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Barnsley threatening EFL ahead of Disciplinary action for Wednesday, Derby & Birmingham

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  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,281

  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,281
    This is their museum.

    Not sure their source is any good but they clarified that this means 12 points now and nine suspended
  • peterreeves
    peterreeves Posts: 1,064
    Not sure what to believe anymore but you have think how much longer a delay there can be. 
  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 51,033
    If nine points suspended it means only lose 3 points now which will not put them in the relegation group
  • randy andy
    randy andy Posts: 5,457
    ross1 said:
    If nine points suspended it means only lose 3 points now which will not put them in the relegation group
    I think they're saying 12 now and a further 9 suspended. The situation you're describing would be a farce and would probably see Birmingham challenge it as they were a lot more cooperative than SW and didn't get any points suspended 
  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,241
    ross1 said:
    If nine points suspended it means only lose 3 points now which will not put them in the relegation group
    I think it means 12 now with a further 9 suspended.
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,492
    ross1 said:
    If nine points suspended it means only lose 3 points now which will not put them in the relegation group
    Think they mean 12 points off now, with another 9 suspended in case they do it again. 
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,281
    ross1 said:
    If nine points suspended it means only lose 3 points now which will not put them in the relegation group
    No, it means, if true, 12 now and another nine suspended.
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    edited July 2020
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    Not sure what essential requirement 8 is.
  • SuedeAdidas
    SuedeAdidas Posts: 7,756
    Or it’s actually 12 points plus another 9 suspended. 

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  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 51,033
    edited July 2020
    ross1 said:
    If nine points suspended it means only lose 3 points now which will not put them in the relegation group
    I think they're saying 12 now and a further 9 suspended. The situation you're describing would be a farce and would probably see Birmingham challenge it as they were a lot more cooperative than SW and didn't get any points suspended 
    ross1 said:
    If nine points suspended it means only lose 3 points now which will not put them in the relegation group
    I think it means 12 now with a further 9 suspended.
    ross1 said:
    If nine points suspended it means only lose 3 points now which will not put them in the relegation group
    Think they mean 12 points off now, with another 9 suspended in case they do it again. 
    ross1 said:
    If nine points suspended it means only lose 3 points now which will not put them in the relegation group
    No, it means, if true, 12 now and another nine suspended.

    Or it’s actually 12 points plus another 9 suspended. 

    OK, so I am wrong, stop shouting at me, I hurt easily  :)
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,059
    This is their museum.

    Not sure their source is any good but they clarified that this means 12 points now and nine suspended
    If I had to guess, that's what I'd say.
    In fact I believe I said this morning that anything over 12 would be suspended.
  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,241
    I’d prefer they get 21 points deducted now, as from what I’ve seen that’s what they deserve. But will of course take the 12 points if true. 
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,335
    ross1 said:
    If nine points suspended it means only lose 3 points now which will not put them in the relegation group
    It maybe 12 points now and a further 9 suspended until their next accounts. Apparently still over limit.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,059
    I believe part of the issue is that Sheff W claim that the EFL were consulted and agreed to this course of action.
    Also, it's more than possible that part of any point deduction would be suspended (in other words not happen). 
    I did.
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,774
    I think it means 12 now and 9 suspended next season but I could be wrong...
  • IdleHans
    IdleHans Posts: 10,990
    Going to be odd if they deduct 12 points from both teams, but as a result of one going down the other stays up and thus get their deduction next year instead.
  • cafc999
    cafc999 Posts: 4,970
    Massive
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,085
    Addickted said:
    HEAD OF MEDIA AND PUBLIC RELATIONS

    ...Not sure what essential requirement 8 is.
    Ability to count?  Or perhaps ability to proofread a block of text?
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,335
    Stig said:
    Addickted said:
    HEAD OF MEDIA AND PUBLIC RELATIONS

    ...Not sure what essential requirement 8 is.
    Ability to count?  Or perhaps ability to proofread a block of text?
    Able to do joined up writing?

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  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,085
    Or perhaps it's one of the two number fours they have.  
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,964
    Wednesday's final games are QPR, Huddersfield, Fulham and Boro, having just lost 3 in a row
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,727
    edited July 2020
    IdleHans said:
    Going to be odd if they deduct 12 points from both teams, but as a result of one going down the other stays up and thus get their deduction next year instead.
    Doesnt mean that at all. Both get 12 points deducted & even if one stays up then thats it. Points are only deducted the following season if they get relegated in the season proper, ie finish in the bottom 3 before any points are deducted. 

    If SW do get 12 points deducted & Wigan stay up because SW, Luton & Barnsley all go down then you could say it's a win/win for the EFL. 
  • IdleHans
    IdleHans Posts: 10,990
    IdleHans said:
    Going to be odd if they deduct 12 points from both teams, but as a result of one going down the other stays up and thus get their deduction next year instead.
    Doesnt mean that at all. Both get 12 points deducted & even if one stays up then thats it. Points are only deducted the following season if they get relegated in the season proper, ie finish in the bottom 3 before any points are deducted. 

    If SW do get 12 points deducted & Wigan stay up because SW, Luton & Barnsley all go down then you could say it's a win/win for the EFL. 
    Of course. My brain's turned to mush during lockdown
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,281
    IdleHans said:
    Going to be odd if they deduct 12 points from both teams, but as a result of one going down the other stays up and thus get their deduction next year instead.
    Doesnt mean that at all. Both get 12 points deducted & even if one stays up then thats it. Points are only deducted the following season if they get relegated in the season proper, ie finish in the bottom 3 before any points are deducted. 

    If SW do get 12 points deducted & Wigan stay up because SW, Luton & Barnsley all go down then you could say it's a win/win for the EFL. 
    Not so.

    For Wigan it is either/or.

    Not sure about the Massives
  • peterreeves
    peterreeves Posts: 1,064
    Definitely 12 now and because they don't trust the naughty Massives they're going to  hold another 9 point deduction over their heads.

    Seems fair to me and in balance with Birmingham who at least fessed up....

    But... it all sounds to good to be true.... 
  • Fumbluff
    Fumbluff Posts: 10,142
    edited July 2020
    Does that mean if they do it again they get the suspended 9 points plus a fresh 12 for the new offence and then another 9 to rollover for a third offence?
    Sounds complicated
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,281
    Fumbluff said:
    Does that mean if they do it again they get the suspended 9 points plus a fresh 12 for the new offence Snd then another 9 to rollover for a third offence?
    sounds complicated
    Yes and they have wear "We are cheats" on their shirts.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    12 now and 9 to relegate them or carry over if they don't go down.......