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ESI own The Valley and have a commitment to buy the training ground within 6 months hmmmmmmmm
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Only £15m? Jumpers for goalposts money.ValleyGary said:There ya go then. £15m set to be invested in the training ground, plenty of money. Everyone needs to chill.2 -
Why have they announced the £15m
all the filthy builders , electricians , plumbers etc of South London rubbing their grubby robbing hands together ready to stitch em up when they look for a quote3 -
wowoohaahmortimer said:Why have they announced the £15m
all the filthy builders , electricians , plumbers etc of South London rubbing their grubby robbing hands together ready to stitch em up when they look for a quote2 -
I’m pretty sure there’s nothing to see here. If the only way to buy the club at the beginning of the transfer window meant delaying the purchase of the training ground for a few months, then fine.4
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Backtrack, backtrack : - )i_b_b_o_r_g said:
I'm not offended by it at all mate, I just think it's a bit embarrassing for your good selfHenry Irving said:
Snowflake alerti_b_b_o_r_g said:
I know, I saw it, but when it's on virtually every thread? Smiley face or notPragueAddick said:
Oh, come on, mate. I'm not always his biggest fan (and vice-versa) but he put the smiley there. He was joshing.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Who laughed? This constant who guessed right and who guessed wrong is nauseatingHenry Irving said:You all laughed at the six questions.
Not laughing now are you? : - )
1 Who owns the club?
2 What's the business plan?
3 How is the plan being funded?
4 What are the plans for the Valley?
5 What are the plans for the training ground?
6 What's the exit strategy?
There maybe many positive reasons why Sparrows Lane hasn't been purchased yet IE a wish to submit a different planning application perhaps with links to multi million grant funding that RD dismissed, perhaps a dispute over the rugby club to be resolved.
There are also more negative ways to view it. No money, a property play, make your guesses here.
The way it has been released into the public domain, tagged on to a "bigger" story (not so IMHO) about Taylor does not instill confidence.
It does, perhaps, answer the question about why the completion of the takeover took longer than many expected.
But the six questions themselves are not joshing. They are absolutely fundamental, and bear constant repetition because people lose sight of them and get lost in detail, rumour, and conspiracy theories.1 -
I’ll do the whole lot for £14moohaahmortimer said:Why have they announced the £15m
all the filthy builders , electricians , plumbers etc of South London rubbing their grubby robbing hands together ready to stitch em up when they look for a quote7 -
yep, he is starting to get on my tits with this sort of stuffWSS said:And there we go. Rich could have just put that in the article!
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which doesn't actually exist at present does it?Chizz said:Just a quick reminder to anyone who might think that the training ground isn't intrinsically linked to the history of the club or who might think that the club can very simply up sticks and train somewhere else: Sparrows Lane doesn't just comprise training pitches, offices, changing rooms and a car park, it's also the site of the memorial to Pierre Bolangi. That cannot and must not be overlooked.
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It’s click bait . Who many hits do you think he got before he cleared up the confusion?LargeAddick said:
yep, he is starting to get on my tits with this sort of stuffWSS said:And there we go. Rich could have just put that in the article!2 - Sponsored links:
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Because it's worth doing our own due diligence to ensure we know as much as we possibly can about our ownership. This £15m is great, sure. I'm very happy with that, on the surface.RedManS said:Why can we all not just be happy? They have committed to invest a further 15mil on the training facilities. We know why they haven't brought it right now as this would of taken us past January & the transfer window. Lets all stop being detectives & just enjoy the fact Roland is gone! Now to sell out Saturday & show the new owners what a fantastic club they have brought!!!
But the questions do remain - why did this not get said straight away? Why are we only told this after we are first told the training ground hasn't yet been bought, with no further detail furnished?
I like Matt Southall. I like HE Tahnoon Nimer having fun on Instagram. I know nothing about Heller but let's assume he's a decent sort. But with our prior history of owners, we'd be silly not to look into everything we possibly can.
The same goes for politics, or an insurance policy, or buying a car, and so on.
The government can promise X new jobs/nurses/police officers, but how is that realised?
You might have low insurance premiums, but what's the excess, or any other sneaky charges?
The car might be reasonably priced, but what's really under the bonnet?
And - ESI have said all the right things, but what's the exact nature of the deal to take over and run the Club all of us hold so dear?10 -
At risk of starting another hysterical outburst of worrying..........
15 million houses and flats doesn’t seem a lot. 😂😂😂3 -
You have just spouted a load of nonsense in my opinion.PaddyP17 said:
Because it's worth doing our own due diligence to ensure we know as much as we possibly can about our ownership. This £15m is great, sure. I'm very happy with that, on the surface.RedManS said:Why can we all not just be happy? They have committed to invest a further 15mil on the training facilities. We know why they haven't brought it right now as this would of taken us past January & the transfer window. Lets all stop being detectives & just enjoy the fact Roland is gone! Now to sell out Saturday & show the new owners what a fantastic club they have brought!!!
But the questions do remain - why did this not get said straight away? Why are we only told this after we are first told the training ground hasn't yet been bought, with no further detail furnished?
I like Matt Southall. I like HE Tahnoon Nimer having fun on Instagram. I know nothing about Heller but let's assume he's a decent sort. But with our prior history of owners, we'd be silly not to look into everything we possibly can.
The same goes for politics, or an insurance policy, or buying a car, and so on.
The government can promise X new jobs/nurses/police officers, but how is that realised?
You might have low insurance premiums, but what's the excess, or any other sneaky charges?
The car might be reasonably priced, but what's really under the bonnet?
And - ESI have said all the right things, but what's the exact nature of the deal to take over and run the Club all of us hold so dear?
This has come from Richard Cawley, he is a journalist, he knew exactly what he was doing. The same way as he knew what he was doing when he 'forgot' to mention Taylor actually turned down the contract instead of not responding. They have a binding contract to buy SL within 6 months.
Not even been in the job a week & people are already panicking.... Lets see what the interview with Southall later advises.
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Seriously lads and lasses - chill !
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And then more clicks when he posts the full infoBedsaddick said:
It’s click bait . Who many hits do you think he got before he cleared up the confusion?LargeAddick said:
yep, he is starting to get on my tits with this sort of stuffWSS said:And there we go. Rich could have just put that in the article!1 -
did I read somewhere that EFL would be upfront and honest and aim to communicate better with fans!
Not a great start, this all should have come out day one of takeover before people invested in half season tickets.
Smacks of slippery to me.8 -
I mean you may disagree that we need to do it - and if so, fine - but in what way is advocating for research and due diligence a "nonsense" take?RedManS said:
You have just spouted a load of nonsense in my opinion.PaddyP17 said:
Because it's worth doing our own due diligence to ensure we know as much as we possibly can about our ownership. This £15m is great, sure. I'm very happy with that, on the surface.RedManS said:Why can we all not just be happy? They have committed to invest a further 15mil on the training facilities. We know why they haven't brought it right now as this would of taken us past January & the transfer window. Lets all stop being detectives & just enjoy the fact Roland is gone! Now to sell out Saturday & show the new owners what a fantastic club they have brought!!!
But the questions do remain - why did this not get said straight away? Why are we only told this after we are first told the training ground hasn't yet been bought, with no further detail furnished?
I like Matt Southall. I like HE Tahnoon Nimer having fun on Instagram. I know nothing about Heller but let's assume he's a decent sort. But with our prior history of owners, we'd be silly not to look into everything we possibly can.
The same goes for politics, or an insurance policy, or buying a car, and so on.
The government can promise X new jobs/nurses/police officers, but how is that realised?
You might have low insurance premiums, but what's the excess, or any other sneaky charges?
The car might be reasonably priced, but what's really under the bonnet?
And - ESI have said all the right things, but what's the exact nature of the deal to take over and run the Club all of us hold so dear?
This has come from Richard Cawley, he is a journalist, he knew exactly what he was doing. The same way as he knew what he was doing when he 'forgot' to mention Taylor actually turned down the contract instead of not responding. They have a binding contract to buy SL within 6 months.
Not even been in the job a week & people are already panicking.... Lets see what the interview with Southall later advises.
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Hartleypete said:did I read somewhere that EFL would be upfront and honest and aim to communicate better with fans!
Not a great start, this all should have come out day one of takeover before people invested in half season tickets.
Smacks of slippery to me.
If the reasons given are true then it smacks of sound commercial expediency to me.
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Im sure some people get off from being negative & moaning about anything they can.
We have literally just got rid of the worst owner in our history & some people still want to be negative about the whole situation.
ESI could give away £1000 to each season ticket holder & some people on here would still moan!!
Just enjoy the fact we actually have an engaging chairman & an owner which is actually going to invest ffs.
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And relax !
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What do you want them to do publish every detail?Hartleypete said:did I read somewhere that EFL would be upfront and honest and aim to communicate better with fans!
Not a great start, this all should have come out day one of takeover before people invested in half season tickets.
Smacks of slippery to me.
Its been cleared up the reason why and it makes sense. unless you would of prefered they dealt with SL and missed out supporting LB in January.
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I don't think people get off on being negative, I think we've literally just got rid of the worst owner in our history and itll take some time for people to get off the defensive.RedManS said:Im sure some people get off from being negative & moaning about anything they can.
We have literally just got rid of the worst owner in our history & some people still want to be negative about the whole situation.
ESI could give away £1000 to each season ticket holder & some people on here would still moan!!
Just enjoy the fact we actually have an engaging chairman & an owner which is actually going to invest ffs.
We're used to assuming the worst and reality still being somehow shitter, that mindset won't change over night.9 -
Why only £1,000?RedManS said:Im sure some people get off from being negative & moaning about anything they can.
We have literally just got rid of the worst owner in our history & some people still want to be negative about the whole situation.
ESI could give away £1000 to each season ticket holder & some people on here would still moan!!
Just enjoy the fact we actually have an engaging chairman & an owner which is actually going to invest ffs.
If they can afford £15m on the training ground and £50m on buying the club it sounds to me like they're almost out of cash already14 -
Once bitten, twice shy.RedManS said:Im sure some people get off from being negative & moaning about anything they can.
We have literally just got rid of the worst owner in our history & some people still want to be negative about the whole situation.
ESI could give away £1000 to each season ticket holder & some people on here would still moan!!
Just enjoy the fact we actually have an engaging chairman & an owner which is actually going to invest ffs.1 -
It's all fun and games and not like he's waited days to clarify. Much rather have a journo like him who we know provides reliable information.LargeAddick said:
yep, he is starting to get on my tits with this sort of stuffWSS said:And there we go. Rich could have just put that in the article!1 -
To be honest I think it says more about the fans who have absolute meltdowns without thinking then Cawley himself.Talal said:
It's all fun and games and not like he's waited days to clarify. Much rather have a journo like him who we know provides reliable information.LargeAddick said:
yep, he is starting to get on my tits with this sort of stuffWSS said:And there we go. Rich could have just put that in the article!6 -
Rich Cawley maybe has an editor or an editorial team that cut and rearrange his articles on occasions so not sure he can be fully blamed for what does or does not make the final copy in all instances.6
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It does exist but has fallen into a rather poor state over the last few years.LargeAddick said:
which doesn't actually exist at present does it?Chizz said:Just a quick reminder to anyone who might think that the training ground isn't intrinsically linked to the history of the club or who might think that the club can very simply up sticks and train somewhere else: Sparrows Lane doesn't just comprise training pitches, offices, changing rooms and a car park, it's also the site of the memorial to Pierre Bolangi. That cannot and must not be overlooked.
Evidently plans are afoot to reinstate it.0 -
If you include the last Murray regime and the Spivs it's thrice bitten.WSS said:
Once bitten, twice shy.RedManS said:Im sure some people get off from being negative & moaning about anything they can.
We have literally just got rid of the worst owner in our history & some people still want to be negative about the whole situation.
ESI could give away £1000 to each season ticket holder & some people on here would still moan!!
Just enjoy the fact we actually have an engaging chairman & an owner which is actually going to invest ffs.
I'm very positive about the takeover but that doesn't mean I don't want more information and more clarity. We have an interview on the OS soon so hope we'll know more then.14
