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  • 995632
    995632 Posts: 319
    J BLOCK said:
    Total lack of ambition going for Adkins. He is someone that would get the job in the Roland era.

    We now have the money, the owner and the potential to do incredible things, I would be fuming if we go for Adkins.
    Why fuming exactly? 

    If someone said there's a Danish coach called Bjorn-Nigel Adkins-Schmeichelson who won the league in one country, was promoted twice with one team, one of only 3 managers in recent memory to get double promoted to the top division, but for the last kick of the final day missing the playoffs with another team you'd be well happy!! 
  • CAFCsayer
    CAFCsayer Posts: 10,223
    If Jacko goes and we end up with Adkins I'll be gutted. 
  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,210
    CAFCsayer said:
    If Jacko goes and we end up with Adkins I'll be gutted. 
    This is kinda mad. 

    Stick the two managerial CVs up side by side. On what planet is Jackson seen as the smart choice? 
    Planet been at charlton for a decade.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,304
    edited March 2021
    CAFCsayer said:
    If Jacko goes and we end up with Adkins I'll be gutted. 
    This is kinda mad. 

    Stick the two managerial CVs up side by side. On what planet is Jackson seen as the smart choice? 
    In which case Jackson would never get a Management job then.

    Hate the "But you need experience" line... Absolute bullshit as have had it thrown my way a few times too
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 22,506
    Bowyer wants Jacko at Brum with him.
    Well knock me down with a feather, didn't see that one did we, and I could well see that happening if and when we don't offer JJ the managers post.
  • CAFCsayer
    CAFCsayer Posts: 10,223
    CAFCsayer said:
    If Jacko goes and we end up with Adkins I'll be gutted. 
    This is kinda mad. 

    Stick the two managerial CVs up side by side. On what planet is Jackson seen as the smart choice? 
    Jacko on his own, yes, I agree. Jacko someone more senior along side him (Curbs?) is a different story. 
  • Does anyone know if Bowyer wants Jackson to join him at Birmingham??
  • cafc_se7
    cafc_se7 Posts: 2,274
    I read into that as Bow is trying to win his pal the managers job! Forcing Sandgaards hand.
  • cafc_se7 said:
    I read into that as Bow is trying to win his pal the managers job! Forcing Sandgaards hand.
    I read that as, Bowyer wants people he knows and trusts alongside him at Birmingham
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  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,070
    edited March 2021
    Would be a real shame to see JJ go, he's always been there to pick us up when needed 
  • Andy Crosby who is usually Adkins number 2 has joined Port Vale today.


  • sinceiwasyoung
    sinceiwasyoung Posts: 1,040
    Jacko with Curbs as his mentor would be my ideal choice , but Adkins might be a good fit with the success he's had at several clubs .
  • siblers
    siblers Posts: 2,018
    edited March 2021
    Andy Crosby who is usually Adkins number 2 has joined Port Vale today.


    I'd be very happy if JJ stayed as a number 2 with Adkins. Not sure JJ will want to though. He'll be fairly gutted if he doesn't get it
  • roseandcrown
    roseandcrown Posts: 7,587
    Test for Tommy now. Give jacko the job or lose him.  
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,989
    CAFCsayer said:
    If Jacko goes and we end up with Adkins I'll be gutted. 
    This is kinda mad. 

    Stick the two managerial CVs up side by side. On what planet is Jackson seen as the smart choice? 
    In which case Jackson would never get a Management job then.

    Hate the "But you need experience" line... Absolute bullshit as have had it thrown my way a few times too
    Bloody hell, ForeverAddickted 25/1.
  • Uboat
    Uboat Posts: 12,195
    I liked the idea that maybe JJ thought Bowyer was a bit of a knob and was embarrassed by his awful man management. If they are actually a tight team then perhaps JJ has to share the  responsibility for our poor form this season. 
  • CAFCsayer said:
    If Jacko goes and we end up with Adkins I'll be gutted. 
    This is kinda mad. 

    Stick the two managerial CVs up side by side. On what planet is Jackson seen as the smart choice? 
    Planet been at charlton for a decade.
    Why not Keith Peacock ? He’s been there longer still
  • Test for Tommy now. Give jacko the job or lose him.  
    Ffs
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  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,446
    CAFCsayer said:
    If Jacko goes and we end up with Adkins I'll be gutted. 
    This is kinda mad. 

    Stick the two managerial CVs up side by side. On what planet is Jackson seen as the smart choice? 
    In which case Jackson would never get a Management job then.

    Hate the "But you need experience" line... Absolute bullshit as have had it thrown my way a few times too
    If we already had a good set-up I wouldn't mind an inexperienced manager. 

    But we need rebuilding from top to bottom, an experienced manager will be able to help a lot more than Jackson. From facilities to the correct backroom staff. 
  • UEAAddick
    UEAAddick Posts: 512
    Everyone puts Leicester's owners as the best in the country and yeah they are brilliant and have done an unbelievable job.

    But they have also made appointments that have been questioned when I've researched it

    1. First they sack Pearson and appoint Paolo Sousa. Sacked early on and did nothing of note before or after.

    2. Then they bring in Eriksson. Cos he's a name it seems. Past it and was sacked early on again.

    3. They then bring back Pearson. Does very well gets em up, keeps them there. They then sack him due to an off the field issue. Something involving his son I'm sure?

    4. Bring in Ranieri. How many of them were positive about him at the time, you would struggle to find any lets be honest. They win the league, they then later sack him because it wasn't working out at all 2nd season and they looked as if they were going down.

    5. Craig Shakespeare comes in and turns it around first half season or so and finish way clear of relegation under him. Appoint him as full time manager, doesn't work sacked in October leaving them in the bottom 3.

    6. Claude Puel is appointed. Did decent, he got them in the top half first season. Second season he was sacked. Leicester fan I know says he wasn't well liked by fans and his football was boring. So bit of a mix.

    7. Brendan Rodgers is next. I know he did a very good job at Celtic before going Leicester. But he was considered a bit of a failure still from how it ended in his Liverpool days. I'm sure there was a bit of split in opinion about him from fans, but I don't know. Now he's one of top managers in Britain and do a fantastic job, with players no way near as good on paper as the teams around them.

    Yes Leicester are a different club and its all in different circumstances, but it goes to show that every successful ownership can have good and bad. Some appointments work out and others don't. There is no guarantees.


  • colthe3rd
    colthe3rd Posts: 8,486
    Right I think I've got to the bottom of this. Page 28:

    Addicktion said:
    I'm gonna stick my neck out here and say that I've heard murmurs of Nigel Adkins.

    Probably get pelters but thought it was worth sharing. Would make sense with the Roddy connection. 


    Interesting, heard a murmur have you @Addicktion? Well going back through your posts you only have one other post on this thread but it was edited to be blank. I wonder what that said? Helpfully someone quoted you on page 17:
    Nigel Adkins could be a shout? Managed to get Southampton promoted from Lg1 to the prem and could fit the long term model TS is looking for?
    Just seen this however some people's lol'ed it?






  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767
    Andy Crosby who is usually Adkins number 2 has joined Port Vale today.


    We're getting his Dad, Bing, instead. He's gone fishin' around the world but hopes to be back in time for a white Christmas
  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,210
    CAFCsayer said:
    If Jacko goes and we end up with Adkins I'll be gutted. 
    This is kinda mad. 

    Stick the two managerial CVs up side by side. On what planet is Jackson seen as the smart choice? 
    Planet been at charlton for a decade.
    Why not Keith Peacock ? He’s been there longer still
    Because he hasn’t been assistant manager/coach for the last five years, thought you’d be aware of this.
  • CAFCsayer said:
    If Jacko goes and we end up with Adkins I'll be gutted. 
    This is kinda mad. 

    Stick the two managerial CVs up side by side. On what planet is Jackson seen as the smart choice? 
    Planet been at charlton for a decade.
    Why not Keith Peacock ? He’s been there longer still
    Because he hasn’t been assistant manager/coach for the last five years, thought you’d be aware of this.
    If five years is your criteria then Jackson wasn’t even a coach five years ago and he’s never managed at all.
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    CAFCsayer said:
    If Jacko goes and we end up with Adkins I'll be gutted. 
    This is kinda mad. 

    Stick the two managerial CVs up side by side. On what planet is Jackson seen as the smart choice? 
    Planet been at charlton for a decade.
    Just because he has been here a long time does make him a good manager?

    All the candidates being mentioned are proven, JJ isn't.  
  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,210
    CAFCsayer said:
    If Jacko goes and we end up with Adkins I'll be gutted. 
    This is kinda mad. 

    Stick the two managerial CVs up side by side. On what planet is Jackson seen as the smart choice? 
    Planet been at charlton for a decade.
    Why not Keith Peacock ? He’s been there longer still
    Because he hasn’t been assistant manager/coach for the last five years, thought you’d be aware of this.
    If five years is your criteria then Jackson wasn’t even a coach five years ago and he’s never managed at all.
    Not my criteria as such, but clearly knows the club inside out (in recent times).
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,353
    UEAAddick said:
    Everyone puts Leicester's owners as the best in the country and yeah they are brilliant and have done an unbelievable job.

    But they have also made appointments that have been questioned when I've researched it

    1. First they sack Pearson and appoint Paolo Sousa. Sacked early on and did nothing of note before or after.

    2. Then they bring in Eriksson. Cos he's a name it seems. Past it and was sacked early on again.

    3. They then bring back Pearson. Does very well gets em up, keeps them there. They then sack him due to an off the field issue. Something involving his son I'm sure?

    4. Bring in Ranieri. How many of them were positive about him at the time, you would struggle to find any lets be honest. They win the league, they then later sack him because it wasn't working out at all 2nd season and they looked as if they were going down.

    5. Craig Shakespeare comes in and turns it around first half season or so and finish way clear of relegation under him. Appoint him as full time manager, doesn't work sacked in October leaving them in the bottom 3.

    6. Claude Puel is appointed. Did decent, he got them in the top half first season. Second season he was sacked. Leicester fan I know says he wasn't well liked by fans and his football was boring. So bit of a mix.

    7. Brendan Rodgers is next. I know he did a very good job at Celtic before going Leicester. But he was considered a bit of a failure still from how it ended in his Liverpool days. I'm sure there was a bit of split in opinion about him from fans, but I don't know. Now he's one of top managers in Britain and do a fantastic job, with players no way near as good on paper as the teams around them.

    Yes Leicester are a different club and its all in different circumstances, but it goes to show that every successful ownership can have good and bad. Some appointments work out and others don't. There is no guarantees.


    It also shows that it takes a few years and managers to get it right a lot of the time. This whole getting a manager in and romping the leagues with him is a pipedream.

    It's going to take a lot of transfer windows, a massive rebuild, probably some stale seasons etc. If Adkins can take us up and solidify us as a championship side again then that will be a fantastic start. Then you build. 

    I've already seen a few people directing tweets at Thomas telling him Adkins isn't welcome here and it's seriously making me bury my face in my hands 
  • 995632
    995632 Posts: 319
    AddickRam said:
    I don't understand why people don't rate Danny Cowley saying he is average. 

    Not only is he a very tactically aware manager he also makes his team's the fittest in the league as well as winners everywhere he goes.

    His record speaks for himself as a winner. 

    Concord Rangers:

    Essex Senior League Champions 2008 
    FA Vase Quarter Finals 2008 (Club Record)
    Isthmian League Division One North Play Off Finalists 2009
    Essex Senior Cup Finalists 2009 
    Isthmian League Division One North Play Off Winners 2010
    Isthmian League Premier Play Off Winners 2013
    Isthmian League Cup Winners 2013
    Essex Senior Cup Winners 2014
    Essex Senior Cup Winners 2015
    FA Cup First Round 2015 (Club Record)

    3 Promotions (1 champions 2 play offs)
    3 Cups 
    Breaking club records

    Braintree Town:
    3rd in National League 2016 (Club Record)
    Lost to Grimsby in play-offs 
    FA Cup First Round (Joint Record at the time)

    Club record of highest ever league finish

    Lincoln City:
    National League Champions 2017
    FA Cup Q/F 2017 (First non league team to reach quarters) 
    EFL Trophy Champions 2018
    League Two Champions 2019

    2 Promotions as champions and the EFL Trophy in 3 seasons. 

    Huddersfield Town:
    Took over Huddersfield when they was struggling and won October's manager of the month going 6 unbeaten. 

    Rebalanced the budget and did his job of keeping them in the championship then shafted as they wanted a foreign approach.
    Know it doesn't matter much anymore, but I saw a stat saying Cowley got 50 of Huddersfields 51 points... 
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