Marcus Maddison - 20 months jail for GBH (p77)

addick1956 said:

cafcfan1990 said:

addick1956 said:

lancashire lad said:

Schwartz is in an even worse domestic situation

 Maddison has split up from his wife and child...Schwartz is just apart because of work.  There is a work of difference. 

Bit easier for Maddison to see his child than for Schwartz though, plus how is it not for work? Maddison left the city of Peterborough, first for London and then for Bolton because of work, no different to what Schwartz has done. Whether it's because of work or not, doesn't make it any easier anyway. 

 What tosh...Schwarz is not separated from his wife permanently. 

Maddison is. Plus most Saturdays he isn't available,  the usual day for access.  Have you been in that position,  where everyone decides when you have access except you. If you had you wouldn't be so callous with your remarks.

What difference does it make if it’s permanent or not? How am I being calious? I don’t have children but I have sympathy for both Maddison and Schwartz for having to spend time away from their families. I think you’ve proven yourself to be a bit thick at times but I was simply stating facts, I’ve defended Maddison on multiple occasions 

Cloudworm said:

I worry for the lad. Hope the PFA have something in place for this type of thing.

I believe that the PFA support the Sporting Chance Clinic which was founded by Tony Adams and provides help to sportspeople.  Our very own Paul Mortimer is also involved with them.  https://www.sportingchanceclinic.com/team

Edited to add: Yes, according to the last annual report for the clinic the PFA provides around £400k funding per year. The FA and the Rugby Football League around another £100k each. (I was surprised that the Premier League didn't get a mention.)

Serious question here, what is the problem with Maddison then?

Dazzler21 said:

ElfsborgAddick said:

Serious question here, what is the problem with Maddison then?

Mental health related I'd suggest

How have people come to that conclusion?  What has happened?

cafctom said:

ElfsborgAddick said:

Dazzler21 said:

ElfsborgAddick said:

Serious question here, what is the problem with Maddison then?

Mental health related I'd suggest

How have people come to that conclusion?  What has happened?

It’s the instant go-to for whenever anybody is not putting in the effort in this day and age it seems.

Not to say that he is having a great time of life, but nothing specifically has come out to say that he has a mental health problem. 

He comes across as lazy and with an ego problem.

Diagnoses aside, where are people getting the idea that MM has consistently acted flashy or arrogant or like he's better than playing for us? To me he seems like he's severely lacking in confidence and self-belief in his football, to the point where he'd rather withdraw.

Addickted said:

Dazzler21 said:

SuedeAdidas said:

That’s what we used to call a flash prick weren’t it?

No it's a genuine mental health disorder.

It's a personality trait. We all have them. We all deal with similar situations on a daily basis. Sometimes we struggle, sometimes we laugh.

It's called life.

Called supporting Charlton, well the struggling bit

Addickted said:

Dazzler21 said:

SuedeAdidas said:

That’s what we used to call a flash prick weren’t it?

No it's a genuine mental health disorder.

It's a personality trait. We all have them. We all deal with similar situations on a daily basis. Sometimes we struggle, sometimes we laugh.

It's called life.

No.

Narcissism in and of itself can be a personality trait, however narcissistic personality disorder is a recognised mental health condition.

My information is that senior players were talking the piss out of MM for a variety of things. Apparently he was ok with it at the start, but it developed quite quickly from a bit of fun to much more. Bowyers attitude at the time  was that he should be able to take it and get on with it. Seems that regardless of how he looks, he’s quite a sensitive little man. Source is solid.

shine166 said:

masicat said:

My information is that senior players were talking the piss out of MM for a variety of things. Apparently he was ok with it at the start, but it developed quite quickly from a bit of fun to much more. Bowyers attitude at the time  was that he should be able to take it and get on with it. Seems that regardless of how he looks, he’s quite a sensitive little man. Source is solid.

It's only banter if both sides are in on it, if bit it's bullying. 

Banter can be insulting but is not necessarily bullying. 

Leeds_Addick said:

Can see him being out of the game after this season

What a waste that would be. But looks like that’s the route his career is going. 

ricky_otto said:

Leeds_Addick said:

Can see him being out of the game after this season

What a waste that would be. But looks like that’s the route his career is going. 

I agree. 

Addick Addict said:

Leeds_Addick said:

ricky_otto said:

Leeds_Addick said:

Can see him being out of the game after this season

What a waste that would be. But looks like that’s the route his career is going. 

I agree. 

I don’t want to speculate on what might have gone on but its starting to look like he’ll have to start again at another club in league 2. It would be tough for anyone to find the motivation to keep going given he hasn’t done anything of note in half a season there. Especially as he clearly thinks he’s good enough to play 2 leagues above.

The trouble is you can't keep on stealing a living because eventually you will run out of clubs to rob. I questioned why no club had come in for him in the summer especially as he had pleaded on twitter that all he wanted to do was to play football. At his last three clubs he has achieved next to nothing and It looks like the nearest thing to playing football again will be with his mates over the park.

I can see him dropping into non league, possibly a return to gateshead or something. Football is clearly not his no 1 passion but something when he's concentrated on, is very good.