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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,763
    edited July 2021
    For me... 70% vs Denmark, 40% vs Italy
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,446
    sam3110 said:
    Italy haven't lost in 2 years, and haven't gone behind in their last 20 games.

    Yes they haven't looked immense tonight, but anyone thinking they are anything but a formidable opponent in a final, needs to think again
    Yeah but we didn't concede to Ukraine. So who are really the favourites here? 
    Why have you suddenly gone back to negative nelly? It’s so weird.
    Just think the underrating of some of these sides is absurd. 

    For instance beating Belgium (one of the favourites of the tournament) by only one goal is seen as a negative. 
    Belgium were favourites with Hazard and De Bruyne... no hazard and de bruyne playing with a snapped Achilles means Italy struggled past 10 men really...
    Hazard isn't even in their top 5 players currently. His brother is a better player than he is at the moment. 

    The worrying thing about Italy is that they managed to keep Lukaku very quiet during the game. A player with a very similar set of skills to Kane. We need Kane finding space in the box if we're going to win the final. If we get there of course. 
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,446
    edited July 2021
    sam3110 said:
    Italy haven't lost in 2 years, and haven't gone behind in their last 20 games.

    Yes they haven't looked immense tonight, but anyone thinking they are anything but a formidable opponent in a final, needs to think again
    Yeah but we didn't concede to Ukraine. So who are really the favourites here? 
    Why have you suddenly gone back to negative nelly? It’s so weird.
    Just think the underrating of some of these sides is absurd. 

    For instance beating Belgium (one of the favourites of the tournament) by only one goal is seen as a negative. 
    Who is underrating? The main contributors to the England threads do anything but that. 
    The idea we're the favourites for the game if/when we play them. 

    It's at best 50/50. They've knocked out the top ranking side in the tournament Belgium, Spain and haven't been behind in a game for 2 years. 

    They played this game without their best player and didn't look too troubled. 
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    We should only look to Denmark, not beyond that game.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    England have a semi final to play tomorrow night, if I was the England manager the players would be watching Denmark's matches this evening and pointing out weaknesses and ways to exploit the Danes.

    The Italians has no bearing on England  until 10pm or 10 30 pm tomorrow night.

    If England win the analysis starts on ways to win the final on Thursday. And they can watch the Italy v Spain match and find weaknesses. 
  • CAFCsayer
    CAFCsayer Posts: 10,223
    We comfortably beat Denmark 2-0 and then beat italy with a 94th minute winner from Grealish/Slabhead and the whole of the UK is totally unfunctioning for 2 weeks as everyone is drunk
  • ken_shabby
    ken_shabby Posts: 6,255
    Thats the first time ever Spain have got to the  semi final  in this competition and not gone through.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    CAFCsayer said:
    We comfortably beat Denmark 2-0 and then beat italy with a 94th minute winner from Grealish/Slabhead and the whole of the UK is totally unfunctioning for 2 weeks as everyone is drunk
    National holiday called for on a change org page, first one to get 30m signatures... Is ignored by the Govmnt.
  • StrikerFirmani
    StrikerFirmani Posts: 2,742
    I think Spain tonight showed that Italy are not as good as I thought they were and the cynical part of their game comes out once they are under the cosh. However it show they are not easy to beat either. 

    If we do get through to the final I wouldn't write us off after watching Italy against another good side, Spain.    
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  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    Derek Guyler with the tactics board there for Italy. 

    Great wig as well.
  • SE7toSG3
    SE7toSG3 Posts: 3,140
    The only people I hear mentioning England fans taking things for granted are nervous England fans moaning about non existent England fans taking things for granted. 

    It's a semi final, anything can happen but, we have shown enough to me to suggest that we are equipped to go further if we stay focussed on who we play next and not worrying about who we may play after that. 
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,353
    If we beat Denmark which I'm about 90% confident we will and get outplayed by that Italy side it will be embarrassing. Very cynical team and were desperate to get to penalties, small nations do that, not big footballing nations. Outplayed for the whole game practically and got away with it, unfortunately for them if they play us we have players who can find the back of the net. Cannot wait for tomorrow
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    So many going all Golfie on this thread.

    3-0 against Denmark
    2-0 against Italy 

    Piece of piss.
  • KBslittlesis
    KBslittlesis Posts: 8,602
    Simon’s dancing on the line is really effective 
    100%
    so why did he stop?
    bizarre 🤷‍♀️😳
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,727
    We should only look to Denmark, not beyond that game.
    That's what the team should be doing, we can look ahead as far as we like. 
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,353
    You would honestly think they had 9 men
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,727
    sam3110 said:
    Italy haven't lost in 2 years, and haven't gone behind in their last 20 games.

    Yes they haven't looked immense tonight, but anyone thinking they are anything but a formidable opponent in a final, needs to think again
    Yeah but we didn't concede to Ukraine. So who are really the favourites here? 
    Why have you suddenly gone back to negative nelly? It’s so weird.
    Just think the underrating of some of these sides is absurd. 

    For instance beating Belgium (one of the favourites of the tournament) by only one goal is seen as a negative. 
    Who is underrating? The main contributors to the England threads do anything but that. 
    The idea we're the favourites for the game if/when we play them. 

    It's at best 50/50. They've knocked out the top ranking side in the tournament Belgium, Spain and haven't been behind in a game for 2 years. 

    They played this game without their best player and didn't look too troubled. 
    All cup final football is 50/50, but we'd be at Wembley in front of a heavily home crowd. That has to make us a slight favourite.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,842
    Croydon said:
    sam3110 said:
    Italy haven't lost in 2 years, and haven't gone behind in their last 20 games.

    Yes they haven't looked immense tonight, but anyone thinking they are anything but a formidable opponent in a final, needs to think again
    Yeah but we didn't concede to Ukraine. So who are really the favourites here? 
    Why have you suddenly gone back to negative nelly? It’s so weird.
    Just think the underrating of some of these sides is absurd. 

    For instance beating Belgium (one of the favourites of the tournament) by only one goal is seen as a negative. 
    Who is underrating? The main contributors to the England threads do anything but that. 
    The idea we're the favourites for the game if/when we play them. 

    It's at best 50/50. They've knocked out the top ranking side in the tournament Belgium, Spain and haven't been behind in a game for 2 years. 

    They played this game without their best player and didn't look too troubled. 
    All cup final football is 50/50, but we'd be at Wembley in front of a heavily home crowd. That has to make us a slight favourite.
    As long as all the Italians there tonight don't get tickets!
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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,763
    Croydon said:
    sam3110 said:
    Italy haven't lost in 2 years, and haven't gone behind in their last 20 games.

    Yes they haven't looked immense tonight, but anyone thinking they are anything but a formidable opponent in a final, needs to think again
    Yeah but we didn't concede to Ukraine. So who are really the favourites here? 
    Why have you suddenly gone back to negative nelly? It’s so weird.
    Just think the underrating of some of these sides is absurd. 

    For instance beating Belgium (one of the favourites of the tournament) by only one goal is seen as a negative. 
    Who is underrating? The main contributors to the England threads do anything but that. 
    The idea we're the favourites for the game if/when we play them. 

    It's at best 50/50. They've knocked out the top ranking side in the tournament Belgium, Spain and haven't been behind in a game for 2 years. 

    They played this game without their best player and didn't look too troubled. 
    All cup final football is 50/50, but we'd be at Wembley in front of a heavily home crowd. That has to make us a slight favourite.
    Are all semi finals also 50/50? We’re playing on ITV tomorrow night so surely that makes the Danes favourites…
  • Siv_in_Norfolk
    Siv_in_Norfolk Posts: 4,057
    Anybody else see the steward trying to make Chellini go "back" into the crowd 
  • Blucher
    Blucher Posts: 4,135
    That was a game out of the top drawer, even if the tempo unsurprisingly dropped in extra time and the Italians started to increase the foul count as they began to run out of steam and penalties loomed.

    What a shame for Morata after coming on, playing so well and finishing beautifully for the equaliser (although I never fancied him scoring that penalty). Busquets was an oasis of calm and I love watching Pedri. I also like Thiago as a player but my impression was that he gave the ball away more in the 15 minutes he was on than the rest of the Spanish midfield in the previous 105 minutes. He almost singlehandedly changed the tone of the game and gave the Italians cause for optimism. 

    If England manage to prevail against the Danes, the physical and emotional drain of extra time and penalties on the Italians won’t do our chances any harm. Italy are tough and skilful opponents but by no means unbeatable and 33 match unbeaten runs have to end sometime. They would also certainly find England’s array of pacy attacking talent much harder to handle that their Spanish opponents tonight.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,763
    Question for the forum goers...

    England win the Euros, first major silverware since 66
    OR
    Charlton get back to back promotions, playing Premier League football in 2023. Let's also throw a 2024 FA Cup win into the mix for a bit of fun.

    Which do you choose?
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,975
    Question for the forum goers...

    England win the Euros, first major silverware since 66
    OR
    Charlton get back to back promotions, playing Premier League football in 2023. Let's also throw a 2024 FA Cup win into the mix for a bit of fun.

    Which do you choose?
    England all day long.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,314
    Premier League football AND an FA Cup win?! I'd have said Charlton with either one let alone both
  • cafcsinger
    cafcsinger Posts: 5,548
    Charlton all day long, everyday. Come on its your club who you follow day in day out. 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,255
    Charlton, in that case I'd take Scotland winning the world cup if it guaranteed us being back where we belong
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    edited July 2021
    Anybody else see the steward trying to make Chellini go "back" into the crowd 

    I did, but it wasn't Chiellini, it was his CB partner Leonardo Bonucci who looked bemused when the female steward tried to stop him. I wanted the camera to linger on Bonucci as it was a case of mistaken identity with the Italian fan behind him.
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,145
    Charlton,  without a sniff, as brilliant as winning this is i looked at our fixture list yesterday and fuck me this league is shit and nothing about it excites , that’s without the u21 competition our first team enter ffs 
    Euros as well , it’s hardly the World Cup , the Copa America Final of Brazil v Argentina reminds you that this is a downgrade from the ultimate prize for England .
    I’d take the Championship or an FA Cup win over winning Euros 
    World Cup I’d swap for Premier League or FA Cup