer can only dream of.
Lennie Lawrence is the main comparison for me, getting us up despite the turmoil of the leaving the Valley. Ok, it was a division higher, but promotion is promotion.
What Bowyer has done this year is 100% comparable with some of the best managerial achievements to happen at Charlton. I don't think it's at all an exaggeration to say that.
Lawrence was backed in the transfer market.
In the close season before the start of the 85/86 season he was given the resources to bring in John Humprey, Steve Thomson, John Pearson, George Shipley, Mark Reid, and John Pender. Compared to previous close seasons this represented a huge outlay on new players. Later on in the season Jim Melrose was added to give a final push to promotion. Lawrence chose well and promotion was achieved. The sting in the tail was leaving the Valley for Selhurst Park.
& Jimmy Loveridge ..................... The only one of LLs signings that summer who wasn't a success.
John Pearson was signed at the end of 84/85 season, last game of the season it was announced at halftime that we had signed JP for 100k which was a huge fee for us at that time
Didn't we sign Steve Thomson to replace John Pender who got injured after only a few games & if that's correct who played alongside Pender at the start of the season ?
Les Berry?
He certainly played a handful of games that season.
Not sure any 'ITK' posters should be taking the piss out of people posting rumours, even if it is JA. Those done deals and two tough weeks have hardly played out well have they?
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John Pearson was signed at the end of 84/85 season, last game of the season it was announced at halftime that we had signed JP for 100k which was a huge fee for us at that time
Didn't we sign Steve Thomson to replace John Pender who got injured after only a few games & if that's correct who played alongside Pender at the start of the season ?
#Snowflakes #;-)
Let's see. Hmmm, you are going on a long jou...r nope!
The tea leafs say no.
Hmmm. Nope!
A bloke called Roland came through... No he didn't, the twats still alive! allegedly.
Jim is sick of all the CL haters .
He certainly played a handful of games that season.
Elfs talks more b@llocks than Ackworth.
Six bloody million.
Greatest thread of all time