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Charlton Only - January 2022 Transfer Rumours (Deadline Day p.97)

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  • MattF
    MattF Posts: 3,797

  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,210
    cafcfan1990 said:
    BR7_addick said:
    I hate to be one of the moaners I really do.  But a loan signing, unless there’s a guarantee we get first option on him next season, seems fairly pointless to me when we’re destined for mid table.  I’d rather give one of our own a pop.  
    Who though? 
    I don’t know to be fair, but you see where I’m coming from no?  I guess we’ve loaned a few out already.  
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,000
    edited January 2022
    MattF said:

    Interesting phrasing by RC there. "Not expecting to happen" instead of expressly "no interest at all."

    Possibly reading too deep but sounds like we enquired but aren't the favourites. 
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,168
    ElliotCAFC said:
    Henry Irving said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    addick1956 said:
    MattF said:

    I thought that Kirk going was not dependent in a signing coming in but it now seems so.
    Meanwhile a bloke deemed useless here is seen as good enough  for the Championship.  Strange , or not ?
    Or one out and one in at the same time is just coincidence?
    Or good news management. 

    But more likely just a coincidence. 
    The article highlights we can still use John in the Pizza cup, so I imagine this was already done before and we’ve held it back. 
    If we find out he can take a penalty people are going to lose their minds
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    BR7_addick said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    BR7_addick said:
    I hate to be one of the moaners I really do.  But a loan signing, unless there’s a guarantee we get first option on him next season, seems fairly pointless to me when we’re destined for mid table.  I’d rather give one of our own a pop.  
    Who though? 
    I don’t know to be fair, but you see where I’m coming from no?  I guess we’ve loaned a few out already.  
    Generally, I do. If we signed a young CB on loan, I'd understand it, should we not be giving Deji a few games. Same in CM with someone like Henry. Maybe even at LWB, could we not try Oguntayo above Castillo (appreciate he's been injured). But not in this position, I see no contender at all in the youth teams and trying one would be purely for the sake of it. It's been blatantly obvious we need an AM so to be honest we're moaning purely because we're giving game time to another loan player. 

    I take your point about first option though. It will be frustrating if he does well and we can't get him again in the summer. 
  • arny23394
    arny23394 Posts: 1,180
    J BLOCK said:
    J BLOCK said:
    Kid from Tottenham coming in 
    👍
    🏅 
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    One thing I will say is that I'm surprised we've gone in for both Browne and John. Alongside Lee, I can't imagine we'll start with more than one of them so not sure we need all three. 
  • Redvaliant
    Redvaliant Posts: 514
    Gravesend_Addick said:
    Red3valiant said:
    Gravesend_Addick said:
    3 signings in the January window already & still 4 days to go.

    This doesn't feel very Charlton!!

    The underwhelming feeling is just the same.
    We're a mid table league 1 club so expectations should be managed accordingly. 

    My point stands. I'm pleased to see our business done relatively early, signing players we actually want rather than scratching around for whatever's available on deadline day
    In Jan 2011 prior to the big summer rebuild we signed Bradley Wright-Philips who was knocking them in at Plymouth. I'm sorry but two 18 years olds and possibly a player just returning from a very bad injury, still strikes me as scratching around.
  • Addick_and_Chips
    Addick_and_Chips Posts: 444
    Finding it really hard to get excited about any of our signings ATM. We will be looking to rebuild again in the summer with more loans and players with histories of long term injuries. On top of that (apart from staying up) our season is over. 
  • ElliotCAFC
    ElliotCAFC Posts: 2,552
    cafcfan1990 said:
    One thing I will say is that I'm surprised we've gone in for both Browne and John. Alongside Lee, I can't imagine we'll start with more than one of them so not sure we need all three. 
    I’m assuming the Browne deal has fallen through and that’s why we’ve pushed through for Nile John.
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  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,000
    cafcfan1990 said:
    One thing I will say is that I'm surprised we've gone in for both Browne and John. Alongside Lee, I can't imagine we'll start with more than one of them so not sure we need all three. 
    Two are on loan, Browne is (hopefully) permanent. We can see how they fit in and which (if any) are worth hanging onto/getting back again next season NOW and planning accordingly.

    If John's still young, Brown's recuperating and Lee burnt out we have actual rotation not just on the pitch but on the bench as well.

    Seems a good thing to me. 
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    edited January 2022
    ElliotCAFC said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    One thing I will say is that I'm surprised we've gone in for both Browne and John. Alongside Lee, I can't imagine we'll start with more than one of them so not sure we need all three. 
    I’m assuming the Browne deal has fallen through and that’s why we’ve pushed through for Nile John.
    That goes against what Cawley has said but of course is possible. 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,311
    ElliotCAFC said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    One thing I will say is that I'm surprised we've gone in for both Browne and John. Alongside Lee, I can't imagine we'll start with more than one of them so not sure we need all three. 
    I’m assuming the Browne deal has fallen through and that’s why we’ve pushed through for Nile John.
    Cawley posted straight after the loan confirmation, saying that we're still working on signing Browne.
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,881
    cafcfan1990 said:
    One thing I will say is that I'm surprised we've gone in for both Browne and John. Alongside Lee, I can't imagine we'll start with more than one of them so not sure we need all three. 
    We have limited options off of the bench. Signing boy would give us more options
  • ElliotCAFC
    ElliotCAFC Posts: 2,552
    Redvaliant said:
    Gravesend_Addick said:
    Red3valiant said:
    Gravesend_Addick said:
    3 signings in the January window already & still 4 days to go.

    This doesn't feel very Charlton!!

    The underwhelming feeling is just the same.
    We're a mid table league 1 club so expectations should be managed accordingly. 

    My point stands. I'm pleased to see our business done relatively early, signing players we actually want rather than scratching around for whatever's available on deadline day
    In Jan 2011 prior to the big summer rebuild we signed Bradley Wright-Philips who was knocking them in at Plymouth. I'm sorry but two 18 years olds and possibly a player just returning from a very bad injury, still strikes me as scratching around.
    Different times. If that happened in 2022 Plymouth would be demanding £1m+ for a goal scoring striker.

    We built that whole squad for around £1m.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    I see a point in signing loan players - give the team and fans a lift, ensure we don’t get sucked into a relegation battle and show potential summer signings that JJ is a capable manager.

    Lee and Gilbey have needed stronger competition for a while. John and hopefully Browne will give them that. It might even mean we move Morgan on or send Lee back to Luton.

    An 18 year old on his first loan is also someone we could realistically take back on loan next season.
  • ElliotCAFC
    ElliotCAFC Posts: 2,552
    edited January 2022
    cafcfan1990 said:
    ElliotCAFC said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    One thing I will say is that I'm surprised we've gone in for both Browne and John. Alongside Lee, I can't imagine we'll start with more than one of them so not sure we need all three. 
    I’m assuming the Browne deal has fallen through and that’s why we’ve pushed through for Nile John.
    That goes against what Cawley has said but of course is possible. 
    ForeverAddickted said:
    ElliotCAFC said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    One thing I will say is that I'm surprised we've gone in for both Browne and John. Alongside Lee, I can't imagine we'll start with more than one of them so not sure we need all three. 
    I’m assuming the Browne deal has fallen through and that’s why we’ve pushed through for Nile John.
    Cawley posted straight after the loan confirmation, saying that we're still working on signing Browne.
    It’s gone from he’s agreed a move and is having a medical on Tuesday to “Charlton are still working on it”. 

    I’m probably being ultra pessimistic but that doesn’t sound like a deal is moving forward, or anywhere near complete.

    The line about the Pizza cup also suggests we’ve held back the John signing for whatever reason. John could have been a contingency in case we didn’t land other targets.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,311
    ElliotCAFC said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    ElliotCAFC said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    One thing I will say is that I'm surprised we've gone in for both Browne and John. Alongside Lee, I can't imagine we'll start with more than one of them so not sure we need all three. 
    I’m assuming the Browne deal has fallen through and that’s why we’ve pushed through for Nile John.
    That goes against what Cawley has said but of course is possible. 
    ForeverAddickted said:
    ElliotCAFC said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    One thing I will say is that I'm surprised we've gone in for both Browne and John. Alongside Lee, I can't imagine we'll start with more than one of them so not sure we need all three. 
    I’m assuming the Browne deal has fallen through and that’s why we’ve pushed through for Nile John.
    Cawley posted straight after the loan confirmation, saying that we're still working on signing Browne.
    It’s gone from he’s agreed a move and is having a medical on Tuesday to “Charlton are still working on it”. 

    I’m probably being ultra pessimistic but that doesn’t sound like a deal is moving forward, or anywhere near complete.

    The line about the Pizza cup also suggests we’ve held back the John signing for whatever reason, one reason could be the Browne deal going backwards.
    Sorry but dont remember Cawley confirming that Browne was having a medical with us?
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Todds_right_hook said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    One thing I will say is that I'm surprised we've gone in for both Browne and John. Alongside Lee, I can't imagine we'll start with more than one of them so not sure we need all three. 
    We have limited options off of the bench. Signing boy would give us more options
    I know he is only 18 but.... 
  • ElliotCAFC
    ElliotCAFC Posts: 2,552
    edited January 2022
    ForeverAddickted said:
    ElliotCAFC said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    ElliotCAFC said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    One thing I will say is that I'm surprised we've gone in for both Browne and John. Alongside Lee, I can't imagine we'll start with more than one of them so not sure we need all three. 
    I’m assuming the Browne deal has fallen through and that’s why we’ve pushed through for Nile John.
    That goes against what Cawley has said but of course is possible. 
    ForeverAddickted said:
    ElliotCAFC said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    One thing I will say is that I'm surprised we've gone in for both Browne and John. Alongside Lee, I can't imagine we'll start with more than one of them so not sure we need all three. 
    I’m assuming the Browne deal has fallen through and that’s why we’ve pushed through for Nile John.
    Cawley posted straight after the loan confirmation, saying that we're still working on signing Browne.
    It’s gone from he’s agreed a move and is having a medical on Tuesday to “Charlton are still working on it”. 

    I’m probably being ultra pessimistic but that doesn’t sound like a deal is moving forward, or anywhere near complete.

    The line about the Pizza cup also suggests we’ve held back the John signing for whatever reason, one reason could be the Browne deal going backwards.
    Sorry but dont remember Cawley confirming that Browne was having a medical with us?
    That’s from Footy Insider, who broke the story before Cawley. (IIRC)
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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,311
    ElliotCAFC said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    ElliotCAFC said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    ElliotCAFC said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    One thing I will say is that I'm surprised we've gone in for both Browne and John. Alongside Lee, I can't imagine we'll start with more than one of them so not sure we need all three. 
    I’m assuming the Browne deal has fallen through and that’s why we’ve pushed through for Nile John.
    That goes against what Cawley has said but of course is possible. 
    ForeverAddickted said:
    ElliotCAFC said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    One thing I will say is that I'm surprised we've gone in for both Browne and John. Alongside Lee, I can't imagine we'll start with more than one of them so not sure we need all three. 
    I’m assuming the Browne deal has fallen through and that’s why we’ve pushed through for Nile John.
    Cawley posted straight after the loan confirmation, saying that we're still working on signing Browne.
    It’s gone from he’s agreed a move and is having a medical on Tuesday to “Charlton are still working on it”. 

    I’m probably being ultra pessimistic but that doesn’t sound like a deal is moving forward, or anywhere near complete.

    The line about the Pizza cup also suggests we’ve held back the John signing for whatever reason, one reason could be the Browne deal going backwards.
    Sorry but dont remember Cawley confirming that Browne was having a medical with us?
    That’s from Footy Insider, who broke the story before Cawley. (IIRC)
    Cheers - I usually take those sources with a pinch of salt
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,000
    ElliotCAFC said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    ElliotCAFC said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    ElliotCAFC said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    One thing I will say is that I'm surprised we've gone in for both Browne and John. Alongside Lee, I can't imagine we'll start with more than one of them so not sure we need all three. 
    I’m assuming the Browne deal has fallen through and that’s why we’ve pushed through for Nile John.
    That goes against what Cawley has said but of course is possible. 
    ForeverAddickted said:
    ElliotCAFC said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    One thing I will say is that I'm surprised we've gone in for both Browne and John. Alongside Lee, I can't imagine we'll start with more than one of them so not sure we need all three. 
    I’m assuming the Browne deal has fallen through and that’s why we’ve pushed through for Nile John.
    Cawley posted straight after the loan confirmation, saying that we're still working on signing Browne.
    It’s gone from he’s agreed a move and is having a medical on Tuesday to “Charlton are still working on it”. 

    I’m probably being ultra pessimistic but that doesn’t sound like a deal is moving forward, or anywhere near complete.

    The line about the Pizza cup also suggests we’ve held back the John signing for whatever reason, one reason could be the Browne deal going backwards.
    Sorry but dont remember Cawley confirming that Browne was having a medical with us?
    That’s from Footy Insider, who broke the story before Cawley. (IIRC)
    Footy Insider probably put 2+2 to get 5 then. They got an (accurate) rumour of interest but for whatever reason decided to frame it as imminent whereas Cawley (who works more closely with the club) reported it much more accurately that we are trying to get the move done but it's further away than that. 
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,955
    ElliotCAFC said:
    Redvaliant said:
    Gravesend_Addick said:
    Red3valiant said:
    Gravesend_Addick said:
    3 signings in the January window already & still 4 days to go.

    This doesn't feel very Charlton!!

    The underwhelming feeling is just the same.
    We're a mid table league 1 club so expectations should be managed accordingly. 

    My point stands. I'm pleased to see our business done relatively early, signing players we actually want rather than scratching around for whatever's available on deadline day
    In Jan 2011 prior to the big summer rebuild we signed Bradley Wright-Philips who was knocking them in at Plymouth. I'm sorry but two 18 years olds and possibly a player just returning from a very bad injury, still strikes me as scratching around.
    Different times. If that happened in 2022 Plymouth would be demanding £1m+ for a goal scoring striker.

    We built that whole squad for around £1m.
    Yes, different times - especially for Plymouth at that time.
    They were in grave danger of folding and were desperate for cash, any cash, just to keep going.

    Always bargains to be had when financially desperate clubs hold a fire sale to survive.


  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,496
    MattF said:

    Good friend of mine who has connections at Gillingham told me after they turned down offers for Dempsey , Tucker and Oliver from us last window there no way the owner will sell to Charlton unless Charlton pay over the odds … 
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,881
    Redvaliant said:
    Gravesend_Addick said:
    Red3valiant said:
    Gravesend_Addick said:
    3 signings in the January window already & still 4 days to go.

    This doesn't feel very Charlton!!

    The underwhelming feeling is just the same.
    We're a mid table league 1 club so expectations should be managed accordingly. 

    My point stands. I'm pleased to see our business done relatively early, signing players we actually want rather than scratching around for whatever's available on deadline day
    In Jan 2011 prior to the big summer rebuild we signed Bradley Wright-Philips who was knocking them in at Plymouth. I'm sorry but two 18 years olds and possibly a player just returning from a very bad injury, still strikes me as scratching around.
    Who is the second 18 year old? John and?

    we've also signed a proven league 1 goal scorers and a loan from Chelsea who fits in with the formation the manager likes to play. When did we last have a better Jan window?
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,311
    Todds_right_hook said:
    Redvaliant said:
    Gravesend_Addick said:
    Red3valiant said:
    Gravesend_Addick said:
    3 signings in the January window already & still 4 days to go.

    This doesn't feel very Charlton!!

    The underwhelming feeling is just the same.
    We're a mid table league 1 club so expectations should be managed accordingly. 

    My point stands. I'm pleased to see our business done relatively early, signing players we actually want rather than scratching around for whatever's available on deadline day
    In Jan 2011 prior to the big summer rebuild we signed Bradley Wright-Philips who was knocking them in at Plymouth. I'm sorry but two 18 years olds and possibly a player just returning from a very bad injury, still strikes me as scratching around.
    Who is the second 18 year old? John and?

    we've also signed a proven league 1 goal scorers and a loan from Chelsea who fits in with the formation the manager likes to play. When did we last have a better Jan window?
    Castillo is the other Juan
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    Castillo is 22
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    ForeverAddickted said:
    ElliotCAFC said:
    Henry Irving said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    addick1956 said:
    MattF said:

    I thought that Kirk going was not dependent in a signing coming in but it now seems so.
    Meanwhile a bloke deemed useless here is seen as good enough  for the Championship.  Strange , or not ?
    Or one out and one in at the same time is just coincidence?
    Or good news management. 

    But more likely just a coincidence. 
    The article highlights we can still use John in the Pizza cup, so I imagine this was already done before and we’ve held it back. 
    Proof that we expect him back here next season


    I saw the picture of Nile John earlier and now this one - he has really aged in the hour he has been at the club. 
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,727
    Addick_and_Chips said:
    Finding it really hard to get excited about any of our signings ATM. We will be looking to rebuild again in the summer with more loans and players with histories of long term injuries. On top of that (apart from staying up) our season is over. 
    Gallagher going to palace has ruined all loan signings for me forever.


  • king addick
    king addick Posts: 3,699
    If you dont like the loan signing...or the permanent signing..or any kind of signing without giving them a chance then dont watch the team, as I cant see the point when all you will do is moan more and more. Just mental.

    We never signed enough then when we do there shit or "underwhelming" before kicking a ball.

    There may not be much to play for in terms of promotion but we have to finish the season as strong as possible or just fade into obscurity which in turn, will have moaners out in droves anyway so whatever we do....it wont be enough. Pathetic really.

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