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Bowyer Talks - Weekly press conference updates
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Why do you say that, something you've heard ?Gravesend_Addick said:Very honest press conference from Bowyer . Sounds like Taylor wanted the move, so he'll take a bit of man management now.
I think Bowyer is as surprised as the rest of us that we managed to get Kayal
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Who said he did ?DoctorCharlton said:You know what, if Taylor really wanted to go then maybe it would've been best for him to go.
If he doesn't get his head down it could be problems. I just hope he doesn't create a bad atmosphere in the team because of this, that would be more of a disaster than him leaving.0 -
the last 2 posts on here just goes to show the problem with social media. Will soon be all over twitter that Taylor wanted to go / has a bad attitude / should have got rid...........when nothing of the sort has been said.
For all we know Taylor might have turned down any move anyway.
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I think he is more pissed off that we didn’t offer him a better deal......or maybe we have?charltonbob said:
Who said he did ?DoctorCharlton said:You know what, if Taylor really wanted to go then maybe it would've been best for him to go.
If he doesn't get his head down it could be problems. I just hope he doesn't create a bad atmosphere in the team because of this, that would be more of a disaster than him leaving.
I also don’t think he will cause problems, why should he, there’s nothing to gain by it and from what little I know of him he’ll still put his heart and soul into his performances.
An intelligent fella is our Lyle, he’s unlikely to shit on his own doorstep, even if he is pissed off somewhat.1 -
I think people were more pissed off at the fact he apparently refused to train and had a bust up with Bowyer, which probably wasn't true
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charltonbob said:
Why do you say that, something you've heard ?Gravesend_Addick said:Very honest press conference from Bowyer . Sounds like Taylor wanted the move, so he'll take a bit of man management now.
I think Bowyer is as surprised as the rest of us that we managed to get Kayalcharltonbob said:
Who said he did ?DoctorCharlton said:You know what, if Taylor really wanted to go then maybe it would've been best for him to go.
If he doesn't get his head down it could be problems. I just hope he doesn't create a bad atmosphere in the team because of this, that would be more of a disaster than him leaving.
The bloke who delivers the sausage rolls for matchday told me.
No, in all seriousness:
LB ''I took a step back when Brentford came in for Lyle. It's something you can't control. I respected that it was a move that could change his life''
LB ''He was disappointed that things didn't quite go a certain way, but he knew the situation that was going on and is ready to get his head down''
That to me sounded like he was disappointed he didnt get the chance to talk to brentford, maybe I'm wrong but that's how I interpreted it.
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But the last offer was a few mins before 5pm. We couldn’t possibly have got a replacement sorted. Hemed coming in wasn’t designed to be a replacement for Taylor - it’s was in addition to.DoctorCharlton said:You know what, if Taylor really wanted to go then maybe it would've been best for him to go.
If he doesn't get his head down it could be problems. I just hope he doesn't create a bad atmosphere in the team because of this, that would be more of a disaster than him leaving.
Im sure Taylor will get a bit of love from the fans tomorrow and it will all be forgotten about.
One thing is for sure - Bowyer won’t tolerate a sulker.3 -
The fact that Bowyer thought Brentford's last offer would secure the deal indicates that Taylor was willing to move. Players under contract can not be transferred against their will. Bowyer says Duchatelet said No to the transfer, not Taylor.golfaddick said:the last 2 posts on here just goes to show the problem with social media. Will soon be all over twitter that Taylor wanted to go / has a bad attitude / should have got rid...........when nothing of the sort has been said.
For all we know Taylor might have turned down any move anyway.
When news broke that Brentford were bidding, the usual vile abuse directed at Duchatelet erupted on this forum. The abusers completely misunderstood the situation: Duchatelet turned down around £5m for the sake of the club.9 -
for the sake of his sale of the club at anything like his valuation more likely, at least he listened it seemsViewfinder said:
The fact that Bowyer thought Brentford's last offer would secure the deal indicates that Taylor was willing to move. Players under contract can not be transferred against their will. Bowyer says Duchatelet said No to the transfer, not Taylor.golfaddick said:the last 2 posts on here just goes to show the problem with social media. Will soon be all over twitter that Taylor wanted to go / has a bad attitude / should have got rid...........when nothing of the sort has been said.
For all we know Taylor might have turned down any move anyway.
When news broke that Brentford were bidding, the usual vile abuse directed at Duchatelet erupted on this forum. The abusers completely misunderstood the situation: Duchatelet turned down around £5m for the sake of the club.4 - Sponsored links:
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One thing I'd also mention is that could be a misinterpretation. We rejected the offer with 2 minutes to go, it doesnt say it was lodged with 2 minutes to go.ricky_otto said:
But the last offer was a few mins before 5pm. We couldn’t possibly have got a replacement sorted. Hemed coming in wasn’t designed to be a replacement for Taylor - it’s was in addition to.DoctorCharlton said:You know what, if Taylor really wanted to go then maybe it would've been best for him to go.
If he doesn't get his head down it could be problems. I just hope he doesn't create a bad atmosphere in the team because of this, that would be more of a disaster than him leaving.
Its quite possible that the Peterborough stuff was approached when the offer was made with the intention that if we can get a replacement he goes.
As we didn't get a replacement with 2 minutes to go, the deal was rejected.
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The dynamics will change in the relationship between Lyle and some Cafc fans. The Majority who understand the politics of football know that the Toney/Taylor situation has been replicated at every club for years. They both happen or nothing happens. Is Toney gutted he didn't get a wage increase and a move to the Championship ?
Stephens not going South to Villa when the spivs got greedy yet Dale got his head down despite the Doubling or trebling of the wages not happening until he got the move to the far north at Brighton.
I had an interesting chat with Rhoys Wiggins about the politics of football at the Donny home game before and at half time when we sat next to each other. The players take is so different to the fans views obviously. When offered a decent well paid contract they sign and when the club want rid because of injury or loss of form they engineer a situation. This will happen at every club despite the Bosman ruling, which means the top earners can train and refuse to go anywhere until they want but they may end up training with the kids or become persona non Grata. A compromise normally occurs
I hope the Taylor situation has a happy ending for Lyle and the fans because Taylor should be the top earners by far at this club and if I was the owner, Igor's wages of 7k a week would've gone straight to the wages Taylor was already on.
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Unless Taylor does exceptionally well before January, I cannot see Brentford coming in for him, they were desperate for a striker and could not get another one so they did to us what we did with Parker, he will have to do until we get someone better. When January comes around they will have had enough time to find and set up a deal with a club for a younger striker with potential.2
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Jeez the world is a strange place when a move to Brentford from Charlton is seen as one that could change your life. Hopefully with this good window and Bow, Jacko and Gallen around we can start getting our club back to where it used to be. Plus Roland selling up too of course!4
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Brentford are trying to do to us what we did to Bournemouth a few years ago, when we took good players from them and look where both clubs are now
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Sounds like it to me as well :-) I hadn't seen those comments but LB goes on to say "is ready to get his head down" so disappointed maybe but is (hopefully) going to be professional about it & get on with his job.DoctorCharlton said:charltonbob said:
Why do you say that, something you've heard ?Gravesend_Addick said:Very honest press conference from Bowyer . Sounds like Taylor wanted the move, so he'll take a bit of man management now.
I think Bowyer is as surprised as the rest of us that we managed to get Kayalcharltonbob said:
Who said he did ?DoctorCharlton said:You know what, if Taylor really wanted to go then maybe it would've been best for him to go.
If he doesn't get his head down it could be problems. I just hope he doesn't create a bad atmosphere in the team because of this, that would be more of a disaster than him leaving.
The bloke who delivers the sausage rolls for matchday told me.
No, in all seriousness:
LB ''I took a step back when Brentford came in for Lyle. It's something you can't control. I respected that it was a move that could change his life''
LB ''He was disappointed that things didn't quite go a certain way, but he knew the situation that was going on and is ready to get his head down''
That to me sounded like he was disappointed he didnt get the chance to talk to brentford, maybe I'm wrong but that's how I interpreted it.1 -
Really Mr C.....that’s pushing it I’d say.Viewfinder said:
The fact that Bowyer thought Brentford's last offer would secure the deal indicates that Taylor was willing to move. Players under contract can not be transferred against their will. Bowyer says Duchatelet said No to the transfer, not Taylor.golfaddick said:the last 2 posts on here just goes to show the problem with social media. Will soon be all over twitter that Taylor wanted to go / has a bad attitude / should have got rid...........when nothing of the sort has been said.
For all we know Taylor might have turned down any move anyway.
When news broke that Brentford were bidding, the usual vile abuse directed at Duchatelet erupted on this forum. The abusers completely misunderstood the situation: Duchatelet turned down around £5m for the sake of the club.0 -
I'll have a consonant please @SoundAsa£SoundAsa£ said:
Really Mr C.....that’s pushing it I’d say.Viewfinder said:
The fact that Bowyer thought Brentford's last offer would secure the deal indicates that Taylor was willing to move. Players under contract can not be transferred against their will. Bowyer says Duchatelet said No to the transfer, not Taylor.golfaddick said:the last 2 posts on here just goes to show the problem with social media. Will soon be all over twitter that Taylor wanted to go / has a bad attitude / should have got rid...........when nothing of the sort has been said.
For all we know Taylor might have turned down any move anyway.
When news broke that Brentford were bidding, the usual vile abuse directed at Duchatelet erupted on this forum. The abusers completely misunderstood the situation: Duchatelet turned down around £5m for the sake of the club.
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Yes indeed, Razil. Duchatelet knows that nothing like £5m will be offered in the winter window, and next summer Taylor could walk for free.razil said:
for the sake of his sale of the club at anything like his valuation more likely, at least he listened it seemsViewfinder said:
The fact that Bowyer thought Brentford's last offer would secure the deal indicates that Taylor was willing to move. Players under contract can not be transferred against their will. Bowyer says Duchatelet said No to the transfer, not Taylor.golfaddick said:the last 2 posts on here just goes to show the problem with social media. Will soon be all over twitter that Taylor wanted to go / has a bad attitude / should have got rid...........when nothing of the sort has been said.
For all we know Taylor might have turned down any move anyway.
When news broke that Brentford were bidding, the usual vile abuse directed at Duchatelet erupted on this forum. The abusers completely misunderstood the situation: Duchatelet turned down around £5m for the sake of the club.0 -
Are we ignoring that some of the way he wanted it to go could have been a pay rise or a move?razil said:0 - Sponsored links:
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Ready made excuseViewfinder said:
Yes indeed, Razil. Duchatelet knows that nothing like £5m will be offered in the winter window, and next summer Taylor could walk for free.razil said:
for the sake of his sale of the club at anything like his valuation more likely, at least he listened it seemsViewfinder said:
The fact that Bowyer thought Brentford's last offer would secure the deal indicates that Taylor was willing to move. Players under contract can not be transferred against their will. Bowyer says Duchatelet said No to the transfer, not Taylor.golfaddick said:the last 2 posts on here just goes to show the problem with social media. Will soon be all over twitter that Taylor wanted to go / has a bad attitude / should have got rid...........when nothing of the sort has been said.
For all we know Taylor might have turned down any move anyway.
When news broke that Brentford were bidding, the usual vile abuse directed at Duchatelet erupted on this forum. The abusers completely misunderstood the situation: Duchatelet turned down around £5m for the sake of the club.
"We lost X million this season because nobody bought Taylor... Why didn't the EFL buy Taylor in January? Huh, they stopped anyone buying the club"1 -
thanks for all the updates @ForeverAddickted .. if the mountain won't come to Hemed, then Hemed must go to the mountain (Arabian saying) ((:>)ForeverAddickted said:LB: “It’s crazy, we’ve got all these players in through the door, but we just missed out on two more so we were disappointed. But looking at the squad on the board today from this time last week, it’s completely different." #cafc
So is that Hemed confirmed as not happening?ForeverAddickted said:LB: “It’s crazy, we’ve got all these players in through the door, but we just missed out on two more so we were disappointed. But looking at the squad on the board today from this time last week, it’s completely different." #cafc
So is that Hemed confirmed as not happening?
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Listening to LB press conference, says we were after two more but didn't quite get them done and then when asked he said yes we put a bid for Toney but he was NOT one of the two we just missed out on!! So we wanted Toney + 2 others (no names given) and Hamed, at the time of press conference, he was confident of getting. So from that it seems we wanted Toney, Hamed + 2 who we just missed out on, is that correct?0
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Am pleased 'RD said no' to the offer for Taylor, if that is what happened. Complete sense of course but none of us would have been surprised if he had sold him and pocketed the money. Maybe other situations influenced the deal? Whatever, even if the move made was what Lyle wanted re the money etc - I think there is a bit more to him that just money, but then again if RD is only prepared to pay Div One prices who can blame him? But I think he is too professional and committed to Charlton to not give us 100%. LB won't tolerate anything else!0
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Maybe Brentford won’t but at the end of Jan there will be more than one club desperate for a striker to make the auto’s/play offs or just beat relegation. As long as he has an ok 5 months he will be in demand and be able to get a substantial pay rise if we will sell then. If we hold tight again he will get a large signing on fee somewhere and decent pay so the next couple of years look bright for Taylorross1 said:Unless Taylor does exceptionally well before January, I cannot see Brentford coming in for him, they were desperate for a striker and could not get another one so they did to us what we did with Parker, he will have to do until we get someone better. When January comes around they will have had enough time to find and set up a deal with a club for a younger striker with potential.1 -
Brentford have agreed to buy a striker from Turkey, (I believe) and will join them in January, as I said earlier0
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This is Brentford now, not Brentford then. They’re a club on the up at the moment.AllHailTheHen said:Jeez the world is a strange place when a move to Brentford from Charlton is seen as one that could change your life. Hopefully with this good window and Bow, Jacko and Gallen around we can start getting our club back to where it used to be. Plus Roland selling up too of course!0 -
They've had their day in the sun in the 1930s and 40s, when they were in the top tier First Division.JamesSeed said:
This is Brentford now, not Brentford then. They’re a club on the up at the moment.AllHailTheHen said:Jeez the world is a strange place when a move to Brentford from Charlton is seen as one that could change your life. Hopefully with this good window and Bow, Jacko and Gallen around we can start getting our club back to where it used to be. Plus Roland selling up too of course!
During the first half of their history, Brentford had a lot of parallels with Charlton.
Like Charlton at the time, they were having their own metoric rise from Third Division to First Division, albeit they took an extra season to do it, finishing 4th in Div 2. The next year they were promoted again; then finishing 5th in the First Division and 6th the year after. In 1938-39 season they were top of the League for 17 matches but fell away in the final run in. They were relegated from the First Division in 1947.
They never won the FA Cup though.
Like we had Jimmy Seed to mastermind our own success, they had their own legendary manager, Harry Curtis (known as the Guv'nor) who inspired Brentford in their halcyon period.
Always good to find out a little football history. I find it gives a sense of perspective.
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We wanted Mark Duffy so possibly one of the 2 along with a right back.Redmidland said:Listening to LB press conference, says we were after two more but didn't quite get them done and then when asked he said yes we put a bid for Toney but he was NOT one of the two we just missed out on!! So we wanted Toney + 2 others (no names given) and Hamed, at the time of press conference, he was confident of getting. So from that it seems we wanted Toney, Hamed + 2 who we just missed out on, is that correct?0 -
💬LB: "Saturday will be tough. They got a good home win against Fulham. We have to respect them because they finished above us last year. It will be tough, like every game, but if we apply ourselves the right way & compete, then hopefully we get the result that we want." #cafc
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