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January 2020 transfer rumours thread (Deadline Day starts Page 283)

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  • LTKapal
    LTKapal Posts: 1,312
    Rothko said:
    If there is a serious issue with sports medicine at the club. 
    Maybe the medicine cabinet wasn't included in the deal so Roland has flogged it on ebay 
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,255
    Allegedly, our medical team was inherited for Arsenal where there where also many injuries.

    How true that is I don't know.

    Clearly more can be done but not sure it's always the medics fault.
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,765
    West Brom wonderkid Rakeem Harper is a loan target for the club's Championship rivals Leeds, Fulham, QPR and Charlton.

    https://www.skysports.com/football/news/30965/11912270/papers-chelsea-interest-in-60m-timo-werner-could-force-liverpools-hand
    If he’s that much of a wonder Kid why isn’t he playing in their first team ? 
  • 12 days to do our business. No idea what’s happening with Taylor but we need a player who is going to score ten goals between now and the end of the season. Pretty much anything less will undo all Bowyers hard work last season. Defence are clearly unable to keep a clean sheet and at a bare minimum we need a commanding partner for Lockyer. Yes I’m worried. 
  • Valley27000
    Valley27000 Posts: 3,417
    Or players just can't cope with the championship?.
  • 2121
    2121 Posts: 1,196
    West Brom wonderkid Rakeem Harper is a loan target for the club's Championship rivals Leeds, Fulham, QPR and Charlton.

    https://www.skysports.com/football/news/30965/11912270/papers-chelsea-interest-in-60m-timo-werner-could-force-liverpools-hand
    If he’s that much of a wonder Kid why isn’t he playing in their first team ? 
    And why would leeds think they could get him! 
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,255
    Would WBA loan a player to promotion rivals Leeds or Fulham.

    QPR maybe but they have loaned us players before and apart from sending them back injured they have done well : - )

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  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,680
    12 days to do our business. No idea what’s happening with Taylor but we need a player who is going to score ten goals between now and the end of the season. Pretty much anything less will undo all Bowyers hard work last season. Defence are clearly unable to keep a clean sheet and at a bare minimum we need a commanding partner for Lockyer. Yes I’m worried. 
    10..?! I think 5 or 6 is more realistic. That would put the player in the 1 in 3 category (at worse).....which is pretty good these days. 1 in 2 and you're talking promotion material. 10 in 16 you'd be having to pay millions.
  • Jamie19 said:
    Jamie19 said:
    CafcSCP said:
    So who do we think this player was that was offered in exchange for Taylor
    Has to be from the championship, cos Taylor isn’t going to drop a league.
    Doubt it’s a premier team.
    Heard it was Brighton and a swap with Murray, Gallen told several people on the way back from Preston.
    Is that really so ‘ridiculous’ ? 
    Swapping a 36 year old for a 29 year old doesn’t sound to good to me.

    It works for me if the 36 year old helps keep us up. The 29 year old may not be with us in August anyway.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    edited January 2020
    West Brom wonderkid Rakeem Harper is a loan target for the club's Championship rivals Leeds, Fulham, QPR and Charlton.

    https://www.skysports.com/football/news/30965/11912270/papers-chelsea-interest-in-60m-timo-werner-could-force-liverpools-hand
    I can just see how an inquiry to West Brom would go.

    Gallen: “Slaven it’s Steve, given how we have a good relationship with you after the Leko and Field signings, we are interested in Harper”

    Bilic: “Hi Steve, Oh you mean the Leko who is out for the season and Field who has been injured for a few months”

    Gallen: “yes those 2, we are confident that our injury curse has gone”




    Gallen: “Slaven, Slav......Slaven can you hear me? Slav it’s Steve Gallen......Slav, are you still there”

    Bowyer - How did the Harper conversation go Steve? Yes, was very positive, think Slaven must have gone through a tunnel or something though. I’m sure he will call back. Just in case, who did you say was number 75 on our wish list? Did you say it was Andre Green? 
  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,668
    Rothko said:
    If there is a serious issue with sports medicine at the club, and this and previous years shows there is, then investing in that and the tech, be it better equipment in the medical suites at SL, access to better doctors or better tech to track players performance, is needed. 

    Investing in sports science that keep a squad fit is better then a squad of 30 to cope with injuries that can be stopped 

    Don't knock our 'unique' medical department.


  • TellyTubby
    TellyTubby Posts: 3,552
    Just read SLP article from Cawley, we’ve been linked with New Technology.
    Image result for stoking a boiler
    New technology to get our pitch nice and warm. Next time the crowd goes quiet during a bitterly cold match at The Valley, listen out for the shovelling below your feet.

  • vff
    vff Posts: 6,887
    edited January 2020
    stoneroses19 said:


    Panic over for me, he is going to raise the squads spirits by buying them the latest tech
    Except he said “not always spending lots of money”. He didn’t say never spending lots of money. 

    Why is it a bad thing for ESI to focus on technology and development to solve our ridiculous injury list this season? 

    We’ve all said one of the reasons for injuries has been Roland wrecking our budgets. We now have someone willing to pay for the best specialists to come over and take a look at our setup. 




    Panic over for me, he is going to raise the squads spirits by buying them the latest tech
    Except he said “not always spending lots of money”. He didn’t say never spending lots of money. 

    Why is it a bad thing for ESI to focus on technology and development to solve our ridiculous injury list this season? 

    We’ve all said one of the reasons for injuries has been Roland wrecking our budgets. We now have someone willing to pay for the best specialists to come over and take a look at our setup. 

    It's good to have a look at the medical dept and improve things. That's not saying the medical department is crap. Its good to always look to see how things can be improved. Also good to have a sufficient budget and not have to buy injury players in the first place and have a decent enough squad to be able to rest players.

    Contributory reasons to the injury crisis, is a small squad and not being able to rest players when needed, some of the quality players Charlton could afford on the Duchatelet budget, have an injury history and so cheaper. If with their quality and not having an injury history Charlton could have not afforded them. These players are a bit of a gamble as to whether they will hold up or not.  All this a result of Duchatelet policy and a feature of Duchatelet's squads.

    It took a couple of seasons for Standard Liege to recover from Duchatelet, it is likely to be similar for Charlton. Hoping that ESI deeds matches up to their words & PR.

    There was some speculation on Bostock from Forest,  Bostock earlier on in this thread. Bostock is not in the starting line up or subs bench today in Forest home game against Luton.
  • swords_alive
    swords_alive Posts: 4,279
    West Brom wonderkid Rakeem Harper is a loan target for the club's Championship rivals Leeds, Fulham, QPR and Charlton.

    https://www.skysports.com/football/news/30965/11912270/papers-chelsea-interest-in-60m-timo-werner-could-force-liverpools-hand
    If he’s that much of a wonder Kid why isn’t he playing in their first team ? 
    Competition from others. He had a good game against us in the cup, but that was only his second start this season. This interview from 10 days ago sheds some light;

    https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/west-brom-harper-slaven-bilic-17537406
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Just to break it down... Our past January signings (those in bold who have been successful)...

    Of course some have been loan signings

    2019 - Williams | Parker | Maxwell | Purrington
    2018 - Mavididi | Zyro | Kaikaki
    2017 - Forster-Caskey | Page | Dasilva | Byrne | Mavididi
    2016 - Johnson | Teixeira | Williams | Poyet
    2015 - Etheridge | Dmitrovic | Watt | Lepoint | Veljkovic
    2014 - Nego | Ghoochannejhad | Parzyszek | Thuram | Koc
    2013 - Feely
    2012 - Clarke | Cort | Haynes
    Harsh on Maxwell. He didn’t concede a goal in his time at the club. 
    What about Diarra, Eagles, Johnson (the first time), Fanni, Young, Sanogo etc etc 
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,614
    J BLOCK said:
    Mike said:
    From someone who watches Rovers regularly (wife is a fan) Ollie Clarke the captain is an average league one player, be concerned if he is the level we are aiming for. Clake Harris is better and could probably do a job. Career has only got going last few years. Terrible attitude though always moaning at teammates.
    I would be very underwhelmed if we brought those 2 in.
    At this stage. I will take any player with experience in, we simply cannot keep playing the kids, sleep walking into relegation by doing so. 
    Disagree. We need to bring in players who can take us to the next level next season, players who can improve the team and push us forward. No point getting in a player who can keep us up this season and be surplus to requirements next season. We need players who can do both.
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    Just to break it down... Our past January signings (those in bold who have been successful)...

    Of course some have been loan signings

    2019 - Williams | Parker | Maxwell | Purrington
    2018 - Mavididi | Zyro | Kaikaki
    2017 - Forster-Caskey | Page | Dasilva | Byrne | Mavididi
    2016 - Johnson | Teixeira | Williams | Poyet
    2015 - Etheridge | Dmitrovic | Watt | Lepoint | Veljkovic
    2014 - Nego | Ghoochannejhad | Parzyszek | Thuram | Koc
    2013 - Feely
    2012 - Clarke | Cort | Haynes
    Harsh on Maxwell. He didn’t concede a goal in his time at the club. 
    What about Diarra, Eagles, Johnson (the first time), Fanni, Young, Sanogo etc etc 
    Didnt mention any of those as they didnt sign in the January Transfer WIndow

    They of course joined when EFL teams could make shorter loan deals

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  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    edited January 2020
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Just to break it down... Our past January signings (those in bold who have been successful)...

    Of course some have been loan signings

    2019 - Williams | Parker | Maxwell | Purrington
    2018 - Mavididi | Zyro | Kaikaki
    2017 - Forster-Caskey | Page | Dasilva | Byrne | Mavididi
    2016 - Johnson | Teixeira | Williams | Poyet
    2015 - Etheridge | Dmitrovic | Watt | Lepoint | Veljkovic
    2014 - Nego | Ghoochannejhad | Parzyszek | Thuram | Koc
    2013 - Feely
    2012 - Clarke | Cort | Haynes
    Harsh on Maxwell. He didn’t concede a goal in his time at the club. 
    What about Diarra, Eagles, Johnson (the first time), Fanni, Young, Sanogo etc etc 
    Didnt mention any of those as they didnt sign in the January Transfer WIndow

    They of course joined when EFL teams could make shorter loan deals
    Didn't Diarra, Eagles and Johnson all rock up as a buy 1 get 2 free deal in January?  I know they were all free agents.

    EDIT Sorry it was February.  Many apologies 
  • cafc_se7
    cafc_se7 Posts: 2,282
    West Brom wonderkid Rakeem Harper is a loan target for the club's Championship rivals Leeds, Fulham, QPR and Charlton.

    https://www.skysports.com/football/news/30965/11912270/papers-chelsea-interest-in-60m-timo-werner-could-force-liverpools-hand
    I can just see how an inquiry to West Brom would go.

    Gallen: “Slaven it’s Steve, given how we have a good relationship with you after the Leko and Field signings, we are interested in Harper”

    Bilic: “Hi Steve, Oh you mean the Leko who is out for the season and Field who has been injured for a few months”

    Gallen: “yes those 2, we are confident that our injury curse has gone”




    Gallen: “Slaven, Slav......Slaven can you hear me? Slav it’s Steve Gallen......Slav, are you still there”

    Bowyer - How did the Harper conversation go Steve? Yes, was very positive, think Slaven must have gone through a tunnel or something though. I’m sure he will call back. Just in case, who did you say was number 75 on our wish list? Did you say it was Andre Green? 
    Sam Fields injury was a shocking challenge, Lekos was a freak knee injury....don’t really see the logic with that?
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,318
    edited January 2020
    J BLOCK said:
    Mike said:
    From someone who watches Rovers regularly (wife is a fan) Ollie Clarke the captain is an average league one player, be concerned if he is the level we are aiming for. Clake Harris is better and could probably do a job. Career has only got going last few years. Terrible attitude though always moaning at teammates.
    I would be very underwhelmed if we brought those 2 in.
    At this stage. I will take any player with experience in, we simply cannot keep playing the kids, sleep walking into relegation by doing so. 
    Disagree. We need to bring in players who can take us to the next level next season, players who can improve the team and push us forward. No point getting in a player who can keep us up this season and be surplus to requirements next season. We need players who can do both.
    Disagree, IMO we get players in who can keep us up, that’s it, we take stock in the summer, but right now we do whatever we can to stay up, that’s the number one priority 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,849
    se9addick said:
    Jamie19 said:
    Is this Maddison’s way of saying bye to Peterborough??
    He wears his team training kit to the gym? 
    I heard that the Charlton players do at David Lloyd - perhaps an agreement between the Club and Gym that they will do so?
  • Richard J
    Richard J Posts: 8,033
     Can we loan a third player from WBA?

    I think there is a limit between teams during the season. Not sure if it is two or three. 
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    edited January 2020
    cafc_se7 said:
    West Brom wonderkid Rakeem Harper is a loan target for the club's Championship rivals Leeds, Fulham, QPR and Charlton.

    https://www.skysports.com/football/news/30965/11912270/papers-chelsea-interest-in-60m-timo-werner-could-force-liverpools-hand
    I can just see how an inquiry to West Brom would go.

    Gallen: “Slaven it’s Steve, given how we have a good relationship with you after the Leko and Field signings, we are interested in Harper”

    Bilic: “Hi Steve, Oh you mean the Leko who is out for the season and Field who has been injured for a few months”

    Gallen: “yes those 2, we are confident that our injury curse has gone”




    Gallen: “Slaven, Slav......Slaven can you hear me? Slav it’s Steve Gallen......Slav, are you still there”

    Bowyer - How did the Harper conversation go Steve? Yes, was very positive, think Slaven must have gone through a tunnel or something though. I’m sure he will call back. Just in case, who did you say was number 75 on our wish list? Did you say it was Andre Green? 
    Sam Fields injury was a shocking challenge, Lekos was a freak knee injury....don’t really see the logic with that?
    Just a lighthearted comment. 
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,372
    I know it was a while ago we heard that link but we can forget about the Ronan Curtis link 




  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,743
    I think bowyer is a bit rattled too it sounds like he is pleading with the chairman to get some deals over the line maybe he thinks he is being too slow in finalising them
    Why would he possibly think that?
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,740
    J BLOCK said:
    Mike said:
    From someone who watches Rovers regularly (wife is a fan) Ollie Clarke the captain is an average league one player, be concerned if he is the level we are aiming for. Clake Harris is better and could probably do a job. Career has only got going last few years. Terrible attitude though always moaning at teammates.
    I would be very underwhelmed if we brought those 2 in.
    At this stage. I will take any player with experience in, we simply cannot keep playing the kids, sleep walking into relegation by doing so. 
    This. Any experienced league player has to be better than having a midfield of Vennings, Dempsey and Morgan. I agree we don't want to panic buy but I can't believe we haven't made more moves in the loan market to ensure we at least have a majority of senior players on the pitch.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,423
    J BLOCK said:
    J BLOCK said:
    Mike said:
    From someone who watches Rovers regularly (wife is a fan) Ollie Clarke the captain is an average league one player, be concerned if he is the level we are aiming for. Clake Harris is better and could probably do a job. Career has only got going last few years. Terrible attitude though always moaning at teammates.
    I would be very underwhelmed if we brought those 2 in.
    At this stage. I will take any player with experience in, we simply cannot keep playing the kids, sleep walking into relegation by doing so. 
    Disagree. We need to bring in players who can take us to the next level next season, players who can improve the team and push us forward. No point getting in a player who can keep us up this season and be surplus to requirements next season. We need players who can do both.
    Disagree, IMO we get players in who can keep us up, that’s it, we take stock in the summer, but right now we do whatever we can to stay up, that’s the number one priority 
    Other than loans I can’t imagine there being many players we can sign who keep us up but won’t offer enough next season. To stay up we need players who improve the starting eleven, adding more squad players won’t be enough.