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Insulate Britain Protests (Blackwall Tunnel p22)

Justin20474
Justin20474 Posts: 756
edited October 2021 in Not Sports Related
As is we don’t have enough problems with traffic. Protesters blocking blue star roundabout at M25. We are going away for a couple of days in Brighton today, will make the journey a bit longer.
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  • redman
    redman Posts: 5,285
    Complaining about climate change I believe. So block the roads. Result extra pollution! Stupidity in the extreme
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,559
    I am all for peaceful protesting but when it affects others going about their usual business then I think reasonable force should be used to remove them.
  • SuedeAdidas
    SuedeAdidas Posts: 7,737
    edited September 2021
    redman said:
    Complaining about climate change I believe. So block the roads. Result extra pollution! Stupidity in the extreme
    They will not be viewing it in that way though will they? 

    Their view will surely be that if protests help to push governments into a set of actions to 'save the planet' - then occasional incremental polution increases as a result of their protests will be justified.

    EDIT - I in no way agree with their actions here - to be clear.
  • SuedeAdidas
    SuedeAdidas Posts: 7,737
    edited September 2021
    Rothko said:
    I am all for peaceful protesting but when it affects others going about their usual business then I think reasonable force should be used to remove them.
    please protest, just not in a way that anyone notices
    I would think that there is some level  of noticeable protest that sits between doing nothing - and blocking off the nations busiest motorway.
  • jacob_CAFC
    jacob_CAFC Posts: 2,063
    redman said:
    Complaining about climate change I believe. So block the roads. Result extra pollution! Stupidity in the extreme
    missing the point, a tiny miniscule bit of extra pollution is worth it for spreading the message
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,801
    turn ya engine off, no need to idle when your at a stop 
  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,142
    Don't these protestors work for a living, if yes they can hardly be doing anything worthwhile that they can afford to be missed for that period, yeah i know all on annual leave...
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,484
    Always does me that they target Joe Public, most of whom agree there's a problem and would be happy with changes in law and legislation to help reduce climate change. If they want to take a bit of direct action, try blocking some of the factories within about a 10 miles radius of Dartford ffs
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  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,484
    Don't these protestors work for a living, if yes they can hardly be doing anything worthwhile that they can afford to be missed for that period, yeah i know all on annual leave...
    Middle class folk taking their duvet days mate
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,801
    Gribbo said:
    Always does me that they target Joe Public, most of whom agree there's a problem and would be happy with changes in law and legislation to help reduce climate change. If they want to take a bit of direct action, try blocking some of the factories within about a 10 miles radius of Dartford ffs
    again, this is more, you can protest, but do it in a way that doesn't get attention or a wider point. 
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,314
    Have all sorts of mixed feelings about this. I agree that targeting major industrial polluters directly would be a better look and gain more sympathy, but is it also more likely to land the protesters in major legal trouble? Should one be a martyr for the cause? Is publicity enough? 

    Road traffic is a major source of pollution but it doesn't have to be. Protest the manufacturers who aren't going electric. Protest Shell. 
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,484
    Rothko said:
    Gribbo said:
    Always does me that they target Joe Public, most of whom agree there's a problem and would be happy with changes in law and legislation to help reduce climate change. If they want to take a bit of direct action, try blocking some of the factories within about a 10 miles radius of Dartford ffs
    again, this is more, you can protest, but do it in a way that doesn't get attention or a wider point. 
    But they're inconveniencing people who aren't able to make a difference. Unless they think doing this will stop people driving. Think these protests are misguided 
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,314
    That said I am entirely sympathetic to this cause, so I can't feel too enraged. At least they're doing something about it, however misguided.

    A similar cause is the development of natural land (such as with this ghastly London Resort proposal). As far as I'm concern the more diggers they sabotage on those sites the better. Keep it targeted, keep it smart. 
  • Rothko said:
    I am all for peaceful protesting but when it affects others going about their usual business then I think reasonable force should be used to remove them.
    please protest, just not in a way that anyone notices
    I would think that there is some level  of noticeable protest that sits between doing nothing - and blocking off the nations busiest motorway.
    Interesting fact - the ‘motorway’ between the A2 junction and the tunnel is actually the A282 - as a result it’s not included in the Governments assessment of air quality next to motorways - massive con trick, as the air quality on that section of the ‘M25’ must be one of the worst in Europe a lot of the time
  • RedPanda
    RedPanda Posts: 4,986
    I've tried Google Maps - is the blue star roundabout the junction at the tunnel?
  • cafcsinger
    cafcsinger Posts: 5,548
    Wankers
  • RedPanda said:
    I've tried Google Maps - is the blue star roundabout the junction at the tunnel?
    No - it’s the big roundabout before that Kent side after A2 junction - it’s where you would come off for Dartford 
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  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,484
    They held it on that roundabout so the protesters can park their cars safely in Harvester car park. C****
  • just causing a nuisance to people who can’t do much - I understand this is about insulating homes - but let’s be honest these people would turn up to the opening of a vegetable crisp packet if it meant they can cause issues - morons need a good kicking. 
  • Gribbo said:
    They held it on that roundabout so the protesters can park their cars safely in Harvester car park. C****
    Hopefully all catalytic converters are stolen. 
  • literally run the fuckers over, the old bill will steam in on most scenarios but not when these poxy tree huggers are involved - drag them off the road and cuff them.

    the ones the other day that blocked the M25 for 4 hours, how on earth are they allowed to get away with that.
  • Gribbo said:
    They held it on that roundabout so the protesters can park their cars safely in Harvester car park. C****
    Hopefully all catalytic converters are stolen. 
    Or made to eat the salad 🥗 from there.
  • just causing a nuisance to people who can’t do much - I understand this is about insulating homes - but let’s be honest these people would turn up to the opening of a vegetable crisp packet if it meant they can cause issues - morons need a good kicking. 
    Rothko said:
    I am all for peaceful protesting but when it affects others going about their usual business then I think reasonable force should be used to remove them.
    please protest, just not in a way that anyone notices
    I would think that there is some level  of noticeable protest that sits between doing nothing - and blocking off the nations busiest motorway.
    Similarly - I would like to think that there is some way of policing the protesters that sits between doing nothing - and giving them a good kicking.
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,219
    They avoid Canning Town underground station now. Don’t want some hairy arsed pipe fitter dragging them off a roof of a tube train by their ankles again. 
  • Gribbo said:
    They held it on that roundabout so the protesters can park their cars safely in Harvester car park. C****
    Hopefully all catalytic converters are stolen. 
    I’m in my way - only 5 mins walk from my house 😃
  • iainment
    iainment Posts: 8,039
    You can’t make an omelette without breaking an egg.
    The point about protests is that it should be noticed. 
    I applaud the protesters on this as they are right about the climate change and the effects not having good insulation has on it.
  • just causing a nuisance to people who can’t do much - I understand this is about insulating homes - but let’s be honest these people would turn up to the opening of a vegetable crisp packet if it meant they can cause issues - morons need a good kicking. 
    Rothko said:
    I am all for peaceful protesting but when it affects others going about their usual business then I think reasonable force should be used to remove them.
    please protest, just not in a way that anyone notices
    I would think that there is some level  of noticeable protest that sits between doing nothing - and blocking off the nations busiest motorway.
    Similarly - I would like to think that there is some way of policing the protesters that sits between doing nothing - and giving them a good kicking.
    Nope bollocks to them - the one I saw yesterday holding his head as if he had been brutally assaulted - he was merely dragged about half a metre before the police intervened. It’s usual Britain though these wankers do what they like which they wouldn’t dare abroad. 

    The UK ranks 17th in world pollution table and we are taking steps to bring it down further. 

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