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England Cricket Team Summer 2019 -ICC World Cup and Ashes etc

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  • Briston_Addick
    Briston_Addick Posts: 11,677

  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,669
    blackpool72 said:
    Still think we will win.
    Curran to the rescue 
    I thank you 
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,934
    blackpool72 said:
    blackpool72 said:
    Still think we will win.
    Curran to the rescue 
    I thank you 
    That aged well...... :smile:

    Idiotic from Curran
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,669
    blackpool72 said:
    blackpool72 said:
    Still think we will win.
    Curran to the rescue 
    I thank you 
    Shut up Blackpool you mug 
  • McBobbin
    McBobbin Posts: 12,051
    Bumble made the point, why we're we trying to whack out way out of trouble? Our night Watchman didn't and scored 92. This is only day two hang around ffs
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,881
    blackpool72 said:
    Bairstow reviews far more than he should. Root was at the other end and should have told him to walk. 
    And don’t stop walking until you're back on the county circuit
  • PaddyP17
    PaddyP17 Posts: 13,035
    Whatever the score ends up being, this is already going to be difficult to chase. Ireland will be heavily reliant on their top order, so if a couple of wickets fall early, England are well in with a shout.

    I said yesterday the tail starts at about seven and I really do think that's the case.
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,669
    PaddyP17 said:
    Whatever the score ends up being, this is already going to be difficult to chase. Ireland will be heavily reliant on their top order, so if a couple of wickets fall early, England are well in with a shout.

    I said yesterday the tail starts at about seven and I really do think that's the case.
    The Ireland tail waged yesterday. 
    No 9 and 10 both got into double figures. 

    I ain't falling for yer  trickery  again  paddy .
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,651
    PaddyP17 said:
    Whatever the score ends up being, this is already going to be difficult to chase. Ireland will be heavily reliant on their top order, so if a couple of wickets fall early, England are well in with a shout.

    I said yesterday the tail starts at about seven and I really do think that's the case.
    180 is not a lot with two days to go. Ireland's to lose as I said above.
  • Briston_Addick
    Briston_Addick Posts: 11,677
    LenGlover said:
    PaddyP17 said:
    Whatever the score ends up being, this is already going to be difficult to chase. Ireland will be heavily reliant on their top order, so if a couple of wickets fall early, England are well in with a shout.

    I said yesterday the tail starts at about seven and I really do think that's the case.
    180 is not a lot with two days to go. Ireland's to lose as I said above.


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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,844
    The Umpires clearly don't enjoy thunder and lightning!
  • PaddyP17
    PaddyP17 Posts: 13,035
    killerandflash said:
    The Umpires clearly don't enjoy thunder and lightning!
    Very very frightening indeed!
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,990
    Briston_Addick said:
    LenGlover said:
    PaddyP17 said:
    Whatever the score ends up being, this is already going to be difficult to chase. Ireland will be heavily reliant on their top order, so if a couple of wickets fall early, England are well in with a shout.

    I said yesterday the tail starts at about seven and I really do think that's the case.
    180 is not a lot with two days to go. Ireland's to lose as I said above.


    Yes, but they will be batting on day 3 not day 5. 
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,617
  • Briston_Addick
    Briston_Addick Posts: 11,677
    Covered End said:
    Briston_Addick said:
    LenGlover said:
    PaddyP17 said:
    Whatever the score ends up being, this is already going to be difficult to chase. Ireland will be heavily reliant on their top order, so if a couple of wickets fall early, England are well in with a shout.

    I said yesterday the tail starts at about seven and I really do think that's the case.
    180 is not a lot with two days to go. Ireland's to lose as I said above.


    Yes, but they will be batting on day 3 not day 5. 
    Maybe not, but factor in the pressure of chasing a target and chasing Ireland's first ever Test victory.
  • Clontarf65
    Clontarf65 Posts: 16
    Target probably just out of reach for us.But we love a challenge.Dont forget this is only our third ever Test match.COYA.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    edited July 2019
    So who’s getting dropped for Stokes, Buttler, Foakes and Anderson?

    I’m thinking we will see Leach, Stone, Bairstow and Woakes/Curran drop out. Maybe both Woakes and Curran if they are insistent on playing Archer but I don’t think that will happen.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    Maybe Foakes in for Bairstow is a bit more wishful thinking on my part but it’s been a while since he’s been in any kind of decent Test match form.

    Great ODI opener, not at all good in the middle order in a Test match.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    My team is/would be:

    1 Burns
    2 Roy
    3 Denly
    4 Root
    5 Stokes
    6 Buttler
    7 Foakes
    8 Moeen
    9 Woakes
    10 Broad
    11 Anderson
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,625
    I  picked my 11 on the BBC cricket page yesterday. Cant remember exactly but  I think I went with......

    Roy
    Gubbins
    Denly
    Root
    Stokes
    Bairstow 
    Buttler
    Woakes
    Broad 
    Anderson
    Archer


    I think I should have gone with 11 Leech's. 
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  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,145

    Never looked as dark as that tweet 
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,881

    1 Sibley

    2 Roy

    3 denly

    4 root

    5 northeast

    6 Stoakes 

    7 butler

    8 archer

    9 leach

    10 broad

    11 Anderson 

  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,844
    Callumcafc said:
    So who’s getting dropped for Stokes, Buttler, Foakes and Anderson?

    I’m thinking we will see Leach, Stone, Bairstow and Woakes/Curran drop out. Maybe both Woakes and Curran if they are insistent on playing Archer but I don’t think that will happen.
    The first player I'd be dropping is Burns who's looked hopeless in this match. Unfortunately that's in the position where we don't have a replacement!
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    England have got themselves in a right selection mess, and this goes back to India last summer.  They tried to be to clever, got away with it because they had Anderson, won helpfull tosses and scored important lower order runs.  It worked in Sri Lanker but was a right mess for the first 2 tests in West indies and this match.

    Root is the main problem IMO.  Won't bat at 3, won't tell Bairstow what to do, always wants 1 to many bowling options.  To pick 6 bowlers for this test match is criminal.

    The irony is that the player that benifits most for this mismatch selection is the one that's played the best, that makes it very harsh to drop him. 
  • Sir Chrissy
    Sir Chrissy Posts: 609
    They won't drop Bairstow, he's far too precious for that. Add to the fact when he gets negative press he does tend to deliver as he did in the World Cup. Being a Surrey fan I am biased in that I would want Foakes and Curren in my England team but I don't know how you fit them in. Curren has been in great form in the CC in a poor Surrey side this year and proving again how valuable his runs are down the order as time and again our top order fails. There is a reason why he was player of the series last year v India.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Sir Chrissy said:
    They won't drop Bairstow, he's far too precious for that. Add to the fact when he gets negative press he does tend to deliver as he did in the World Cup. Being a Surrey fan I am biased in that I would want Foakes and Curren in my England team but I don't know how you fit them in. Curren has been in great form in the CC in a poor Surrey side this year and proving again how valuable his runs are down the order as time and again our top order fails. There is a reason why he was player of the series last year v India.
    Curren has played really well almost every time he has played for England, which is more than can be said for most.  Saying that he isn't one of England's best 4 seamers.  You can't keep picking him jist because the top order keep failing.  The reason they are failing is because they are getting the selection wrong time and again.  Wrong people, wrong order.   The balance is totally wrong. 
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,331
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Sir Chrissy said:
    They won't drop Bairstow, he's far too precious for that. Add to the fact when he gets negative press he does tend to deliver as he did in the World Cup. Being a Surrey fan I am biased in that I would want Foakes and Curren in my England team but I don't know how you fit them in. Curren has been in great form in the CC in a poor Surrey side this year and proving again how valuable his runs are down the order as time and again our top order fails. There is a reason why he was player of the series last year v India.
    Curren has played really well almost every time he has played for England, which is more than can be said for most.  Saying that he isn't one of England's best 4 seamers.  You can't keep picking him jist because the top order keep failing.  The reason they are failing is because they are getting the selection wrong time and again.  Wrong people, wrong order.   The balance is totally wrong. 
    What eleven would you pick for next week?
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,669
    Foakes over Bairstow all day long in the test side.
    Root must bat at 3 allowing Roy to play at 4.
    As for the two opening batsman I haven't got a clue. None are really good enough. 
  • Johnnysummers5
    Johnnysummers5 Posts: 8,469

    I have no idea who to pick for the Ashes first test.

    I will stick to picking my nose at the moment.

  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Chizz said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Sir Chrissy said:
    They won't drop Bairstow, he's far too precious for that. Add to the fact when he gets negative press he does tend to deliver as he did in the World Cup. Being a Surrey fan I am biased in that I would want Foakes and Curren in my England team but I don't know how you fit them in. Curren has been in great form in the CC in a poor Surrey side this year and proving again how valuable his runs are down the order as time and again our top order fails. There is a reason why he was player of the series last year v India.
    Curren has played really well almost every time he has played for England, which is more than can be said for most.  Saying that he isn't one of England's best 4 seamers.  You can't keep picking him jist because the top order keep failing.  The reason they are failing is because they are getting the selection wrong time and again.  Wrong people, wrong order.   The balance is totally wrong. 
    What eleven would you pick for next week?
    On the assumption they are all fit and Stokes can't or won't be able to bowl the 4th seamers overs. 

    Burns or Denly 
    Roy
    Root.
    Bairstow 
    Stokes
    Foakes (w) 
    Woakes
    Ali
    Archer. 
    Broad
    Anderson

    It's still not perfect, if Stokes could bowl as the 4th seamer I would leave out a seamer and pick a batsman. 

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