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Post-match Thread: Charlton Athletic v Ipswich Town | Tuesday 7 December 2021
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Morecambe was the one that really felt like dropped points because we broke them down twice and then conceded soft ones allowing them to park the bus.Airman Brown said:
Yes, but “you’re not going to win every game”. Morecambe was frustrating and Shrewsbury pretty rubbish, but Plymouth and last night more than make up for them, in my view. It’s also important to win in front of the home fans.killerandflash said:
I suppose on the flip side, Morecambe and Shrewsbury might say we were nothing special. We were missing Pearce and Stockley, but it was the same midfield, and the passing and creativity weren't anywhere near as good.iaitch said:We must be doing something right as Rotherham, Plymouth and now Ipswich have commented on us being the best team they've played.
It's brilliant to beat the "good" sides in this division, but you also need to dispatch the scruffy ones, especially away from home. You're not going to win every game, but if we had won those games we would have been 10th now, 5 points off he playoffs.
It would have been wildly unrealistic to think we could or should have won every game since Jackson took over (excluding Rotherham) and the suspension of Stockley was critical to the two away results.
Jacko will get the job in the next week, probably until the end of the season. Everyone knows it, hence there is no panic and no need for panic.
Shrewsbury parked the bus from the off and did it well to be fair. And then there was the refereeing travesty at the end that cost us even a point.
In both cases, the weather was shit, Gunter was in the middle of the back 3, Stockley was missing and Davison had lost any mojo he appeared to have found earlier in the season.
Extenuating circumstances in both matches, but we did enough at Morecambe to win more often than not, and deserved a point at Shrewsbury.As Airman says, you can’t win them all. The manner in which we dropped the points was markedly different to what we’d been doing earlier in the season though. The only concern was it perhaps the Johnnie Jackson bandwagon losing momentum, but the results in the cups and last night put that all firmly to bed.
We probably need 2 points per game average between now and the end of the season. Automatic promotion form over the course of a season. Under Jacko we have 17 points from 8 matches so slightly ahead of target despite what are perceived as poor results at Morecambe and Shrewsbury.7 -
Major said:Really happy that under Jacko's management, Steve Gallen's Ged Roddy's player recruitment has been justified.
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JJ has mentioned that they are a coach down and it looks like Watson is filling the gap. I wonder if he is doing his badges as well?FishCostaFortune said:
Watson again along side the coaching staff. It’s been mentioned before, but the noise coming out is that he is a great asset around the training ground. If his impact on the pitch has been underwhelming, off it, it feels like it’s perhaps been understated.mendonca said:This pic actually makes me emotional! So many players now just run off on their own when they score. Gilbs thought about a knee slide then chose to go with his heart and mind!
Well done Ipswich, I had a good look at them coming off the pitch and it is unusual for a whole team to not need to wash their kit for Saturday.Their fans deserve more than that pathetic performance. No effort or commitment. They had a corner and just 1 goal down, the ball was sitting in our six yard box and one of their players walked straight past it.Maybe saving their energy for a performance in front of a new manager. I hope he was watching today because a lot of them won’t be starting anytime soon.0 -
Ive tried to get a grasp on what went on and how their fans feel by looking at their forum, but its a total mess. Its like each comment is a new thread. Thank god for Charlton Life.3
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Let's not go completely overboard, for the most part Ipswich stank, but we can only take on the opposition that turns up.
We were dominant for probably 80 out of the 98 minutes played. With any luck at all going our way we'd have poached 3 or 4 more goals, absolutely nothing dropped for us in the box and Walton was excellent.
Washington deserves an assist for Stocker's opener, he'd done all the hard graft, JS's finish was superb.
Gilbey stepped in to break up an Ipswich move, shifted the ball positively and kept moving forward while CW was tormenting the tractor boys, he made the intelligent run to be in the right place to create his chance and took it with class.
DJ's defensive efforts are laudable indeed, cos it clearly don't come natural to him but he didn't attempt to beat anybody, rarely made himself available despite how poor Ipswich were down their left. The concensus around us was DJ really didn't fancy it and surprise he was kept on so long.
Elliott Lee works his nuts off and looks to be very close to being really good. But his dead balls - the really easy stuff - are pathetic, focus dammit!
The back 3 all outperformed their talent or experience in their own ways - Famewo takes a lot of risks and is frighteningly close to a howler too often.
Purington barely needed to be a wing-back at all, and he's turning into a very able attacking threat - he did everything right with his headed chance, props to Walton for charging back across goal to make a block he knew noting about
George Dobson's rebirth under JJ was surprising enough but he's now adding attacking vision and passes to match, pos contender on this form.
Back to Washington - he wants to stay, we need him to stay, we need him on all cylinders for the next 25 matches so Thomas, give him a decent extension and make him the equal best paid player on the books, he's critical to the way the whole team plays and is able to play so far up the pitch for so much of the games. Same as with JJ, hesitation there is stupid.2 -
He created 4 chances, had 3 shots, pressed well, held the ball well, always showed for it and linked everything together. I'd be delighted if Albie had the ability to play like that but he doesn't.Dazzler21 said:Can't believe how many 7's Lee is getting, he made one decent pass all game!
Albie Morgan if he played like that would be lucky to get a 4 from these same people.15 -
All were great.Washington a level above.Gilbey looked class.Clares distribution a tad sloppy and worrying. Just needs to tidy up.0
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Football fans at their best....
Signings look crap - Focus on Roddy
Signings look good - Focus on Gallen
Note: Same players being referenced as signings.10 -
I just thought it was an eggcellent performance by the boys.soapboxsam said:Solidgone said:The match reminded me that I needed to buy some eggs.
You were shell shocked how well we played
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"DJ didn't fancy it"
"Leko looked bored and disinterested"
On a fantastic night you still hear inane comments.
They have new responsibilities and DJ played fine despite not going past his man.
The early knock to his knee curtailed his attacking threat but he still put in a great shift for the team.
Doing a short corner to Leko after he came on had high risk Jeopardy when you have Centre backs up. Only ever tried it as a manager if we were several goals ahead and could try out some training ground moves. Not at 1-0 when the other team could break away as has happened to Cafc so many times in the past.
As far as we know Marcus Maddison was the only person who didn't "fancy it" at Cafc in recent times and that was because of a melt down in his personal life not helped by lock down. Plus he said he didn't enjoy training so a big mistake all round.
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Homer ref. Cowed by the fans and atmosphere.oohaahmortimer said:No complaints about the ref … I thought he leant towards us and we got most of the 50-50 decisions
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I swear if Trevor two reds Kettle had been in charge, Jason Pearce gets a straight red for his gentle rugby tackle.
Oxymoron alert
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I think Clare has been a revelation as a RCB, being both CB and frequently RB as well. He's quick and instinctive.2121 said:Clares distribution a tad sloppy and worrying. Just needs to tidy up.
But ..... It's when he has time on the ball, that he seems to telegraph what he's going to do next, giving the opponent time to read the situation and intercept.
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Some of our football was top notch.1
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Apart from the fact that we were fantastic last night, I don't know when I ever saw a team kick the ball into touch even when not under pressure!0
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Famewo does play on the edge with those runs out of defence, as he never is entirely in control of the ball
Last night it came off, and as a result he went past several players before setting up another attack, but at some point I can see him playing the ball too far ahead of him, then lunging to get it back and catching an opposition player when "out of control", resulting in a red card2 -
Understandable point, but our biggest signing in financial terms was Kirk and our standout late adjustment was Arter, neither of whom can get a game in L1.mendonca said:Football fans at their best....
Signings look crap - Focus on Roddy
Signings look good - Focus on Gallen
Note: Same players being referenced as signings.
You will always get some failed signings, especially with a high turnover, but we were recruiting to a formation we’re not playing and these two were a stretch.So, whoever people want to credit/blame I think the position on recruitment is still mixed, even if the individual issues have changed.5 -
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soapboxsam said:Sammy391 why are you being so negative ?
I thought everyone understood the wing backs role? Of course when the ball is lost up field Purrington will be out of position. That's why it's important that Dobson covers as well as the LCB.
Purrington is so good at not getting picked when in an offensive position.
DJ early problem with his leg hampered him but he did well defensively, and Leko did struggle to get to the pace of the game but to say he was disinterested and bored is just wrong.Certainly not being negative - I thought we played very very well last night, and to a man were fantastic!
however, it was obvious to see slight chinks in the armour when purrington bombed forward that there was a lot of space exposed behind that was able to be extorted & used by Ipswich - luckily to no effect or due to fantastic tracking back!
Absolutely understand this is part and parcel with the wingback role, but felt purrington (quite a few times) leapt straight into the high press and tackle when no one around him was ready to/ready to cover.0 -
Stockley, in all comps, almost has 1 in 2 for us. 22 in 45. Not bad at all.9
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A nephew of mine (mostly an Arsenal fan, but has been going to games with workmates/fellow Aussie Rules players) is currently in London.
Last night marked his first game at The Valley, albeit in the away end.
He said he'll be back, but in the right end of the ground, said he thought we were by far the better team, with a special mention for the defence.9 -
It wasn’t long ago that someone commented on here that the Player of the Season selection was going to be difficult as they were all so awful. It’ll still be difficult now, but for completely different reasons. You could make a case for any of these regulars I reckon:
Stockley for the goals
Pearce After we’d written him off, he’s been great
Famewo Back to his early form
Clare Shaky start, but so versatile now
Lee Makes things happen
Gilbey Now the player we hoped he might be
Dobson A midfield destroyer, and he can pass. Just what we’ve needed for ages
Purrington He’s been very good since JJ, and is a goal threat
Washington Tireless, and now showing some skills
Jaiyesimi A crossing machine
I wouldn’t begrudge any of those the award if it was made now.
And even Gunter and Matthews, who we all seemed to want rid of, have stepped up to the plate under new management. MacGillivray also has done little wrong.
I just pray that this continues.4 -
Finding a midfield destroyer with quality and the energy Dobson has is basically like winning the lottery.6
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It's been an area we've just let players run through at will for 2 seasons.MuttleyCAFC said:Finding a midfield destroyer with quality and the energy Dobson has is basically like winning the lottery.3 -
They are like hen's teeth at the level we are playing.0
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