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Apart from the one time he was up by the the centre circleCovered End said:I thought that was arguably his best game so far.
Not only did he make a few excellent saves, but a big plus for me was that he wasn't wandering outside his penalty box today.
It's the first game he hasn't worried me about getting chipped by an opposition player.
(I do know the benefits of "sweeper").
Actually, I like the sweeper-keeper thing. I think it makes for exciting play. I understand that the great Sam Bartram was rather adventurous in his play, I wonder what modern day fans would make of him now.0 -
I'd be happier if he retreated quicker, but previously he seemed to amble backwards and at a decent level would have conceded in the first few games.Stig said:
Apart from the one time he was up by the the centre circleCovered End said:I thought that was arguably his best game so far.
Not only did he make a few excellent saves, but a big plus for me was that he wasn't wandering outside his penalty box today.
It's the first game he hasn't worried me about getting chipped by an opposition player.
(I do know the benefits of "sweeper").
Actually, I like the sweeper-keeper thing. I think it makes for exciting play. I understand that the great Sam Bartram was rather adventurous in his play, I wonder what modern day fans would make of him now.0 -
Always had an affinity with our keepers over the years. From the first ever keeper I saw, Charlie Wright through Nicky Johns, Bob Bolder, Dean Kiely in particular and many others we've nearly always had a decent keeper. But I'm struggling with Craig MacGillivray much as I want to really like the bloke as he seems a good guy.
So far, I'm struggling to see the outstanding keeper that I was led to believe he was at Portsmouth. Yes, he's a good shot stopper although the shots at MK Dons and one in a recent home game (can't remember which) that he let in I might have hoped he might have saved.
But so far there appear to be 2 elements of his game that I'm far from impressed with. The first is his kicking and distribution - it seems like almost every game he miskicks a backpass to an attacker in a dangerous position (he got away with another one yesterday) and his distribution is so slow on occasions.
But the thing I really don't like is his unwillingness (or is an inability) to come for crosses. He just never seems to leave his line to come for a cross with the result that the ball is constantly flying around our penalty area. Ben Amos had a lot of critics on here (not me) but you now really realise just what a great catcher of the ball he was and how it so often took the pressure off the defence.
Probably too early to call for a change but if things don't improve it must be tempting to give Henderson a go soon. And if Henderson is not first-team ready, why on earth have we signed him?
Fair comment or am I being over critical?5 -
Can’t say he’s really impressed but he’s had some good games. There are far bigger problems elsewhere.5
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He’s not the biggest issue but I’d argue he’s already made mistakes that have contributed to more preventable goals against than Amos did last season and Amos was getting pelters on here at one point.He has made some very good saves but he’s a definite downgrade, in my opinion and perhaps that’s an indication that, for all we are definitely underachieving, this season’s squad is probably no better and arguably worse than one that failed to make the playoffs in a season when the league was probably weaker overall.1
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Give Hendo a run out on Tuesday. Mac looked to be at fault for both goals on Sat.1
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Great shot stopper but no presence in the box and his positional play is poor.0
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Rubbish.EveshamAddick said:Give Hendo a run out on Tuesday. Mac looked to be at fault for both goals on Sat.
The first was very very unfortunate, the second I fail to see anyway whatsoever that he could be blamed, it was a peach of a cross that was for defenders to deal with and THEY very poorly didn’t, the cross was NOT there for him to claim.
He deserved a 7 for his performance.
Having said that, I was perfectly happy with Amos!3 -
Keeper needs to be able to trust his defence.
How does he trust a back four that could be any of:
GunterMatthews
Lavelle
Inniss
FamewoPearce
PurringtonSouaré
In any combination?!2 -
Question for me is whether the defence would be doing better with a different keeper or would any keeper look poor behind this defence?
Ideally yes we'd want him coming for more crosses etc but if he doesn't have confidence in his defence then it might not be (completely) his fault if he's not doing that.0 -
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The goal keeper is not the one of the issues with this team IMO. Form on Saturday was a reflection of the wider problems
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When the cross came in for their winner I thought the keeper had to come for it. Amos would have.1
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Sounds like you've got a Dracula on your hands.1
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Thisfenlandaddick said:The goal keeper is not the one of the issues with this team IMO. Form on Saturday was a reflection of the wider problems1 -
He isn’t as bad as people are making out.Big_Bad_World said:Sounds like you've a Dracula on your hands.0 -
Kasey Keller was known as Dracula at our place. Great shot stopper, though.ricky_otto said:
He isn’t as bad as people are making out.Big_Bad_World said:Sounds like you've a Dracula on your hands.1 -
Yeah, CMac made one exceptional reflex save, but one goal came from a flap at a cross-shot and the other he just stayed on his line. He can't kick well either. He will make saves other keepers at this level can't, but I'm not convinced that's what you need1
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Good goalkeeping isn’t just about making great reflex saves, it’s also about doing the more mundane things properly and this is where he fails. He’s very iffy with crosses and doesn’t dominate his area. At MK Dons he got his angles all wrong and virtually invited their player to put the ball into unguarded net. He also has a habit of parrying shots back into the danger area, both Oxford goals came about partly because of this.
I am not saying that he is the only or even the main problem with the team but he is something of a liability at the moment.5 -
The issue is we've been strong in the goalkeeping area for a long time and one of Amos's biggest attributes was coming for crosses so that difference is immediately noticeable. MaGillivray isn't necessarily a bad keeper, he's just not as good as the ones we've had before him1
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The palming it out onto Stockley showed poor awareness of your area and surroundings. If it didn't even hit Stockley, which it did, he would have palmed a cross straight towards the penalty spot!5
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He is poor.
Never comes for crosses.
Distribution is shocking.
v Lincoln he tried to go quick and long to our strikers who were high up on either side of the pitch and he booted it straight down the middle..
He cannot kick under pressure, Poor kick out v Lincoln then amazingly they never chased him down afterwards, like they felt sorry for him. If I was an oppo manager I would have my striker tearing down at him at every opportunity, Yann would have had a field day.1 -
Agreed. His distribution was woeful on Saturday.Athletico Charlton said:He is poor.
Never comes for crosses.
Distribution is shocking.
v Lincoln he tried to go quick and long to our strikers who were high up on either side of the pitch and he booted it straight down the middle..
He cannot kick under pressure, Poor kick out v Lincoln then amazingly they never chased him down afterwards, like they felt sorry for him. If I was an oppo manager I would have my striker tearing down at him at every opportunity, Yann would have had a field day.
As was what happened for the first goal on watching it again. He's done that before, palmed the ball straight to the forwards/centre of penalty area, both times Thuram actually sprang to mind!1 -
It's not going well so far is it. The odd great save isn't enough when a number of other areas are below par. I know it can't be easy playing behind such a shaky defence but at the same time it's not going to be roses for the defenders knowing they've got a keeper that virtually never relieves any pressure. Would be tempted to give Henderson a go.0
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The whole point of signing a "credible" backup keeper is that they should be a genuine contender for the gloves. It's a waste of wages unless Henderson is genuinely being considered on Tuesday
If might be a bit unfair, but is Glyn Shimell our GK coach good enough? McG certainly has weaknesses, and is regularly making the same mistakes
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From what I've seen I actually think he's a decent keeper, although I wouldn't necessarily say he's looked like an upgrade on Amos. Amos was exceptional with his aerial presence although he always looked vulnerable with long range shots. I'd say there about level which is perhaps one of our issues this year, players we've brought in as it stands don't seem to be upgrades on what we already have or lost.
I think most keeper's at this level have strengths and weaknesses, that's why there in League One and not at a higher level. From memory I don't remember seeing any keeper's this year in League one that have really stood out to me as exceptional. Bazanu at Pompey has really stood out in Ireland games I've watched but I can't remember how he fared when we played Pompey.
As much as I liked the nostalgia aspect of Henderson's return, I'm not sure he is the answer to our problems. He was great for us when he last played but that must have been 4/5 years ago and I don't think he's had a proper run of games since then which is a long time to not play much competitive football. I could be wrong of course and maybe he's excellent in training but I get the impression he's been brought in as back up and no more and he probably knows that as well.1 -
Doesn't inspire any confidence in me. The first goal was a joke. Needs to be dropped.1
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If you think CMac is the problem, then you've diagnosed the wrong problems with this team4
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the keeper is way down the 'shit that is going wrong' list3
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Amos was dodgy on long shots, Cmac doesn't come for crosses, i'm sure there's other keepers in this division who can't kick properly or have other faults. And guess what........that's why they're playing in league one.
He was POTY at Portsmouth last year, a side who finished above us so i'm giving him the benefit of the doubt that he's not as shit as half this thread is making out he is.2
