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Rumours Rumours - Summer 2021 edition (Deadline Day from p814)

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  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,164
    Where’s the loyalty in football 
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,908
    It would make sense if Chucks went to Birmingham - Bowyer knows his problems, Chucks has Championship ability, Chucks will likely want Championship pay despite his problems and Chucks was apparently the only player to wish Bowyer well following his departure and for some reason his playing time seemed to drop off dramatically under Adkins.
  • SheedyCAFC
    SheedyCAFC Posts: 1,245
    Football League World isn’t a reliable source at all, I even wrote a couple of articles for them a few years ago. Any article that you write, they publish.

    That being said it wouldn’t be a massive shock if Aneke were to leave really. I want him to stay because he is an absolute unit but as always when players go, we will move on.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,643
    I just wish TS hadn't said that 'we are going to blow this league out of the water' and Nigel ' that will be us next year' because they have set themselves up for a mighty fall whilst at the same time raising fans expectations. I am disappointed in our business so far because I thought they were really going to hit the ground running and make a few early signings to actually show the fans that they do mean business and to send a message to our rivals. There is a long way to go and I trust TS, NA et al to assemble a team to be fighting at the top end of the table but I am getting, like SHG, a tad twitchy.
    Unfortunately I lost count of the number of times I read on here last season, “not bothered about the playoffs, as we will romp league one next season”. That’s not to say it isn’t going to happen, but absolutely NO indication so far……
    This.

    Lots of people on here were wetting themselves around how we were going to piss this league this season (see what I did there ....) and not to worry about missing out on the pay-offs.

    Well, I haven't seen anything yet that shows that we are going to do anything different than last year. No NEW signings (Stockley was here for 4 months last season & had a hand (and head) in getting us to 7th) and any that have re-signed are to just make up the numbers. To get out if this league we will need to be SIGNIFICANTLY better than we were last season - and so far we are about 10 players down. 

    Yes, I know the season doesn't start until August 7th, and the transfer window doesn't shut for another 3 weeks after that blah blah blah, but if you are going to start the season on the front foot then a good pre-season is vital. At the moment UNDERWELMED doesn't even come close. 
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,628
    edited June 2021
    DOUCHER said:
    It would make sense if Chucks went to Birmingham - Bowyer knows his problems, Chucks has Championship ability, Chucks will likely want Championship pay despite his problems and Chucks was apparently the only player to wish Bowyer well following his departure and for some reason his playing time seemed to drop off dramatically under Adkins.
    I can see why Bowyer might want him because I’d like him to stay but I still struggle to see a chairman who isn’t familiar with Chuks being persuaded to sign a footballer that is unable to play 90 minutes of football which seems to me to be a minimum requirement. 
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,236
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Rothko said:
    If he wants to go then fine, good luck to him, time to move on innit 
    Only if it's true....... 
    That’s worth remembering. Have a feeling though that Birmingham or another will announce Chuks next Thursday. I think he’s intent on departing. Whatever Nigel said to him obviously didn’t work. 
    Why "obviously"?

    We don't know the state of play.

    Maybe Chuks never had any intention of re-signing, maybe he wants to stay and is completing his medical as I type, maybe he's playing one club off against another to get himself the best deal, maybe he's at St Andrews holding a blue shirt.

    We just don't know, it's not obvious.

    People asking "can we panic now?"   Sure, go ahead but won't make any difference.

    Me, I want to see some signings and the sooner the better but since I can't control that not going to get uptight about it.

    WIOTOS
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,628
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Rothko said:
    If he wants to go then fine, good luck to him, time to move on innit 
    Only if it's true....... 
    That’s worth remembering. Have a feeling though that Birmingham or another will announce Chuks next Thursday. I think he’s intent on departing. Whatever Nigel said to him obviously didn’t work. 
    Why "obviously"?

    We don't know the state of play.

    Maybe Chuks never had any intention of re-signing, maybe he wants to stay and is completing his medical as I type, maybe he's playing one club off against another to get himself the best deal, maybe he's at St Andrews holding a blue shirt.

    We just don't know, it's not obvious.

    People asking "can we panic now?"   Sure, go ahead but won't make any difference.

    Me, I want to see some signings and the sooner the better but since I can't control that not going to get uptight about it.

    WIOTOS
    Well that’s a fair point but I’m sure that the conversation Nigel had with Chuks wasn’t about Brexit. It was obviously to try and persuade Chuks that signing was the right thing. If it wasn’t that then why bother calling him in for a chat. Now Chuks might still sign which would be as far as I’m concerned a good thing but the chat didn’t send Chuks rushing to find a pen.
  • redlanered
    redlanered Posts: 2,196
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Rothko said:
    If he wants to go then fine, good luck to him, time to move on innit 
    Only if it's true....... 
    That’s worth remembering. Have a feeling though that Birmingham or another will announce Chuks next Thursday. I think he’s intent on departing. Whatever Nigel said to him obviously didn’t work. 
    Why "obviously"?

    We don't know the state of play.

    Maybe Chuks never had any intention of re-signing, maybe he wants to stay and is completing his medical as I type, maybe he's playing one club off against another to get himself the best deal, maybe he's at St Andrews holding a blue shirt.

    We just don't know, it's not obvious.

    People asking "can we panic now?"   Sure, go ahead but won't make any difference.

    Me, I want to see some signings and the sooner the better but since I can't control that not going to get uptight about it.

    WIOTOS

    99% of what we discuss here "won't make any difference" though...
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Rothko said:
    If he wants to go then fine, good luck to him, time to move on innit 
    Only if it's true....... 
    That’s worth remembering. Have a feeling though that Birmingham or another will announce Chuks next Thursday. I think he’s intent on departing. Whatever Nigel said to him obviously didn’t work. 
    Why "obviously"?

    We don't know the state of play.

    Maybe Chuks never had any intention of re-signing, maybe he wants to stay and is completing his medical as I type, maybe he's playing one club off against another to get himself the best deal, maybe he's at St Andrews holding a blue shirt.

    We just don't know, it's not obvious.

    People asking "can we panic now?"   Sure, go ahead but won't make any difference.

    Me, I want to see some signings and the sooner the better but since I can't control that not going to get uptight about it.

    WIOTOS

    99% of what we discuss here "won't make any difference" though...
    Yes but unfortunately some people need reminding of that fact. 
  • jonseventyfive
    jonseventyfive Posts: 3,354
    Surely July is the month when things hot up on the signing front with loans late on, if Chucks follows LB it's a shame but good luck to him, very much can't wait to get back to the valley and get to watch the side NA puts together. 

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  • Maccn05
    Maccn05 Posts: 967
    Chuks will be a massive loss for us next season. You can’t replace that quality in L1 without spending a lot of money or getting lucky.

    we can all moan about his injury problems but he still scored 15 goals and let’s face it if he was fit we’d be looking at a £4-5m player.

    On Chuks part you can’t blame and he’s done nothing wrong and left in the right way.

    Right now we are left looking significantly weaker than last season with no incomings rumoured.
  • RedJohn
    RedJohn Posts: 597
    edited June 2021
    Received a message saying we are interested in Josh Martin loan from Norwich, who knows.
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,002
    As much as Sandgaard, Adkins and co deserve a chance to do their thing, having signed one first choice player and two aging squad players does make it hard NOT to start getting a bit twitchy.

    I've no doubt that everyone is working hard but it's results that matter and I'll be happier once we see some actual signings made.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,593
    RedJohn said:
    Received a message saying we are interested in Josh Martin loan from Norwich, who knows.
    how dare you come on here with an actual rumour ...
  • lancashire lad
    lancashire lad Posts: 15,630
    A striker who can play 90 mins must be better than one who can only play 50ish minutes, that is assuming he can score goals
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,509
    thenewbie said:
    As much as Sandgaard, Adkins and co deserve a chance to do their thing, having signed one first choice player and two aging squad players does make it hard NOT to start getting a bit twitchy.

    I've no doubt that everyone is working hard but it's results that matter and I'll be happier once we see some actual signings made.
    Stockley is still the best deal out of all that’s happened in league one at present .. looked at the deals and not seen one that jumps out as a missed target ….. As Warnock said football wakes up July 1st .. still time to go till Aug and more time till the window shuts .
  • king addick
    king addick Posts: 3,705
    Maccn05 said:
    Chuks will be a massive loss for us next season. You can’t replace that quality in L1 without spending a lot of money or getting lucky.

    we can all moan about his injury problems but he still scored 15 goals and let’s face it if he was fit we’d be looking at a £4-5m player.

    On Chuks part you can’t blame and he’s done nothing wrong and left in the right way.

    Right now we are left looking significantly weaker than last season with no incomings rumoured.
    Clubs will be holding there cards close to there chest & we are very much doing the same it seems.

    Actions speak louder than words and I would rather not hear a peep and the club just get business sorted. 
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,355
    edited June 2021
    DOUCHER said:
    It would make sense if Chucks went to Birmingham - Bowyer knows his problems, Chucks has Championship ability, Chucks will likely want Championship pay despite his problems and Chucks was apparently the only player to wish Bowyer well following his departure and for some reason his playing time seemed to drop off dramatically under Adkins.
    I agree with all that, but I do have to point out that it was you who first circulated the rumour about Chuks falling out with LB, about him supposedly making Williams cry. 

    I only bring it up because a lot of fans seem to be holding a grudge over that, but it doesn't seem to be holding much weight.
  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,267
    edited June 2021
    edit
  • Addickhead86
    Addickhead86 Posts: 1,151
    Seeing that NA said that he wanted to have most of his squad signed by the start of pre season training are we to assume that he wasn't able to sign his targets & are now looking at 2nd/3rd/4th targets ?
    Maybe he hasn't yet been able to sign them?

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  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,236
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Rothko said:
    If he wants to go then fine, good luck to him, time to move on innit 
    Only if it's true....... 
    That’s worth remembering. Have a feeling though that Birmingham or another will announce Chuks next Thursday. I think he’s intent on departing. Whatever Nigel said to him obviously didn’t work. 
    Why "obviously"?

    We don't know the state of play.

    Maybe Chuks never had any intention of re-signing, maybe he wants to stay and is completing his medical as I type, maybe he's playing one club off against another to get himself the best deal, maybe he's at St Andrews holding a blue shirt.

    We just don't know, it's not obvious.

    People asking "can we panic now?"   Sure, go ahead but won't make any difference.

    Me, I want to see some signings and the sooner the better but since I can't control that not going to get uptight about it.

    WIOTOS

    99% of what we discuss here "won't make any difference" though...
    Absolutely which is why I occasionally and politely suggest that we withhold judgement until there is a notification on the official site of either Charlton Athletic or another association football club
  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,267
    Seeing that NA said that he wanted to have most of his squad signed by the start of pre season training are we to assume that he wasn't able to sign his targets & are now looking at 2nd/3rd/4th targets ?
    Maybe he hasn't yet been able to sign them?
    Bugger you were quick, I edited as soon as posted
  • Addickhead86
    Addickhead86 Posts: 1,151
    Seeing that NA said that he wanted to have most of his squad signed by the start of pre season training are we to assume that he wasn't able to sign his targets & are now looking at 2nd/3rd/4th targets ?
    Maybe he hasn't yet been able to sign them?
    Bugger you were quick, I edited as soon as posted
    Too much time on my hands!
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,236
    RedJohn said:
    Received a message saying we are interested in Josh Martin loan from Norwich, who knows.
    5'10" winger who played 9 times for Norwich in the league last season, scoring one.  Played five times in the prem the year before. 19YO
  • Covered_End_Lad
    Covered_End_Lad Posts: 5,726
    If Stockley had scored 12 goals in the second half of the season for Portsmouth last year and we'd signed him for a fee this season we'd be going crazy.

    Its because he was here on a loan people take it for granted that he's signed. 
    If he had scored 12 in the second half of the year for us last season we probably would have been in the playoffs....

    P.s I am only joking, thought he was excellent for us but he scored 8 not 12.
  • masicat
    masicat Posts: 5,008
    Having posted on here for quite sometime.
    I have now.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    So Stockley didn't buy a house in Bexley or Chislehurst and he didn't, nor his agent, play one club off against another. 
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,733
    Chuks hasn't gone to Birmingham yet. Surely all we know is that they would be interested or is there something else I have missed?
  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,075
    Chuks leaving for the Championship has been obvious since all the contract talks stalled earlier in the year.


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