Post-match thread: Gillingham v Charlton 21/09/2021

MuttleyCAFC said:

LenGlover said:

DOUCHER said:

Bailey said:

If our player is on top of the two Gillingham players at the corner it limits their options, Albie arrives late and the Gills players now have options. This isn't the first time it's happened this season, we seem to be slow to cover the crossing positions, on this occasion Matthews is where he should be and its the midfielders job to Police the short corner. 

it was Lee, not morgan 

No, Morgan is the designated Charlton Life scapegoat! It has to be his fault!

I don't know whose job it was, but Lee was there up against two. It needed another defender when they went short. I said earlier, I thought it was Matthews, but it was whoever was given responsibility in case of a short corner, if anybody was.

Lee, (who i like), was clearly the man who was supposed to cover the short corner - he didn't and realised too late that it was happening - had he realised sooner, he'd have been marking / cut out the pass. If their second man had been next to the corner taker then yes, another defender would have been expected to be out there or on red alert to get out there but this looks squarely like it wa Lee's fault to me in that he wasn't switched on quickly enough to cutting out the relatively long pass to their other player  

I’m not sure if people are watching the same clip as me… https://youtu.be/hiweiAeLUHI



First, Lee goes with his man for the short corner as he should. He’s not able (and we shouldn’t expect him) to cut out the second pass back to the original corner taker who then takes a shot on goal.

No-one is standing on the left edge of our D. It’s certainly not Albie, he’s in the six yard box defending which is a bit of a weird choice but means it definitely was not his responsibility either.

Someone out of shot further up the field hasn’t switched on or been told to watch out for short corners. Looks like CBT was the only man up field when the camera pans back towards halfway.

Leko was on the edge of the penalty area handling their no. 10 Olly Lee. It should’ve been him going out and CBT dropping to help mark the edge of the box.

But honestly, I’m going to put that one down to bad coaching rather than a particular player error. Why aren’t our players prepared for this and know what to do? Why is Albie (one of our shortest players) man marking in the six yard box?

Bailey said:

If our player is on top of the two Gillingham players at the corner it limits their options, Albie arrives late and the Gills players now have options. This isn't the first time it's happened this season, we seem to be slow to cover the crossing positions, on this occasion Matthews is where he should be and its the midfielders job to Police the short corner. 

Albie was furious at Lee when the goal went in, he spent 30 seconds after the goal screaming at him. Considering Albie was deep in the box, and his reaction to goal, you can assume it wasn’t his job to close down short corners.

Callumcafc said:

First, Lee goes with his man for the short corner as he should. He’s not able (and we shouldn’t expect him) to cut out the second pass back to the original corner taker who then takes a shot on goal.

No-one is standing on the left edge of our D. It’s certainly not Albie, he’s in the six yard box defending which is a bit of a weird choice but means it definitely was not his responsibility either.

Someone out of shot further up the field hasn’t switched on or been told to watch out for short corners. Looks like CBT was the only man up field when the camera pans back towards halfway.

Leko was on the edge of the penalty area handling their no. 10 Olly Lee. It should’ve been him going out and CBT dropping to help mark the edge of the box.

But honestly, I’m going to put that one down to bad coaching rather than a particular player error. Why aren’t our players prepared for this and know what to do? Why is Albie (one of our shortest players) man marking in the six yard box?

CBT's (designated I expect) job was to offer an option up the field, not to defend a corner. Having the whole team back around the box is asking for trouble. Ideally you'd keep two players up the pitch which would occupy three of theirs. And you also become a threat on the break.

And yes, you'd think Albie should be wide because of his lack of height.

I name this incident:

CornerGate.

Goal was also pretty flukey in that it hit Purrington and went in. 

soapboxsam said:

I name this incident:

CornerGate.

Thought that was Derby away. THAT CORNER 

DOUCHER said:

Bailey said:

If our player is on top of the two Gillingham players at the corner it limits their options, Albie arrives late and the Gills players now have options. This isn't the first time it's happened this season, we seem to be slow to cover the crossing positions, on this occasion Matthews is where he should be and its the midfielders job to Police the short corner. 

it was Lee, not morgan 

You are correct Mr Doucher, bloody poor organisation and I will always forgive Albie and Dobson as they are learning the game but when it's a senior player it makes it more unforgivable. 

Just watched the extended highlights on Charlton TV and we should've been 5 - 0 up at halftime, and could easily have scored another 3 in the second half. They had 2 decent chances overall. Some poor finishing and switching off the from a corner has cost us. 

But if we keep creating chances like that, things will surely be looking up.

Also, based on that performance, if we don't give CBT a contract soon, he's gonna have his pick of the league come January.

Clarky said:

golfaddick said:

EveshamAddick said:

Goal was also pretty flukey in that it hit Purrington and went in. 

If you don't shoot you can't score. Seeing as scoring is the main aim of football I would have thought you'd be trying to shoot as much as possible. 

True, but I think the point is we had 18 chances at goal, far more than them and scored one, and their one goal game from hitting the post and one of our players.

Yeah but that's positive spin in favour of Charlton, Golfie can't be having that. 

killerandflash said:

Six-a-bag-of-nuts said:

AndyG said:

Chunes said:

Just watched the extended highlights on Charlton TV and we should've been 5 - 0 up at halftime, and could easily have scored another 3 in the second half. They had 2 decent chances overall. Some poor finishing and switching off the from a corner has cost us. 

But if we keep creating chances like that, things will surely be looking up.

Also, based on that performance, if we don't give CBT a contract soon, he's gonna have his pick of the league come January.

If he has a few more performances like tuesday he might not want to sign a contract with us mate as he will have higher choices I would think.
It does make you wonder how he was released from Tranmere if he has that in his locker, the bloke was unplayable at times. Maybe he realises this is his opportunity to get a decent contract somwhere

I agree he made mincemeat of their guy in the first half, but I'd want to see a bit more before getting too carried away.
How is he against a full back with a bit more pace and savvy?
How is he when teams become aware of him and plan to negate his assets (ooh err missus)

Agreed. Any player with pace and directness will catch the eye, but they can also be found out unless they have more to their game than that

I remember Callum Harriott looking a potential world beater in his first few games for us

Talking of Callum Harriott, now he has been vindicated in a court of law could we do worse than give him a trial with a view to signing him as a free agent? As recentish Charlton wide players go he knows where the goal is and used to track back and work reasonably hard.