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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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Uncle DickyHenry Irving said:
Who is his named source @Stu_of_kumming ?Stu_of_Kunming said:
Doucher is someone, like nla who has named his source, more than once, is it really his fault if his source was misled / wrong?Chizz said:
You're right, I do.Taxi_Lad said:
@ChizzTaxi_Lad said:Chizz said:
Yes it was. Lots of times. By you.DOUCHER said:
that was what was said at the time - another reason why i have come to this conclusion nowChizz said:
Lots of people are very appreciative of the information and background you have been able to provide on this thread. So, it's worth asking you - above all people - one, specific question. Don't feel compelled to answer it if you don't want to, or if doing so breaches the confidences into which you have been taken. But, if you can answer it, I think it will make a lot of people feel very much more assured.DOUCHER said:only conclusion i can come to after 2 years of this originally completely incorrectly titled thread is that there was a complete change of strategy after relegation. This included 2 main changes: One was to ditch the network as a failed experiment. The other was to pretend that a takeover was imminent. Nothing else makes any sense. At this point, the pig headed will say nothing rd does makes any sense but that is because they aren't seeing through the bollox.
Are you still one hundred per cent confident that RD will have sold the club before the start of last season?
.
you seem to enjoy digging out @DOUCHER when he posts and picking up on inconsistency in his posts but don’t we all change our views as things progress (or stagnate).
E.g. @nth london addick has been an adamant “nothings happening “ since god knows when but is now firmly in the “RD won’t be here by the start of the season” camp. @DOUCHER has actually put himself out there by stating his belief as the opposite. Both would be going on info the are privy to. I don’t see the need for your hostility
Some people post what they genuinely believe to be the current situation from their - named or unnamed - sources. I don't dig them out. Other people have a more forensic, journalistic approach and post what they can, only when they can source and corroborate it; and when it doesn't break the opportunities for other journalists to break the story. I don't dig them out. Typically, many, or most, of the comments these people post turn out to be proven in the fullness of time.
But some choose to relish in revealing a bit of information simply in order to counter, gainsay or belittle what other posters have commented. Usually, nothing that these people post bears close scrutiny. For example, it's difficult to have a great deal of trust in someone stating that RD will still be the owner at the start of the 2019/20 season, having spent the whole of last summer confirming he won't be the owner at the start of the 2018/19 season.
And I don't think those people should really object too strongly if their inconsistencies are highlighted. If you think repeating something back to someone is hostile, I have to disagree, with the greatest of respect. I hope my points are taken with humour - on this thread at least, that's certainly how they're meant.
Almost everyone 'itk' has been left with egg on their face at some point, mostly down to RD, not because they are deliberately putting forward false information.3 -
I was told that the rugby club were suing is that correct@airman BrownAirman Brown said:http://www.votvonline.com/home/the-2018-19-blogs/9-6-ex-charlton-directors-respond-over-loan-claims/
The only people insisting on repayment of the loans (in their terms release of the charges) are the buyers, perhaps for good reasons, but the ex-directors have no such leverage.
As for the training ground my guess is that refers to the dispute with Footscray Rugby Club which I’ve reported previously. Why did Roland spend £1m on facilities on their land and a road across it, but then leave them standing unused?0 -
If that’s correct, this could be one of the skeletons in the closet that’s come to light during DD?bertpalmer said:
I was told that the rugby club were suing is that correct@airman BrownAirman Brown said:http://www.votvonline.com/home/the-2018-19-blogs/9-6-ex-charlton-directors-respond-over-loan-claims/
The only people insisting on repayment of the loans (in their terms release of the charges) are the buyers, perhaps for good reasons, but the ex-directors have no such leverage.
As for the training ground my guess is that refers to the dispute with Footscray Rugby Club which I’ve reported previously. Why did Roland spend £1m on facilities on their land and a road across it, but then leave them standing unused?2 -
What does uncle Dicky Doucher from Dartford know !bobmunro said:
Uncle DickyHenry Irving said:
Who is his named source @Stu_of_kumming ?Stu_of_Kunming said:
Doucher is someone, like nla who has named his source, more than once, is it really his fault if his source was misled / wrong?Chizz said:
You're right, I do.Taxi_Lad said:
@ChizzTaxi_Lad said:Chizz said:
Yes it was. Lots of times. By you.DOUCHER said:
that was what was said at the time - another reason why i have come to this conclusion nowChizz said:
Lots of people are very appreciative of the information and background you have been able to provide on this thread. So, it's worth asking you - above all people - one, specific question. Don't feel compelled to answer it if you don't want to, or if doing so breaches the confidences into which you have been taken. But, if you can answer it, I think it will make a lot of people feel very much more assured.DOUCHER said:only conclusion i can come to after 2 years of this originally completely incorrectly titled thread is that there was a complete change of strategy after relegation. This included 2 main changes: One was to ditch the network as a failed experiment. The other was to pretend that a takeover was imminent. Nothing else makes any sense. At this point, the pig headed will say nothing rd does makes any sense but that is because they aren't seeing through the bollox.
Are you still one hundred per cent confident that RD will have sold the club before the start of last season?
.
you seem to enjoy digging out @DOUCHER when he posts and picking up on inconsistency in his posts but don’t we all change our views as things progress (or stagnate).
E.g. @nth london addick has been an adamant “nothings happening “ since god knows when but is now firmly in the “RD won’t be here by the start of the season” camp. @DOUCHER has actually put himself out there by stating his belief as the opposite. Both would be going on info the are privy to. I don’t see the need for your hostility
Some people post what they genuinely believe to be the current situation from their - named or unnamed - sources. I don't dig them out. Other people have a more forensic, journalistic approach and post what they can, only when they can source and corroborate it; and when it doesn't break the opportunities for other journalists to break the story. I don't dig them out. Typically, many, or most, of the comments these people post turn out to be proven in the fullness of time.
But some choose to relish in revealing a bit of information simply in order to counter, gainsay or belittle what other posters have commented. Usually, nothing that these people post bears close scrutiny. For example, it's difficult to have a great deal of trust in someone stating that RD will still be the owner at the start of the 2019/20 season, having spent the whole of last summer confirming he won't be the owner at the start of the 2018/19 season.
And I don't think those people should really object too strongly if their inconsistencies are highlighted. If you think repeating something back to someone is hostile, I have to disagree, with the greatest of respect. I hope my points are taken with humour - on this thread at least, that's certainly how they're meant.
Almost everyone 'itk' has been left with egg on their face at some point, mostly down to RD, not because they are deliberately putting forward false information.0 -
Henry Irving said:
Who is his named source @Stu_of_kumming ?Stu_of_Kunming said:
Doucher is someone, like nla who has named his source, more than once, is it really his fault if his source was misled / wrong?Chizz said:
You're right, I do.Taxi_Lad said:
@ChizzTaxi_Lad said:Chizz said:
Yes it was. Lots of times. By you.DOUCHER said:
that was what was said at the time - another reason why i have come to this conclusion nowChizz said:
Lots of people are very appreciative of the information and background you have been able to provide on this thread. So, it's worth asking you - above all people - one, specific question. Don't feel compelled to answer it if you don't want to, or if doing so breaches the confidences into which you have been taken. But, if you can answer it, I think it will make a lot of people feel very much more assured.DOUCHER said:only conclusion i can come to after 2 years of this originally completely incorrectly titled thread is that there was a complete change of strategy after relegation. This included 2 main changes: One was to ditch the network as a failed experiment. The other was to pretend that a takeover was imminent. Nothing else makes any sense. At this point, the pig headed will say nothing rd does makes any sense but that is because they aren't seeing through the bollox.
Are you still one hundred per cent confident that RD will have sold the club before the start of last season?
.
you seem to enjoy digging out @DOUCHER when he posts and picking up on inconsistency in his posts but don’t we all change our views as things progress (or stagnate).
E.g. @nth london addick has been an adamant “nothings happening “ since god knows when but is now firmly in the “RD won’t be here by the start of the season” camp. @DOUCHER has actually put himself out there by stating his belief as the opposite. Both would be going on info the are privy to. I don’t see the need for your hostility
Some people post what they genuinely believe to be the current situation from their - named or unnamed - sources. I don't dig them out. Other people have a more forensic, journalistic approach and post what they can, only when they can source and corroborate it; and when it doesn't break the opportunities for other journalists to break the story. I don't dig them out. Typically, many, or most, of the comments these people post turn out to be proven in the fullness of time.
But some choose to relish in revealing a bit of information simply in order to counter, gainsay or belittle what other posters have commented. Usually, nothing that these people post bears close scrutiny. For example, it's difficult to have a great deal of trust in someone stating that RD will still be the owner at the start of the 2019/20 season, having spent the whole of last summer confirming he won't be the owner at the start of the 2018/19 season.
And I don't think those people should really object too strongly if their inconsistencies are highlighted. If you think repeating something back to someone is hostile, I have to disagree, with the greatest of respect. I hope my points are taken with humour - on this thread at least, that's certainly how they're meant.
Almost everyone 'itk' has been left with egg on their face at some point, mostly down to RD, not because they are deliberately putting forward false information.bobmunro said:
Uncle DickyHenry Irving said:
Who is his named source @Stu_of_kumming ?Stu_of_Kunming said:
Doucher is someone, like nla who has named his source, more than once, is it really his fault if his source was misled / wrong?Chizz said:
You're right, I do.Taxi_Lad said:
@ChizzTaxi_Lad said:Chizz said:
Yes it was. Lots of times. By you.DOUCHER said:
that was what was said at the time - another reason why i have come to this conclusion nowChizz said:
Lots of people are very appreciative of the information and background you have been able to provide on this thread. So, it's worth asking you - above all people - one, specific question. Don't feel compelled to answer it if you don't want to, or if doing so breaches the confidences into which you have been taken. But, if you can answer it, I think it will make a lot of people feel very much more assured.DOUCHER said:only conclusion i can come to after 2 years of this originally completely incorrectly titled thread is that there was a complete change of strategy after relegation. This included 2 main changes: One was to ditch the network as a failed experiment. The other was to pretend that a takeover was imminent. Nothing else makes any sense. At this point, the pig headed will say nothing rd does makes any sense but that is because they aren't seeing through the bollox.
Are you still one hundred per cent confident that RD will have sold the club before the start of last season?
.
you seem to enjoy digging out @DOUCHER when he posts and picking up on inconsistency in his posts but don’t we all change our views as things progress (or stagnate).
E.g. @nth london addick has been an adamant “nothings happening “ since god knows when but is now firmly in the “RD won’t be here by the start of the season” camp. @DOUCHER has actually put himself out there by stating his belief as the opposite. Both would be going on info the are privy to. I don’t see the need for your hostility
Some people post what they genuinely believe to be the current situation from their - named or unnamed - sources. I don't dig them out. Other people have a more forensic, journalistic approach and post what they can, only when they can source and corroborate it; and when it doesn't break the opportunities for other journalists to break the story. I don't dig them out. Typically, many, or most, of the comments these people post turn out to be proven in the fullness of time.
But some choose to relish in revealing a bit of information simply in order to counter, gainsay or belittle what other posters have commented. Usually, nothing that these people post bears close scrutiny. For example, it's difficult to have a great deal of trust in someone stating that RD will still be the owner at the start of the 2019/20 season, having spent the whole of last summer confirming he won't be the owner at the start of the 2018/19 season.
And I don't think those people should really object too strongly if their inconsistencies are highlighted. If you think repeating something back to someone is hostile, I have to disagree, with the greatest of respect. I hope my points are taken with humour - on this thread at least, that's certainly how they're meant.
Almost everyone 'itk' has been left with egg on their face at some point, mostly down to RD, not because they are deliberately putting forward false information.
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It literally has been going on for years!JamesSeed said:Has any other club sale been as complicated and drawn out as this one? Even I was beginning to blame the Aussies, but now the evidence points in another direction. If Dalman walks away you have to think this could literally go on for years.2 -
So Docuher has named Richard Murray as his source? Must have missed that.Stu_of_Kunming said:Henry Irving said:
Who is his named source @Stu_of_kumming ?Stu_of_Kunming said:
Doucher is someone, like nla who has named his source, more than once, is it really his fault if his source was misled / wrong?Chizz said:
You're right, I do.Taxi_Lad said:
@ChizzTaxi_Lad said:Chizz said:
Yes it was. Lots of times. By you.DOUCHER said:
that was what was said at the time - another reason why i have come to this conclusion nowChizz said:
Lots of people are very appreciative of the information and background you have been able to provide on this thread. So, it's worth asking you - above all people - one, specific question. Don't feel compelled to answer it if you don't want to, or if doing so breaches the confidences into which you have been taken. But, if you can answer it, I think it will make a lot of people feel very much more assured.DOUCHER said:only conclusion i can come to after 2 years of this originally completely incorrectly titled thread is that there was a complete change of strategy after relegation. This included 2 main changes: One was to ditch the network as a failed experiment. The other was to pretend that a takeover was imminent. Nothing else makes any sense. At this point, the pig headed will say nothing rd does makes any sense but that is because they aren't seeing through the bollox.
Are you still one hundred per cent confident that RD will have sold the club before the start of last season?
.
you seem to enjoy digging out @DOUCHER when he posts and picking up on inconsistency in his posts but don’t we all change our views as things progress (or stagnate).
E.g. @nth london addick has been an adamant “nothings happening “ since god knows when but is now firmly in the “RD won’t be here by the start of the season” camp. @DOUCHER has actually put himself out there by stating his belief as the opposite. Both would be going on info the are privy to. I don’t see the need for your hostility
Some people post what they genuinely believe to be the current situation from their - named or unnamed - sources. I don't dig them out. Other people have a more forensic, journalistic approach and post what they can, only when they can source and corroborate it; and when it doesn't break the opportunities for other journalists to break the story. I don't dig them out. Typically, many, or most, of the comments these people post turn out to be proven in the fullness of time.
But some choose to relish in revealing a bit of information simply in order to counter, gainsay or belittle what other posters have commented. Usually, nothing that these people post bears close scrutiny. For example, it's difficult to have a great deal of trust in someone stating that RD will still be the owner at the start of the 2019/20 season, having spent the whole of last summer confirming he won't be the owner at the start of the 2018/19 season.
And I don't think those people should really object too strongly if their inconsistencies are highlighted. If you think repeating something back to someone is hostile, I have to disagree, with the greatest of respect. I hope my points are taken with humour - on this thread at least, that's certainly how they're meant.
Almost everyone 'itk' has been left with egg on their face at some point, mostly down to RD, not because they are deliberately putting forward false information.bobmunro said:
Uncle DickyHenry Irving said:
Who is his named source @Stu_of_kumming ?Stu_of_Kunming said:
Doucher is someone, like nla who has named his source, more than once, is it really his fault if his source was misled / wrong?Chizz said:
You're right, I do.Taxi_Lad said:
@ChizzTaxi_Lad said:Chizz said:
Yes it was. Lots of times. By you.DOUCHER said:
that was what was said at the time - another reason why i have come to this conclusion nowChizz said:
Lots of people are very appreciative of the information and background you have been able to provide on this thread. So, it's worth asking you - above all people - one, specific question. Don't feel compelled to answer it if you don't want to, or if doing so breaches the confidences into which you have been taken. But, if you can answer it, I think it will make a lot of people feel very much more assured.DOUCHER said:only conclusion i can come to after 2 years of this originally completely incorrectly titled thread is that there was a complete change of strategy after relegation. This included 2 main changes: One was to ditch the network as a failed experiment. The other was to pretend that a takeover was imminent. Nothing else makes any sense. At this point, the pig headed will say nothing rd does makes any sense but that is because they aren't seeing through the bollox.
Are you still one hundred per cent confident that RD will have sold the club before the start of last season?
.
you seem to enjoy digging out @DOUCHER when he posts and picking up on inconsistency in his posts but don’t we all change our views as things progress (or stagnate).
E.g. @nth london addick has been an adamant “nothings happening “ since god knows when but is now firmly in the “RD won’t be here by the start of the season” camp. @DOUCHER has actually put himself out there by stating his belief as the opposite. Both would be going on info the are privy to. I don’t see the need for your hostility
Some people post what they genuinely believe to be the current situation from their - named or unnamed - sources. I don't dig them out. Other people have a more forensic, journalistic approach and post what they can, only when they can source and corroborate it; and when it doesn't break the opportunities for other journalists to break the story. I don't dig them out. Typically, many, or most, of the comments these people post turn out to be proven in the fullness of time.
But some choose to relish in revealing a bit of information simply in order to counter, gainsay or belittle what other posters have commented. Usually, nothing that these people post bears close scrutiny. For example, it's difficult to have a great deal of trust in someone stating that RD will still be the owner at the start of the 2019/20 season, having spent the whole of last summer confirming he won't be the owner at the start of the 2018/19 season.
And I don't think those people should really object too strongly if their inconsistencies are highlighted. If you think repeating something back to someone is hostile, I have to disagree, with the greatest of respect. I hope my points are taken with humour - on this thread at least, that's certainly how they're meant.
Almost everyone 'itk' has been left with egg on their face at some point, mostly down to RD, not because they are deliberately putting forward false information.
Always thought it was Chris Parkes and via him Richard Murray but not seen Doucher name either.1 -
yes and the fact this has happened either - despite the interest being there - leads me to the conclusion he isn't that interested in selling - far more rational conclusion than thathe's off his rocker - he may be trying to see how far his changed strategy can go - who knowsHenry Irving said:DOUCHER said: 13 June 2019Haven't read last few pages or been on this morning but just had a bulletin. We are nearly there I think - Bowyers and many others contracts will follow on from the takeover which I believe is at a very advanced stage with the ex Cardiff chairman - verified from inside the club. Watch this space.
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Stu_of_Kunming said:Henry Irving said:
Who is his named source @Stu_of_kumming ?Stu_of_Kunming said:
Doucher is someone, like nla who has named his source, more than once, is it really his fault if his source was misled / wrong?Chizz said:
You're right, I do.Taxi_Lad said:
@ChizzTaxi_Lad said:Chizz said:
Yes it was. Lots of times. By you.DOUCHER said:
that was what was said at the time - another reason why i have come to this conclusion nowChizz said:
Lots of people are very appreciative of the information and background you have been able to provide on this thread. So, it's worth asking you - above all people - one, specific question. Don't feel compelled to answer it if you don't want to, or if doing so breaches the confidences into which you have been taken. But, if you can answer it, I think it will make a lot of people feel very much more assured.DOUCHER said:only conclusion i can come to after 2 years of this originally completely incorrectly titled thread is that there was a complete change of strategy after relegation. This included 2 main changes: One was to ditch the network as a failed experiment. The other was to pretend that a takeover was imminent. Nothing else makes any sense. At this point, the pig headed will say nothing rd does makes any sense but that is because they aren't seeing through the bollox.
Are you still one hundred per cent confident that RD will have sold the club before the start of last season?
.
you seem to enjoy digging out @DOUCHER when he posts and picking up on inconsistency in his posts but don’t we all change our views as things progress (or stagnate).
E.g. @nth london addick has been an adamant “nothings happening “ since god knows when but is now firmly in the “RD won’t be here by the start of the season” camp. @DOUCHER has actually put himself out there by stating his belief as the opposite. Both would be going on info the are privy to. I don’t see the need for your hostility
Some people post what they genuinely believe to be the current situation from their - named or unnamed - sources. I don't dig them out. Other people have a more forensic, journalistic approach and post what they can, only when they can source and corroborate it; and when it doesn't break the opportunities for other journalists to break the story. I don't dig them out. Typically, many, or most, of the comments these people post turn out to be proven in the fullness of time.
But some choose to relish in revealing a bit of information simply in order to counter, gainsay or belittle what other posters have commented. Usually, nothing that these people post bears close scrutiny. For example, it's difficult to have a great deal of trust in someone stating that RD will still be the owner at the start of the 2019/20 season, having spent the whole of last summer confirming he won't be the owner at the start of the 2018/19 season.
And I don't think those people should really object too strongly if their inconsistencies are highlighted. If you think repeating something back to someone is hostile, I have to disagree, with the greatest of respect. I hope my points are taken with humour - on this thread at least, that's certainly how they're meant.
Almost everyone 'itk' has been left with egg on their face at some point, mostly down to RD, not because they are deliberately putting forward false information.bobmunro said:
Uncle DickyHenry Irving said:
Who is his named source @Stu_of_kumming ?Stu_of_Kunming said:
Doucher is someone, like nla who has named his source, more than once, is it really his fault if his source was misled / wrong?Chizz said:
You're right, I do.Taxi_Lad said:
@ChizzTaxi_Lad said:Chizz said:
Yes it was. Lots of times. By you.DOUCHER said:
that was what was said at the time - another reason why i have come to this conclusion nowChizz said:
Lots of people are very appreciative of the information and background you have been able to provide on this thread. So, it's worth asking you - above all people - one, specific question. Don't feel compelled to answer it if you don't want to, or if doing so breaches the confidences into which you have been taken. But, if you can answer it, I think it will make a lot of people feel very much more assured.DOUCHER said:only conclusion i can come to after 2 years of this originally completely incorrectly titled thread is that there was a complete change of strategy after relegation. This included 2 main changes: One was to ditch the network as a failed experiment. The other was to pretend that a takeover was imminent. Nothing else makes any sense. At this point, the pig headed will say nothing rd does makes any sense but that is because they aren't seeing through the bollox.
Are you still one hundred per cent confident that RD will have sold the club before the start of last season?
.
you seem to enjoy digging out @DOUCHER when he posts and picking up on inconsistency in his posts but don’t we all change our views as things progress (or stagnate).
E.g. @nth london addick has been an adamant “nothings happening “ since god knows when but is now firmly in the “RD won’t be here by the start of the season” camp. @DOUCHER has actually put himself out there by stating his belief as the opposite. Both would be going on info the are privy to. I don’t see the need for your hostility
Some people post what they genuinely believe to be the current situation from their - named or unnamed - sources. I don't dig them out. Other people have a more forensic, journalistic approach and post what they can, only when they can source and corroborate it; and when it doesn't break the opportunities for other journalists to break the story. I don't dig them out. Typically, many, or most, of the comments these people post turn out to be proven in the fullness of time.
But some choose to relish in revealing a bit of information simply in order to counter, gainsay or belittle what other posters have commented. Usually, nothing that these people post bears close scrutiny. For example, it's difficult to have a great deal of trust in someone stating that RD will still be the owner at the start of the 2019/20 season, having spent the whole of last summer confirming he won't be the owner at the start of the 2018/19 season.
And I don't think those people should really object too strongly if their inconsistencies are highlighted. If you think repeating something back to someone is hostile, I have to disagree, with the greatest of respect. I hope my points are taken with humour - on this thread at least, that's certainly how they're meant.
Almost everyone 'itk' has been left with egg on their face at some point, mostly down to RD, not because they are deliberately putting forward false information.
Ah.... that would tie in with the "mis-led" statement.
RM - a master of misdirection.0 -
I'm pretty sure I recall him naming RM before, maybe not his source for everything, but certainly a source.Henry Irving said:
So Docuher has named Richard Murray as his source? Must have missed that.Stu_of_Kunming said:Henry Irving said:
Who is his named source @Stu_of_kumming ?Stu_of_Kunming said:
Doucher is someone, like nla who has named his source, more than once, is it really his fault if his source was misled / wrong?Chizz said:
You're right, I do.Taxi_Lad said:
@ChizzTaxi_Lad said:Chizz said:
Yes it was. Lots of times. By you.DOUCHER said:
that was what was said at the time - another reason why i have come to this conclusion nowChizz said:
Lots of people are very appreciative of the information and background you have been able to provide on this thread. So, it's worth asking you - above all people - one, specific question. Don't feel compelled to answer it if you don't want to, or if doing so breaches the confidences into which you have been taken. But, if you can answer it, I think it will make a lot of people feel very much more assured.DOUCHER said:only conclusion i can come to after 2 years of this originally completely incorrectly titled thread is that there was a complete change of strategy after relegation. This included 2 main changes: One was to ditch the network as a failed experiment. The other was to pretend that a takeover was imminent. Nothing else makes any sense. At this point, the pig headed will say nothing rd does makes any sense but that is because they aren't seeing through the bollox.
Are you still one hundred per cent confident that RD will have sold the club before the start of last season?
.
you seem to enjoy digging out @DOUCHER when he posts and picking up on inconsistency in his posts but don’t we all change our views as things progress (or stagnate).
E.g. @nth london addick has been an adamant “nothings happening “ since god knows when but is now firmly in the “RD won’t be here by the start of the season” camp. @DOUCHER has actually put himself out there by stating his belief as the opposite. Both would be going on info the are privy to. I don’t see the need for your hostility
Some people post what they genuinely believe to be the current situation from their - named or unnamed - sources. I don't dig them out. Other people have a more forensic, journalistic approach and post what they can, only when they can source and corroborate it; and when it doesn't break the opportunities for other journalists to break the story. I don't dig them out. Typically, many, or most, of the comments these people post turn out to be proven in the fullness of time.
But some choose to relish in revealing a bit of information simply in order to counter, gainsay or belittle what other posters have commented. Usually, nothing that these people post bears close scrutiny. For example, it's difficult to have a great deal of trust in someone stating that RD will still be the owner at the start of the 2019/20 season, having spent the whole of last summer confirming he won't be the owner at the start of the 2018/19 season.
And I don't think those people should really object too strongly if their inconsistencies are highlighted. If you think repeating something back to someone is hostile, I have to disagree, with the greatest of respect. I hope my points are taken with humour - on this thread at least, that's certainly how they're meant.
Almost everyone 'itk' has been left with egg on their face at some point, mostly down to RD, not because they are deliberately putting forward false information.bobmunro said:
Uncle DickyHenry Irving said:
Who is his named source @Stu_of_kumming ?Stu_of_Kunming said:
Doucher is someone, like nla who has named his source, more than once, is it really his fault if his source was misled / wrong?Chizz said:
You're right, I do.Taxi_Lad said:
@ChizzTaxi_Lad said:Chizz said:
Yes it was. Lots of times. By you.DOUCHER said:
that was what was said at the time - another reason why i have come to this conclusion nowChizz said:
Lots of people are very appreciative of the information and background you have been able to provide on this thread. So, it's worth asking you - above all people - one, specific question. Don't feel compelled to answer it if you don't want to, or if doing so breaches the confidences into which you have been taken. But, if you can answer it, I think it will make a lot of people feel very much more assured.DOUCHER said:only conclusion i can come to after 2 years of this originally completely incorrectly titled thread is that there was a complete change of strategy after relegation. This included 2 main changes: One was to ditch the network as a failed experiment. The other was to pretend that a takeover was imminent. Nothing else makes any sense. At this point, the pig headed will say nothing rd does makes any sense but that is because they aren't seeing through the bollox.
Are you still one hundred per cent confident that RD will have sold the club before the start of last season?
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you seem to enjoy digging out @DOUCHER when he posts and picking up on inconsistency in his posts but don’t we all change our views as things progress (or stagnate).
E.g. @nth london addick has been an adamant “nothings happening “ since god knows when but is now firmly in the “RD won’t be here by the start of the season” camp. @DOUCHER has actually put himself out there by stating his belief as the opposite. Both would be going on info the are privy to. I don’t see the need for your hostility
Some people post what they genuinely believe to be the current situation from their - named or unnamed - sources. I don't dig them out. Other people have a more forensic, journalistic approach and post what they can, only when they can source and corroborate it; and when it doesn't break the opportunities for other journalists to break the story. I don't dig them out. Typically, many, or most, of the comments these people post turn out to be proven in the fullness of time.
But some choose to relish in revealing a bit of information simply in order to counter, gainsay or belittle what other posters have commented. Usually, nothing that these people post bears close scrutiny. For example, it's difficult to have a great deal of trust in someone stating that RD will still be the owner at the start of the 2019/20 season, having spent the whole of last summer confirming he won't be the owner at the start of the 2018/19 season.
And I don't think those people should really object too strongly if their inconsistencies are highlighted. If you think repeating something back to someone is hostile, I have to disagree, with the greatest of respect. I hope my points are taken with humour - on this thread at least, that's certainly how they're meant.
Almost everyone 'itk' has been left with egg on their face at some point, mostly down to RD, not because they are deliberately putting forward false information.
Always thought it was Chris Parkes and via him Richard Murray but not seen Doucher name either.
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no probs and you're 100% right - i never give out deliberately false information - i pass on what i know from very good sources and i also give my opinion on things which is what i've just done based on all the current info - for all i know, it could all go through tomorrow - i'd be over the moon if it did although i have to say i'd definitely want it to be dalman and not the aussiesStu_of_Kunming said:
Then I stand corrected.DOUCHER said:have never named any of my sources2 -
Has been rumoured although they have not been willing to confirm that._MrDick said:
If that’s correct, this could be one of the skeletons in the closet that’s come to light during DD?bertpalmer said:
I was told that the rugby club were suing is that correct@airman BrownAirman Brown said:http://www.votvonline.com/home/the-2018-19-blogs/9-6-ex-charlton-directors-respond-over-loan-claims/
The only people insisting on repayment of the loans (in their terms release of the charges) are the buyers, perhaps for good reasons, but the ex-directors have no such leverage.
As for the training ground my guess is that refers to the dispute with Footscray Rugby Club which I’ve reported previously. Why did Roland spend £1m on facilities on their land and a road across it, but then leave them standing unused?0 -
Roland’s new strategy will end costing him money just like all his other madcap strategies have. Any promoted team has a very high chance of getting relegated straight away and tying the managers hand by giving him a ridiculously low player budget is a sure fire way to increase the chances even further. If the stupid old Belgian can’t or won’t sell then this time next year we could easily be facing league one and all his problems come flooding back.DOUCHER said:
yes and the fact this has happened either - despite the interest being there - leads me to the conclusion he isn't that interested in selling - far more rational conclusion than thathe's off his rocker - he may be trying to see how far his changed strategy can go - who knowsHenry Irving said:DOUCHER said: 13 June 2019Haven't read last few pages or been on this morning but just had a bulletin. We are nearly there I think - Bowyers and many others contracts will follow on from the takeover which I believe is at a very advanced stage with the ex Cardiff chairman - verified from inside the club. Watch this space.
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Presumably your “very good sources” told you the club was about to be sold on June 13th - based on your post - yet now you say a takeover has never been close and it’s all a diversion, so it seems they’re not that good after all?DOUCHER said:
no probs and you're 100% right - i never give out deliberately false information - i pass on what i know from very good sources and i also give my opinion on things which is what i've just done based on all the current info - for all i know, it could all go through tomorrow - i'd be over the moon if it did although i have to say i'd definitely want it to be dalman and not the aussiesStu_of_Kunming said:
Then I stand corrected.DOUCHER said:have never named any of my sources22 -
yes but they are as good a source as you could possibly get bar speaking to roly himself - and clearly better than yours - which ain't saying a lot admittedly - you started it!!!Airman Brown said:
Presumably your “very good sources” told you the club was about to be sold on June 13th - based on your post - yet now you say a takeover has never been close and it’s all a diversion, so it seems they’re not that good after all?DOUCHER said:
no probs and you're 100% right - i never give out deliberately false information - i pass on what i know from very good sources and i also give my opinion on things which is what i've just done based on all the current info - for all i know, it could all go through tomorrow - i'd be over the moon if it did although i have to say i'd definitely want it to be dalman and not the aussiesStu_of_Kunming said:
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more than likely but i thought we'd all agreed he's more interested in experiments than enjoying what might be considered the normal rewards that might be associated with owning a football clubShootersHillGuru said:
Roland’s new strategy will end costing him money just like all his other madcap strategies have. Any promoted team has a very high chance of getting relegated straight away and tying the managers hand by giving him a ridiculously low player budget is a sure fire way to increase the chances even further. If the stupid old Belgian can’t or won’t sell then this time next year we could easily be facing league one and all his problems come flooding back.DOUCHER said:
yes and the fact this has happened either - despite the interest being there - leads me to the conclusion he isn't that interested in selling - far more rational conclusion than thathe's off his rocker - he may be trying to see how far his changed strategy can go - who knowsHenry Irving said:DOUCHER said: 13 June 2019Haven't read last few pages or been on this morning but just had a bulletin. We are nearly there I think - Bowyers and many others contracts will follow on from the takeover which I believe is at a very advanced stage with the ex Cardiff chairman - verified from inside the club. Watch this space.
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Afternoon all, I am on holiday but the weather is rubbish so I thought I had better check in, though I currently have nothing new to report re the potential new bidder I have previously mentioned. The main source has a mate who is a CL lurker and he too has heard nothing new this week. So to reiterate:
- this bidder was told that if no deal had been closed by Tues just gone, this bidder could have a two week run at it, and according to my source "exclusive".
- but we have no news as to whether that has been activated, or indeed if the bidder has taken up any invitation to activate it
- one other point, per comment earlier from @nth london addick and @JamesSeed this bidder was definitely quoted on first approach £50m plus, and this in the structure £1 for the club, £50m for The Valley, and £5m for the training ground. That however was RD's opener so it does not contradict the lower figure that James has suggested the Aussies had recently been working with
however when the source told me this pricing structure, when we met in Prague, I remember thinking and remarking that this was exactly a price and structure that I had read someone ( I wish I could recall who) quoting on CL, and several weeks before the playoffs too. I thought at the time that this indicated that the old fool had not gone for a post play-off price hike after all.
My best guess is that this bidder has not moved forward, because if they had, my source would have let me know. However there could be several reasons why they have not moved forward, including the possibility that a deal is closing with one of the other bidders. FWIW, my source, (the intermediary for the bidder) felt it was the Aussies in the driving seat. But overall, the lack of clear concrete news from any bidding camp this week does not make me feel good.24 -
Any way you can elaborate on that? Potential new owners being disappointed after we have some success is a very worrying idea and doesn’t sound good, but perhaps you’re saying RD’s side did something after the Play Off final that upset the Aussies?JamesSeed said:Put it this way, the Aussies weren't best pleased after the playoff final.0 -
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See what I mean about "gainsaying"?DOUCHER said:
yes but they are as good a source as you could possibly get bar speaking to roly himself - and clearly better than yours - which ain't saying a lot admittedly - you started it!!!Airman Brown said:
Presumably your “very good sources” told you the club was about to be sold on June 13th - based on your post - yet now you say a takeover has never been close and it’s all a diversion, so it seems they’re not that good after all?DOUCHER said:
no probs and you're 100% right - i never give out deliberately false information - i pass on what i know from very good sources and i also give my opinion on things which is what i've just done based on all the current info - for all i know, it could all go through tomorrow - i'd be over the moon if it did although i have to say i'd definitely want it to be dalman and not the aussiesStu_of_Kunming said:
Then I stand corrected.DOUCHER said:have never named any of my sources1 -
I can think of seven million reasons why they weren't pleased about the promotion.se9addick said:
Any way you can elaborate on that? Potential new owners being disappointed after we have some success is a very worrying idea and doesn’t sound good, but perhaps you’re saying RD’s side did something after the Play Off final that upset the Aussies?JamesSeed said:Put it this way, the Aussies weren't best pleased after the playoff final.2 -
That’s not really an explanation of the huge inconsistency in your posts, is it?DOUCHER said:
yes but they are as good a source as you could possibly get bar speaking to roly himself - and clearly better than yours - which ain't saying a lot admittedly - you started it!!!Airman Brown said:
Presumably your “very good sources” told you the club was about to be sold on June 13th - based on your post - yet now you say a takeover has never been close and it’s all a diversion, so it seems they’re not that good after all?DOUCHER said:
no probs and you're 100% right - i never give out deliberately false information - i pass on what i know from very good sources and i also give my opinion on things which is what i've just done based on all the current info - for all i know, it could all go through tomorrow - i'd be over the moon if it did although i have to say i'd definitely want it to be dalman and not the aussiesStu_of_Kunming said:
Then I stand corrected.DOUCHER said:have never named any of my sources
I can point to others and you can make claims about me, but my question is why were you saying it was close three weeks ago and now saying it has never been close and indeed that suggestions to the contrary were the consequence of an internal policy to mislead fans?
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I am beginning to think the only way we're going to see the back of RD now is if Bowyer pulls off a miracle and gets us to The Premier League even with the smallest budget in the league.JamesSeed said:Has any other club sale been as complicated and drawn out as this one? Even I was beginning to blame the Aussies, but now the evidence points in another direction. If Dalman walks away you have to think this could literally go on for years.
It sounds like the only way it's going to resolve the ex-directors loans if RD is forced to pay out on them - not that I blame the ex-directors one bit they are 100% entitled to all of what's owed unless any wish to settle early.
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Here is a conspiracy theory, totally made up by me. Football club £1, training ground £7 million, the Valley £50 million.PragueAddick said:Afternoon all, I am on holiday but the weather is rubbish so I thought I had better check in, though I currently have nothing new to report re the potential new bidder I have previously mentioned. The main source has a mate who is a CL lurker and he too has heard nothing new this week. So to reiterate:
- this bidder was told that if no deal had been closed by Tues just gone, this bidder could have a two week run at it, and according to my source "exclusive".
- but we have no news as to whether that has been activated, or indeed if the bidder has taken up any invitation to activate it
- one other point, per comment earlier from @nth london addick and @JamesSeed this bidder was definitely quoted on first approach £50m plus, and this in the structure £1 for the club, £50m for The Valley, and £5m for the training ground. That however was RD's opener so it does not contradict the lower figure that James has suggested the Aussies had recently been working with
however when the source told me this pricing structure, when we met in Prague, I remember thinking and remarking that this was exactly a price and structure that I had read someone ( I wish I could recall who) quoting on CL, and several weeks before the playoffs too. I thought at the time that this indicated that the old fool had not gone for a post play-off price hike after all.
My best guess is that this bidder has not moved forward, because if they had, my source would have let me know. However there could be several reasons why they have not moved forward, including the possibility that a deal is closing with one of the other bidders. FWIW, my source, (the intermediary for the bidder) felt it was the Aussies in the driving seat. But overall, the lack of clear concrete news from any bidding camp this week does not make me feel good.
Up front purchase price £7,000,001. Ex directors loans paid off, get the club and the training ground. £50 million in installments secured against the Valley, of which Roland owns 100% clear title?
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