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In the last 5 months Billings has played for the Thunder, England and Kent the grand total of 11 games. He's batted 10 times and amassed a total of 175 runs but in none of those innings has he faced as many as 30 balls.
Billings is 30 now but says that he has aspirations to break into the Test side. He made his First Class debut over 10 years ago but has only played 71 matches in that discipline during that time and I really do not see how you can do that if you only play one or two CC matches a year. Why else did Bracey get the opportunity in front of him? No one could realistically argue that Billings isn't the better glove man and their averages are very similar.
This will continue to do so all the time he is happy to be utilised as a bit part player and drinks carrier by England. Sadly, I think that he wants his cake and to eat it too.
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Perhaps he is the permanent drinks carrier because he doesn’t complain about it. Can’t see many players being happy with how he has been treated by England.Addick Addict said:In the last 5 months Billings has played for the Thunder, England and Kent the grand total of 11 games. He's batted 10 times and amassed a total of 175 runs but in none of those innings has he faced as many as 30 balls.
Billings is 30 now but says that he has aspirations to break into the Test side. He made his First Class debut over 10 years ago but has only played 71 matches in that discipline during that time and I really do not see how you can do that if you only play one or two CC matches a year. Why else did Bracey get the opportunity in front of him? No one could realistically argue that Billings isn't the better glove man and their averages are very similar.
This will continue to do so all the time he is happy to be utilised as a bit part player and drinks carrier by England. Sadly, I think that he wants his cake and to eat it too.Surely more mileage for England to bring in talented youngsters to get them in and about the squad ?0 -
I think therein lies in the issue and England will use him as such because he is a great fielder as well as being a decent keeper, covering three disciplines at once. The money also helps but it's not as if he hasn't got a bob or two anyway!billysboots said:
Perhaps he is the permanent drinks carrier because he doesn’t complain about it. Can’t see many players being happy with how he has been treated by England.Addick Addict said:In the last 5 months Billings has played for the Thunder, England and Kent the grand total of 11 games. He's batted 10 times and amassed a total of 175 runs but in none of those innings has he faced as many as 30 balls.
Billings is 30 now but says that he has aspirations to break into the Test side. He made his First Class debut over 10 years ago but has only played 71 matches in that discipline during that time and I really do not see how you can do that if you only play one or two CC matches a year. Why else did Bracey get the opportunity in front of him? No one could realistically argue that Billings isn't the better glove man and their averages are very similar.
This will continue to do so all the time he is happy to be utilised as a bit part player and drinks carrier by England. Sadly, I think that he wants his cake and to eat it too.Surely more mileage for England to bring in talented youngsters to get them in and about the squad ?1 -
"England need to make another 70 runs in 30 minutes if they want to watch the start of the football"Covered End said:I can see England trying to smash these off in quick time so they can watch the football.
"Root plays out a maiden to furious booing from the England balcony"1 -
So, does he still get paid by Kent ? Hardly feels as though he is a team player these days....Addick Addict said:
I think therein lies in the issue and England will use him as such because he is a great fielder as well as being a decent keeper, covering three disciplines at once. The money also helps but it's not as if he hasn't got a bob or two anyway!billysboots said:
Perhaps he is the permanent drinks carrier because he doesn’t complain about it. Can’t see many players being happy with how he has been treated by England.Addick Addict said:In the last 5 months Billings has played for the Thunder, England and Kent the grand total of 11 games. He's batted 10 times and amassed a total of 175 runs but in none of those innings has he faced as many as 30 balls.
Billings is 30 now but says that he has aspirations to break into the Test side. He made his First Class debut over 10 years ago but has only played 71 matches in that discipline during that time and I really do not see how you can do that if you only play one or two CC matches a year. Why else did Bracey get the opportunity in front of him? No one could realistically argue that Billings isn't the better glove man and their averages are very similar.
This will continue to do so all the time he is happy to be utilised as a bit part player and drinks carrier by England. Sadly, I think that he wants his cake and to eat it too.Surely more mileage for England to bring in talented youngsters to get them in and about the squad ?0 -
I believe England will pick up his wages when he isn't available for Kent as well as paying him appearance money. What I'm not clear on is, as he isn't centrally contracted, what is paid to him for being a squad player and for touring. Presumably there is an additional payment of some sort.Fanny Fanackapan said:
So, does he still get paid by Kent ? Hardly feels as though he is a team player these days....Addick Addict said:
I think therein lies in the issue and England will use him as such because he is a great fielder as well as being a decent keeper, covering three disciplines at once. The money also helps but it's not as if he hasn't got a bob or two anyway!billysboots said:
Perhaps he is the permanent drinks carrier because he doesn’t complain about it. Can’t see many players being happy with how he has been treated by England.Addick Addict said:In the last 5 months Billings has played for the Thunder, England and Kent the grand total of 11 games. He's batted 10 times and amassed a total of 175 runs but in none of those innings has he faced as many as 30 balls.
Billings is 30 now but says that he has aspirations to break into the Test side. He made his First Class debut over 10 years ago but has only played 71 matches in that discipline during that time and I really do not see how you can do that if you only play one or two CC matches a year. Why else did Bracey get the opportunity in front of him? No one could realistically argue that Billings isn't the better glove man and their averages are very similar.
This will continue to do so all the time he is happy to be utilised as a bit part player and drinks carrier by England. Sadly, I think that he wants his cake and to eat it too.Surely more mileage for England to bring in talented youngsters to get them in and about the squad ?0 -
And yet if he hadn't had that injury he would have been a world cup winner! He would have come in when Roy was injured and killed done a lot better than Vince.billysboots said:
Perhaps he is the permanent drinks carrier because he doesn’t complain about it. Can’t see many players being happy with how he has been treated by England.Addick Addict said:In the last 5 months Billings has played for the Thunder, England and Kent the grand total of 11 games. He's batted 10 times and amassed a total of 175 runs but in none of those innings has he faced as many as 30 balls.
Billings is 30 now but says that he has aspirations to break into the Test side. He made his First Class debut over 10 years ago but has only played 71 matches in that discipline during that time and I really do not see how you can do that if you only play one or two CC matches a year. Why else did Bracey get the opportunity in front of him? No one could realistically argue that Billings isn't the better glove man and their averages are very similar.
This will continue to do so all the time he is happy to be utilised as a bit part player and drinks carrier by England. Sadly, I think that he wants his cake and to eat it too.Surely more mileage for England to bring in talented youngsters to get them in and about the squad ?2 -
cantersaddick said:
And yet if he hadn't had that injury he would have been a world cup winner! He would have come in when Roy was injured and killed done a lot better than Vince.billysboots said:
Perhaps he is the permanent drinks carrier because he doesn’t complain about it. Can’t see many players being happy with how he has been treated by England.Addick Addict said:In the last 5 months Billings has played for the Thunder, England and Kent the grand total of 11 games. He's batted 10 times and amassed a total of 175 runs but in none of those innings has he faced as many as 30 balls.
Billings is 30 now but says that he has aspirations to break into the Test side. He made his First Class debut over 10 years ago but has only played 71 matches in that discipline during that time and I really do not see how you can do that if you only play one or two CC matches a year. Why else did Bracey get the opportunity in front of him? No one could realistically argue that Billings isn't the better glove man and their averages are very similar.
This will continue to do so all the time he is happy to be utilised as a bit part player and drinks carrier by England. Sadly, I think that he wants his cake and to eat it too.Surely more mileage for England to bring in talented youngsters to get them in and about the squad ?
Roy was killed? My god that's the trouble with cricinfo fatal injuries to England players are ignored in favour of a kohli love in ..they know their market don't they1 -
Lol no idea what I was actually trying to type there....lolwray said:cantersaddick said:
And yet if he hadn't had that injury he would have been a world cup winner! He would have come in when Roy was injured and killed done a lot better than Vince.billysboots said:
Perhaps he is the permanent drinks carrier because he doesn’t complain about it. Can’t see many players being happy with how he has been treated by England.Addick Addict said:In the last 5 months Billings has played for the Thunder, England and Kent the grand total of 11 games. He's batted 10 times and amassed a total of 175 runs but in none of those innings has he faced as many as 30 balls.
Billings is 30 now but says that he has aspirations to break into the Test side. He made his First Class debut over 10 years ago but has only played 71 matches in that discipline during that time and I really do not see how you can do that if you only play one or two CC matches a year. Why else did Bracey get the opportunity in front of him? No one could realistically argue that Billings isn't the better glove man and their averages are very similar.
This will continue to do so all the time he is happy to be utilised as a bit part player and drinks carrier by England. Sadly, I think that he wants his cake and to eat it too.Surely more mileage for England to bring in talented youngsters to get them in and about the squad ?
Roy was killed? My god that's the trouble with cricinfo fatal injuries to England players are ignored in favour of a kohli love in ..they know their market don't they0 -
cantersaddick said:
Lol no idea what I was actually trying to type there....lolwray said:cantersaddick said:
And yet if he hadn't had that injury he would have been a world cup winner! He would have come in when Roy was injured and killed done a lot better than Vince.billysboots said:
Perhaps he is the permanent drinks carrier because he doesn’t complain about it. Can’t see many players being happy with how he has been treated by England.Addick Addict said:In the last 5 months Billings has played for the Thunder, England and Kent the grand total of 11 games. He's batted 10 times and amassed a total of 175 runs but in none of those innings has he faced as many as 30 balls.
Billings is 30 now but says that he has aspirations to break into the Test side. He made his First Class debut over 10 years ago but has only played 71 matches in that discipline during that time and I really do not see how you can do that if you only play one or two CC matches a year. Why else did Bracey get the opportunity in front of him? No one could realistically argue that Billings isn't the better glove man and their averages are very similar.
This will continue to do so all the time he is happy to be utilised as a bit part player and drinks carrier by England. Sadly, I think that he wants his cake and to eat it too.Surely more mileage for England to bring in talented youngsters to get them in and about the squad ?
Roy was killed? My god that's the trouble with cricinfo fatal injuries to England players are ignored in favour of a kohli love in ..they know their market don't they
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Good night was it Canters?cantersaddick said:
And yet if he hadn't had that injury he would have been a world cup winner! He would have come in when Roy was injured and killed done a lot better than Vince.billysboots said:
Perhaps he is the permanent drinks carrier because he doesn’t complain about it. Can’t see many players being happy with how he has been treated by England.Addick Addict said:In the last 5 months Billings has played for the Thunder, England and Kent the grand total of 11 games. He's batted 10 times and amassed a total of 175 runs but in none of those innings has he faced as many as 30 balls.
Billings is 30 now but says that he has aspirations to break into the Test side. He made his First Class debut over 10 years ago but has only played 71 matches in that discipline during that time and I really do not see how you can do that if you only play one or two CC matches a year. Why else did Bracey get the opportunity in front of him? No one could realistically argue that Billings isn't the better glove man and their averages are very similar.
This will continue to do so all the time he is happy to be utilised as a bit part player and drinks carrier by England. Sadly, I think that he wants his cake and to eat it too.Surely more mileage for England to bring in talented youngsters to get them in and about the squad ?2 -
Excellent!Addick Addict said:
Good night was it Canters?cantersaddick said:
And yet if he hadn't had that injury he would have been a world cup winner! He would have come in when Roy was injured and killed done a lot better than Vince.billysboots said:
Perhaps he is the permanent drinks carrier because he doesn’t complain about it. Can’t see many players being happy with how he has been treated by England.Addick Addict said:In the last 5 months Billings has played for the Thunder, England and Kent the grand total of 11 games. He's batted 10 times and amassed a total of 175 runs but in none of those innings has he faced as many as 30 balls.
Billings is 30 now but says that he has aspirations to break into the Test side. He made his First Class debut over 10 years ago but has only played 71 matches in that discipline during that time and I really do not see how you can do that if you only play one or two CC matches a year. Why else did Bracey get the opportunity in front of him? No one could realistically argue that Billings isn't the better glove man and their averages are very similar.
This will continue to do so all the time he is happy to be utilised as a bit part player and drinks carrier by England. Sadly, I think that he wants his cake and to eat it too.Surely more mileage for England to bring in talented youngsters to get them in and about the squad ?0 -
Good news that the England vs Pakistan ODI at Lord's will be going ahead at 100% capacity, as it's a government test event. Just been sent a long email, but highlights includeAdmission to the match, for all ticket holders aged 11 and over, will be subject to providing evidence of your COVID-19 Status.Ticket holders from England will be required to provide:
proof of a negative LFD demonstrated via a text message or email from NHS Test and Trace or via the NHS App; or
proof of full vaccination - both doses received at least 14 days prior to the match demonstrated via the NHS App; or
proof of natural immunity from proof of a positive PCR in the last 180 days (and not in the last 10 days)
In addition to the above, each spectator (aged 11 and over) is asked to provide their personal details and, should they wish, to consent to partake in the scientific study being run at the match as part of the ERP. This will aid the research being conducted to support the safe return of crowds to sporting events. It is not mandatory, or a condition of entry, but it is important to be aware of the details. More information can be found here.5 -
And here we go again - England win the toss and elect to bowl. According to Morgan it's a "tried and tested formula". Disappointing.0
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Woakes "dropped" after this 5 fer in the last game and replaced by Tom Curran who has 3 for 447 in his last 10 ODIs. Another "tried and tested formula".3
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Addick Addict said:Woakes "dropped" after this 5 fer in the last game and replaced by Tom Curran who has 3 for 447 in his last 10 ODIs. Another "tried and tested formula".
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This could be a very short match, Sri Lanka already 2 down and they're not in double figures yet, plus they've used up/wasted both of their reviews.
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12-3 all to S Curran.0
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Johnnysummers5 said:Addick Addict said:Woakes "dropped" after this 5 fer in the last game and replaced by Tom Curran who has 3 for 447 in his last 10 ODIs. Another "tried and tested formula".
We are the World Cup holders, Morgan must be getting something right
Woakes has hardly played a game and is being rested again.
I am not disputing Morgan's captaincy but don't get his desire to bat first against an extremely poor team. We should be, for once, thinking about those who have paid decent money to watch a game of cricket. Where is the kudos in beating such a poor outfit this way?
Equally, now 12-3 so what are we going to learn about the batsmen who don't ordinarily play like Billings if we are chasing next to nothing
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I'm going to say 84 all out0
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This. At least bat first & give the public something to watch - for for some of the "fringe" batsmen to get some time in the middle.Addick Addict said:Johnnysummers5 said:Addick Addict said:Woakes "dropped" after this 5 fer in the last game and replaced by Tom Curran who has 3 for 447 in his last 10 ODIs. Another "tried and tested formula".
We are the World Cup holders, Morgan must be getting something right
Woakes has hardly played a game and is being rested again.
I am not disputing Morgan's captaincy but don't get his desire to bat first against an extremely poor team. We should be, for once, thinking about those who have paid decent money to watch a game of cricket. Where is the kudos in beating such a poor outfit this way?
Equally, now 12-3 so what are we going to learn about the batsmen who don't ordinarily play like Billings if we are chasing next to nothing
What do we learn from this, apart from we can keep getting Sri Lanka 30-3 off 10 overs & having to chase 200 (if its a 50 over match) or 100 if its a T20.1 -
Especially when someone like Billings has batted 7 times and faced the grand total of 124 balls for club and country since he went on the tour to India - that is less than one ball a daygolfaddick said:
This. At least bat first & give the public something to watch - for for some of the "fringe" batsmen to get some time in the middle.Addick Addict said:Johnnysummers5 said:Addick Addict said:Woakes "dropped" after this 5 fer in the last game and replaced by Tom Curran who has 3 for 447 in his last 10 ODIs. Another "tried and tested formula".
We are the World Cup holders, Morgan must be getting something right
Woakes has hardly played a game and is being rested again.
I am not disputing Morgan's captaincy but don't get his desire to bat first against an extremely poor team. We should be, for once, thinking about those who have paid decent money to watch a game of cricket. Where is the kudos in beating such a poor outfit this way?
Equally, now 12-3 so what are we going to learn about the batsmen who don't ordinarily play like Billings if we are chasing next to nothing
What do we learn from this, apart from we can keep getting Sri Lanka 30-3 off 10 overs & having to chase 200 (if its a 50 over match) or 100 if its a T20.
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There again, it looks like Morgan's whispered in Sam Curran's ear and asked him to bowl a few half volleys and long hops!0
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Why is Tom Curran in this squad? 30 career ODI wickets at 40.40 and an economy rate of 6.12. Why not take the opportunity to look at Garton instead?1
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I don't think Morgan does have a desire to bat first.Addick Addict said:Johnnysummers5 said:Addick Addict said:Woakes "dropped" after this 5 fer in the last game and replaced by Tom Curran who has 3 for 447 in his last 10 ODIs. Another "tried and tested formula".
We are the World Cup holders, Morgan must be getting something right
Woakes has hardly played a game and is being rested again.
I am not disputing Morgan's captaincy but don't get his desire to bat first against an extremely poor team. We should be, for once, thinking about those who have paid decent money to watch a game of cricket. Where is the kudos in beating such a poor outfit this way?
Equally, now 12-3 so what are we going to learn about the batsmen who don't ordinarily play like Billings if we are chasing next to nothing1 -
Chizz said:
I don't think Morgan does have a desire to bat first.Addick Addict said:Johnnysummers5 said:Addick Addict said:Woakes "dropped" after this 5 fer in the last game and replaced by Tom Curran who has 3 for 447 in his last 10 ODIs. Another "tried and tested formula".
We are the World Cup holders, Morgan must be getting something right
Woakes has hardly played a game and is being rested again.
I am not disputing Morgan's captaincy but don't get his desire to bat first against an extremely poor team. We should be, for once, thinking about those who have paid decent money to watch a game of cricket. Where is the kudos in beating such a poor outfit this way?
Equally, now 12-3 so what are we going to learn about the batsmen who don't ordinarily play like Billings if we are chasing next to nothing
Well spotted - "desire to bat second"1 -
Garton probably was overlooked because Sam Curran and David Willey were selected as the opening bowling pair and they didn't want a third, left arm seamer.Addick Addict said:Why is Tom Curran in this squad? 30 career ODI wickets at 40.40 and an economy rate of 6.12. Why not take the opportunity to look at Garton instead?0 -
I agree he needs the time out of the side - he hasnt done enough in an England shirt for a while - I can see their reasoning. England need a back up death bowler for the T20s. Someone behind Archer and Jordan, not likely to play but in the squad as a backup. The majority of the rest of our quick bowlers are openers or middle over bowlers. With Topley frustratingly injured again and Mills unable to play this format why not give TC a go. I dont really see any other death bowling options out there.Addick Addict said:Why is Tom Curran in this squad? 30 career ODI wickets at 40.40 and an economy rate of 6.12. Why not take the opportunity to look at Garton instead?0 -
Chizz said:
Garton probably was overlooked because Sam Curran and David Willey were selected as the opening bowling pair and they didn't want a third, left arm seamer.Addick Addict said:Why is Tom Curran in this squad? 30 career ODI wickets at 40.40 and an economy rate of 6.12. Why not take the opportunity to look at Garton instead?
I figured that too. But we never worry about having nothing but right armers in a side when we have no other option. And why not select Garton to replace Willey? If we do not know now what Willey is capable of delivering now we never will.
It should be about experimenting and giving some unexposed players a chance to show what they can do.0 -
Addick Addict said:There again, it looks like Morgan's whispered in Sam Curran's ear and asked him to bowl a few half volleys and long hops!
That is rubbish.0
