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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)

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  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,169
    I do think worst case scenario with the Aussies is they buy us, we struggle a bit for decent signings, they run out of cash and then sell up to one of the multiple parties that are obviously interested. If we've learned one thing from this two year debacle it's that we have no shortage of suitors. All we need is for the Aussies to not be Roland-level insane and if things go a bit sideways at least they'll probably sell us, preferably to someone with money. As long as the madness of Roland is gone we'll be ok eventually
  • RedJohn said:
    Heard Dalman has walked, Aussies favourites, 
    The sad thing is I have long since believed this will happen and that the Aussies are imo fav to get this done first real tragedy but it is what it is 

    I had hoped that Reams info was new and had some favour due to his links to Cardiff 

    Let’s hope this is not the case and Dalman is in but I get the feeling that the Aussies have been aided into position by the aide of some one in the club 
    Tragedy? Do me a favour.  Everyone says they want players who really want to play for the club not those after the money.  Well here you have a group who are so keen to own us they have put up with that prick RD for 2 years when loads of other clubs are available.  The least we could do, if they do buy us, is give them a chance.


    If you have the choice of Dalman or Aussies it is a tragedy if you don’t get Dalman 


    I don’t believe I have said that They won’t be given a chance 

    but we as a club are hemorrhaging money we have little assets and the only people that seemingly want to get it done haven’t been able to get their shit together in two yrs 

    they haven’t found a money tree and they are still actively seeking investment 

    too me thats a tragedy but if you think it’s all jolly hockey sticks then bravo  
  • jacob_CAFC
    jacob_CAFC Posts: 2,063
    RedJohn said:
    Heard Dalman has walked, Aussies favourites, 
    why the lol's on this? is it a joke?
  • RedJohn said:
    Heard Dalman has walked, Aussies favourites, 
    The sad thing is I have long since believed this will happen and that the Aussies are imo fav to get this done first real tragedy but it is what it is 

    I had hoped that Reams info was new and had some favour due to his links to Cardiff 

    Let’s hope this is not the case and Dalman is in but I get the feeling that the Aussies have been aided into position by the aide of some one in the club 
    Tragedy? Do me a favour.  Everyone says they want players who really want to play for the club not those after the money.  Well here you have a group who are so keen to own us they have put up with that prick RD for 2 years when loads of other clubs are available.  The least we could do, if they do buy us, is give them a chance.
    I'd love to own us and have great intentions to achieve success. I've been hanging around the club for 30 plus years. Doesn't mean I have the funds to keep us going even if I could find the dough to do the initial purchase.

    I think that's the concern rather than necessarily the intentions of the consortium.

    The Aussies sound like they're in bed with relatively unknown to them investors whom  they've likely sold a vision to or (god forbid) a return on (a return that is slim compared to far less accessible and convenient investments outside of the nutty world of football).

    The Aussies are an unknown quantity to us but my concern is that whilst they may be The Good Guys their investors are relatively unknown quantities even to them.

    Risks a Kevin Cash scenario if those added investors feel they were missold or misunderstood what they are buying into (and how unlikely a financial return is whilst having a diluted profile in the day to day running and ego trip of being seen to own a club and all its trappings) or just get bored and walk away in a manner that we wouldn't and couldn't.
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,477
    RedJohn said:
    Heard Dalman has walked, Aussies favourites, 
    why the lol's on this? is it a joke?
    Everything’s a joke jacob.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    RedJohn said:
    Heard Dalman has walked, Aussies favourites, 
    why the lol's on this? is it a joke?
    Everything’s a joke jacob.
    It's simply how life is as a Charlton Fan. Misery is Charlton Life
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    RedJohn said:
    Heard Dalman has walked, Aussies favourites, 
    why the lol's on this? is it a joke?
    I think we're all laughing at the comment because if true then its all you can do at this stage
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,673
    I know there's crap owners out there.
    We have one of the worse ffs.
    But there are also many many good owners. 
    Surely we are due a good one at some point. 
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    I know there's crap owners out there.
    We have one of the worse ffs.
    But there are also many many good owners. 
    Surely we are due a good one at some point. 
    Roland just sell the club and Fuck Off 
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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    I know there's crap owners out there.
    We have one of the worse ffs.
    But there are also many many good owners. 
    Surely we are due a good one at some point. 
    All I hope is that if we do have crap owners that they're not as bad at selling the club as Roland - I think this is one of the worst things about having him, he's so deluded I cant imagine anyone wanting to keep the club hostage like what he's done so if our next owners are bad then I hope they'd sell the club a lot quicker than what he's done
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,736
    RedJohn said:
    Heard Dalman has walked, Aussies favourites, 
    why the lol's on this? is it a joke?
    Yes . 
  • shuffles67
    shuffles67 Posts: 105
    It would be amazing if we get cleanly bought out at £33M and the loans are "taken care of" (whatever that means.) But given we know the following...
    1. Debt to Staprix + Directors was £67M at the end of 2017-18 and likely went higher after 2018-19.

    If we have debts that high then I can't see no one buying 
  • captainbob
    captainbob Posts: 939
    It would be amazing if we get cleanly bought out at £33M and the loans are "taken care of" (whatever that means.) But given we know the following...
    1. Debt to Staprix + Directors was £67M at the end of 2017-18 and likely went higher after 2018-19.

    If we have debts that high then I can't see no one buying 
    Have to disagree. If we have debts that high then I can see no one buying.
  • up_the_valley
    up_the_valley Posts: 4,186
    It would be amazing if we get cleanly bought out at £33M and the loans are "taken care of" (whatever that means.) But given we know the following...
    1. Debt to Staprix + Directors was £67M at the end of 2017-18 and likely went higher after 2018-19.

    If we have debts that high then I can't see no one buying 
    Have to disagree. If we have debts that high then I can see no one buying.
    Grammar lesson for the day.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,995
    It would be amazing if we get cleanly bought out at £33M and the loans are "taken care of" (whatever that means.) But given we know the following...
    1. Debt to Staprix + Directors was £67M at the end of 2017-18 and likely went higher after 2018-19.

    If we have debts that high then I can't see no one buying 
    Close the thread. No one's buying :smile:
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    cafcpolo said:
    JamesSeed said:
    OK I'm back to hearing stuff I can't pass on now, so time to give you all a break :-)
    Feel free to slide into my DMs.
    I used to have a pair of those I don't wear any more if you want spares, what size do you take?  ;)
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,955
    1816, Sir Humprey Davy's safety lamp for miners is first tested at Hebburn colliery.
    Stop jumping the gun, we are still on page 1815.
    Never mind, Happy Valley.

    I guess some posts on this thread got deleted by mods, sending the thread back to the previous page.


  • Ferryman
    Ferryman Posts: 2,921
    RedJohn said:
    Heard Dalman has walked, Aussies favourites, 
    The sad thing is I have long since believed this will happen and that the Aussies are imo fav to get this done first real tragedy but it is what it is 

    I had hoped that Reams info was new and had some favour due to his links to Cardiff 

    Let’s hope this is not the case and Dalman is in but I get the feeling that the Aussies have been aided into position by the aide of some one in the club 
    IMO even if Dalman is out, it doesn't make it any more likely that the Aussie's can/will complete a deal.
  • ValleyMick
    ValleyMick Posts: 473
    RD not taking the best price he can get now, doesn't make any commercial sense, particularly given the relatively low wage ceiling imposed. If he holds onto us, he'll have another year of losses to fund, we'll almost certainly get relegated and the price potential owners will pay for a L1 club will be lower. It's all very, very strange.   
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  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,221
    RD not taking the best price he can get now, doesn't make any commercial sense, particularly given the relatively low wage ceiling imposed. If he holds onto us, he'll have another year of losses to fund, we'll almost certainly get relegated and the price potential owners will pay for a L1 club will be lower. It's all very, very strange.   
    He knows it and the buyers do too.

    Simple solution is cut the price, pay off the bonds, forget any add ons and just stick to the price.

    But this is Duchatelet.
  • happyvalley
    happyvalley Posts: 8,996
    1819, Queen Victoria born.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,560
    edited June 2019
    1819, Queen Victoria born.
    Wasn’t she just plain old Victoria then?
  • joeaddick
    joeaddick Posts: 430
    Wasn't that long ago that Duchatelet said he was committed to the Aussie bid..?  
    Not overly worrying, until you consider how much he loves us.
  • 1819, Queen Victoria born.
    Wasn’t she just plain old Victoria then?
    Nope, she was plain old Alexandrina 
  • RedJohn said:
    Heard Dalman has walked, Aussies favourites, 
    The sad thing is I have long since believed this will happen and that the Aussies are imo fav to get this done first real tragedy but it is what it is 

    I had hoped that Reams info was new and had some favour due to his links to Cardiff 

    Let’s hope this is not the case and Dalman is in but I get the feeling that the Aussies have been aided into position by the aide of some one in the club 
    Tragedy? Do me a favour.  Everyone says they want players who really want to play for the club not those after the money.  Well here you have a group who are so keen to own us they have put up with that prick RD for 2 years when loads of other clubs are available.  The least we could do, if they do buy us, is give them a chance.
    If you have the choice of Dalman or Aussies it is a tragedy if you don’t get Dalman 

    I don’t believe I have said that They won’t be given a chance 

    but we as a club are hemorrhaging money we have little assets and the only people that seemingly want to get it done haven’t been able to get their shit together in two yrs 

    they haven’t found a money tree and they are still actively seeking investment 

    too me thats a tragedy but if you think it’s all jolly hockey sticks then bravo  
    Said i would give them a chance, not that it is jolly hockey sticks.

    you say you will give them a chance but before they have even bought you are calling it a tragedy.

    From what i have read Dalman doesn't have enough of his own cash so will have investors behind him whom we don't yet know.

    RedJohn said:
    Heard Dalman has walked, Aussies favourites, 
    The sad thing is I have long since believed this will happen and that the Aussies are imo fav to get this done first real tragedy but it is what it is 

    I had hoped that Reams info was new and had some favour due to his links to Cardiff 

    Let’s hope this is not the case and Dalman is in but I get the feeling that the Aussies have been aided into position by the aide of some one in the club 
    Tragedy? Do me a favour.  Everyone says they want players who really want to play for the club not those after the money.  Well here you have a group who are so keen to own us they have put up with that prick RD for 2 years when loads of other clubs are available.  The least we could do, if they do buy us, is give them a chance.
    I'd love to own us and have great intentions to achieve success. I've been hanging around the club for 30 plus years. Doesn't mean I have the funds to keep us going even if I could find the dough to do the initial purchase.

    I think that's the concern rather than necessarily the intentions of the consortium.

    The Aussies sound like they're in bed with relatively unknown to them investors whom  they've likely sold a vision to or (god forbid) a return on (a return that is slim compared to far less accessible and convenient investments outside of the nutty world of football).

    The Aussies are an unknown quantity to us but my concern is that whilst they may be The Good Guys their investors are relatively unknown quantities even to them.

    Risks a Kevin Cash scenario if those added investors feel they were missold or misunderstood what they are buying into (and how unlikely a financial return is whilst having a diluted profile in the day to day running and ego trip of being seen to own a club and all its trappings) or just get bored and walk away in a manner that we wouldn't and couldn't.
    I don't disagree with much of what you say but as i say above, i don't think dalman is rich enough to go it alone so will have investors and we don't yet know who so not sure if there is much of a difference.

    Muir is a successful businessman, i give him the benefit of the doubt at least that he would not hang around something for 2 years, spending a load on Due Diligence and being part of a group spending £30m on the club only to rock up on the second day and realise they did not have funds to cover at least a year or two’s losses.

    if i had an uneducated guess i would rather Dalman given his UK football experience and positive Cardiff vibe but frankly I will take either over RD giving Bowyer no signings of the 5 he thought he would have done this week so far.


  • CheshireAddick
    CheshireAddick Posts: 1,305
    Sorry to go slightly off subject but a quick question.... why do we call the prick Rowland?. The very best he deserves is Douchatelet. I call my friends by their first name and enemies by their last name. There got it of my chest :smile:
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,627
    Never believed the Dalman bid would go anywhere, especially after his comments last week saying he was looking forward to the coming season with Warnock etc. 

    To my mind there has only been 1 serious bid .....and they dont  currently have the money to fund us properly. 
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    Seems like it’s coming to a conclusion and as fans we have no say in the outcome. I’ll raspberry Roland all the way out the door and whether it’s Dalman or the Aussies I’ll be pleased to give them a chance to put our club back on track after seven diabolical years. During that time we’ve had two highlights. Chris Powell and Lee Bowyer. A wonderful promotion as Champions under one and Wembley wonders under the other. Not much for a football fan to cheer about. Dalman has allegedly access to more money although I have no idea if that’s true. He has experience in English football and is coveted by his current clubs fans. He is my favourite. Should he fail and the Aussies win out then although I have reservations based on nothing more than gossip and rumour on forum posts but they deserve and will get my 100% support until they don’t deserve it. New era for The Addicks on the horizon. Lee Bowyer 100% support. COYR
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    Sorry to go slightly off subject but a quick question.... why do we call the prick Rowland?. The very best he deserves is Douchatelet. I call my friends by their first name and enemies by their last name. There got it of my chest :smile:
    People struggle enough with spellings on here

    Roland should be easier and quicker to spell than Douchebag is
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