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Wednesday Woes

The Prince-e-Paul
The Prince-e-Paul Posts: 6,688
in General Charlton
https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/football/news/sheffield-wednesday-home-form-monk-19164802

Was reading this article. Apart from the lazy journalism (lost last week to Brentford Town) Wednesdays only home win so far in 2020 was against Charlton, thanks to a *Lumped* 95th minute winner. How the massive have fallen. 
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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,325

  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,884
    they still play at a higher level than us 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,325
    southamptonaddick said:
    Todds_right_hook said:
    they still play at a higher level than us 
    Only because they're cheating bastards.
    Yup, they'll always have that tag in my eyes now
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,355
    Fuck em the jumped up norvern wank muppets!
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,231
    southamptonaddick said:
    Todds_right_hook said:
    they still play at a higher level than us 
    Only because they're cheating bastards.
    soapy_jones said:
    Fuck em the jumped up norvern wank muppets!

    Football fans unity against the EFL showing signs of a schism.
  • theeenorth
    theeenorth Posts: 2,279
    Hope that hurt last night. Disliked them intensely from the time at Sellout when fat bstard was giving it with his kid sat on his shoulders. Too many other incidences of their crimes to number,
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    For the good of football I hope they go down. Cheats should not be allowed to prosper.
  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,223
    I Imagine they expected to be closer to safety than 9 points off after 8 games. Obviously a long way to go of the season, but great to see them lose 3 games in a row. 
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  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,355
    a well known club whose history is not as glorious as one might assume. I wonder if the owner has lost interest after some disastrous managerial appointments and player signings. They seem doomed to return to the third strata before too long and deservedly so.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,857
    stoneroses19 said:
    I Imagine they expected to be closer to safety than 9 points off after 8 games. Obviously a long way to go of the season, but great to see them lose 3 games in a row. 
    They started the season well, indeed many people thought they could still make a run for the playoffs!
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,730
    Minus 12 points would have seen them relegated last season. It could see them relegated this. If so, it would be poetic justice if we swap divisions.
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    Minus 12 points would have seen them relegated last season. It could see them relegated this. If so, it would be poetic justice if we swap divisions.
    Nice little gap starting to open up again as they are now 9 points from safety. 
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,073
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    Minus 12 points would have seen them relegated last season. It could see them relegated this. If so, it would be poetic justice if we swap divisions.
    Whilst I have always liked Wednesday and have a lot of mates who support them, I have to agree.
    The Kelham Island boozers and The New Barrack Tavern make for a cracking away day.
  • NorthheathAddick
    NorthheathAddick Posts: 4,018
    Be nice to wave goodbye to them as we pass at end of season...if not & they do drop & we stay,I think we would still be in a more decent state than them...cheats end of...!!!
  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,279
    They will survive but it is good to see them struggle.
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    Athletico Charlton said:
    They will survive but it is good to see them struggle.
    I’m not so sure they will survive. Monk will be coming under pressure and I am not convinced that everything is OK financially with regard to FFP. I expect Monk to be the first sacking in the Championship.
    The home form since the January has been appalling and they are not scoring goals. The teams at the bottom are not the usual suspects and the sides immediately above the relegation places are Derby and Forest.
    Their next game is Wycombe W which is a must win. This game is then followed by Bournemouth Millwall and Preston. Things will hopefully look worse after these.
    Come on Wycombe!
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,635
    One thing that might help them in the end could be goal difference. Usually when you are at the bottom it's because you are losing matches & therefore have a negative goal difference. Losing 3-0 didnt help, but apart from that their GD is pretty good & is worth a point in itself.

    This then leads to an arguement about whether just a points deduction is enough. I was thinking about this last night & I reckon that in addition to starting off on -12 points they should have started off with a -8 GD as well. This would be akin to have been given 4   2-0 walk overs against them. 
  • letthegoodtimesroll
    letthegoodtimesroll Posts: 10,622
    eaststandmike said:
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    Minus 12 points would have seen them relegated last season. It could see them relegated this. If so, it would be poetic justice if we swap divisions.
    Nice little gap starting to open up again as they are now 9 points from safety. 
    They started the season 12 points from safety so technically, after 8 games,  they have closed the gap by 3 points. If they maintain that momentum for the rest of the season they will stay up. 
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  • lordromford
    lordromford Posts: 7,786
    golfaddick said:
    One thing that might help them in the end could be goal difference. Usually when you are at the bottom it's because you are losing matches & therefore have a negative goal difference. Losing 3-0 didnt help, but apart from that their GD is pretty good & is worth a point in itself.

    This then leads to an arguement about whether just a points deduction is enough. I was thinking about this last night & I reckon that in addition to starting off on -12 points they should have started off with a -8 GD as well. This would be akin to have been given 4   2-0 walk overs against them. 
    Or just give them a 13 point deduction. 😀
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,730
    Redrobo said:
    Athletico Charlton said:
    They will survive but it is good to see them struggle.
    I’m not so sure they will survive. Monk will be coming under pressure and I am not convinced that everything is OK financially with regard to FFP. I expect Monk to be the first sacking in the Championship.
    The home form since the January has been appalling and they are not scoring goals. The teams at the bottom are not the usual suspects and the sides immediately above the relegation places are Derby and Forest.
    Their next game is Wycombe W which is a must win. This game is then followed by Bournemouth Millwall and Preston. Things will hopefully look worse after these.
    Come on Wycombe!
    I still want them to beat Millwall.
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,155
    If we go up I want them relegated,  if we stay down I want them to stay up 
  • lordromford
    lordromford Posts: 7,786
    letthegoodtimesroll said:
    eaststandmike said:
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    Minus 12 points would have seen them relegated last season. It could see them relegated this. If so, it would be poetic justice if we swap divisions.
    Nice little gap starting to open up again as they are now 9 points from safety. 
    They started the season 12 points from safety so technically, after 8 games,  they have closed the gap by 3 points. If they maintain that momentum for the rest of the season they will stay up. 
    Well, after Coventry’s win tonight, Weds are now 10 points from safety, meaning they’ve only reduced the gap by 2 points after 8 games. If they maintain that momentum, they’ll go down.
    Just goes to show that it’s too early to tell.

    (But hopefully the cheating bastards go down.)
  • MattF
    MattF Posts: 3,797
    Reckon Wednesday will stay up, although the sooner they can hit 0 points the better for them. Wonder how Monk and their players view the minus points and whether they're keeping an eye on the table or not at this point.
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,794
    lordromford said:
    golfaddick said:
    One thing that might help them in the end could be goal difference. Usually when you are at the bottom it's because you are losing matches & therefore have a negative goal difference. Losing 3-0 didnt help, but apart from that their GD is pretty good & is worth a point in itself.

    This then leads to an arguement about whether just a points deduction is enough. I was thinking about this last night & I reckon that in addition to starting off on -12 points they should have started off with a -8 GD as well. This would be akin to have been given 4   2-0 walk overs against them. 
    Or just give them a 13 point deduction. 😀
    How do we know the twelve point deduction isn't actually an eleven point deduction and one more for the goal difference?
  • lordromford
    lordromford Posts: 7,786
    AddicksAddict said:
    lordromford said:
    golfaddick said:
    One thing that might help them in the end could be goal difference. Usually when you are at the bottom it's because you are losing matches & therefore have a negative goal difference. Losing 3-0 didnt help, but apart from that their GD is pretty good & is worth a point in itself.

    This then leads to an arguement about whether just a points deduction is enough. I was thinking about this last night & I reckon that in addition to starting off on -12 points they should have started off with a -8 GD as well. This would be akin to have been given 4   2-0 walk overs against them. 
    Or just give them a 13 point deduction. 😀
    How do we know the twelve point deduction isn't actually an eleven point deduction and one more for the goal difference?
    Absolutely. 😀
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,857
    Great for Wycombe to get their first win today, especially as it increases the gap over Wednesday to 8 points. Even without the 12 point deduction, Wednesday would only be 20th
  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,223
    Brilliant to see four losses in a row 
  • lordromford
    lordromford Posts: 7,786
    Passing Wednesday on their way down is the only way the decision to delay the points deduction will ever lose any of its sting.

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