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Is Thomas Driesen Gone? - he popped in on p16, and back out on p26
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I did find it quite interesting when I asked about who he meant by players mentioned by surname in that Mcginn email that I even got a clarification. I'm genuinely quite interested as to what the transfer strategy was at the time because it seemed a bit all over the shop? The 2 players he named have both had fairly solid EFL careers and would have been younger players then that you perhaps would have looked at as players that might have a sell on value.
But ultimately I don't think we really got anywhere , which is a shame because I'd loved to have understood the thinking behind the scenes a bit more. The summer we signed Makienok for example there was some quite interesting names going around as rumours that would have been fantastic signings but didn't quite come off for whatever reason. Likes of Clement Lenglet (now of Barcelona) and Jean-Phillipe Gbamin (Now at Everton but has struggled with injuries) were mentioned when they were still in the French second division.
I actually found the stuff about the Polish Pete signing interesting, a signing I still don't think I'll ever understand why it happened even with the explanation provided and summed up that when they got it wrong , they got it spectacularly wrong.4 -
ValleyGary said:
TD is on Twitter, if you’re so keen to know his side of events, give him a message on there, see how you get on.
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Success has many fathers, failures are always orphans
That there is TD's CAFC career in a nutshell6 -
Silly reaction from some on here.
Keep your friends close....but keep your enemies closer.5 -
BDL said:You know what, with all the shit that's going down at the moment in the world, I don't give a flying f*ck for what Football Manager Boy wants to say or do. Just probabaly best to ignore from now on, that chapter is closed.
Couldn't agree more Dave. Slimey little twat comes on this forum two years down the line to justify his actions. Pathetic.
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Classic manipulation tactics from him, don't fall for it. He came on because he was getting grief on here as a result of yet another trollish bit of gloating on Twitter. He then proceeded to tell exactly his version of what he wanted to talk about, shared a couple of very specific screenshots that suited his argument but no more and ignored a number of very valid questions because he didn't have an answer for them. He then accused Jimmy, Airman and BDL all of being liars for pointing out moments where he wasn't a shining light and then when he was done giving his version of events chose a comment to flounce off to despite him being told to fuck off from the exact moment he started posting. Didn't offend him before he was done giving his version. He came on to do one thing, which was dump his version of history and there was nothing interesting to learn from him being on here because it wasn't a conversation, it was an exercise in narcissism and bullshit.Bedsaddick said:Well done those who told him to fuck off . Classy . It was just getting interesting as well .
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👍Garrymanilow said:
Classic manipulation tactics from him, don't fall for it. He came on because he was getting grief on here as a result of yet another trollish bit of gloating on Twitter. He then proceeded to tell exactly his version of what he wanted to talk about, shared a couple of very specific screenshots that suited his argument but no more and ignored a number of very valid questions because he didn't have an answer for them. He then accused Jimmy, Airman and BDL all of being liars for pointing out moments where he wasn't a shining light and then when he was done giving his version of events chose a comment to flounce off to despite him being told to fuck off from the exact moment he started posting. Didn't offend him before he was done giving his version. He came on to do one thing, which was dump his version of history and there was nothing interesting to learn from him being on here because it wasn't a conversation, it was an exercise in narcissism and bullshit.Bedsaddick said:Well done those who told him to fuck off . Classy . It was just getting interesting as well .0 -
I don't blame him for what's happened in the past, if I was in his shoes (if Mowgli has shoes, that is), I'd have probably done exactly the same. So, if St Truiden or Standard Leige or whoever he supports come knocking, I'll be quite happy to swan around for a couple of years playing billy big bollocks and putting their name on my cv. It wouldn't bother me that I'd be out of my depth, I'd be quite happy to make me a big old spreadsheet and fill it with jargon and dubious data in the hope of fooling someone. I'd find a way of somehow using the word algorithm to make me look more clever and important. I might even invest some of my new earnings on a Playstation so I could really live the dream. Like our Jungle Book friend, I'd try to grab some attention by creating a poncey but utterly meaningless tagline for myself. I don't know what exactly but something along the lines of Optimistic Goth or Vegan Omnivore or maybe something a little more descriptive like Stupid Wanker. And when the whole castle of sand came tumbling down, as it surely would, I'd spend my days trying to justify myself and pretending that my contribution was greater than it was; selectively publishing every shred of evidence I could muster in the hope of convincing people. Carefully nurturing a story of competence whilst remaining 100% better in my dreams than in anything we might call reality. What I absolutely wouldn't do though is troll their fans on twitter by sneering at their once great club and rubbing salt into their wounds. That is a pretty scummy thing to do.
It's been an interesting couple of days. I can't honestly say I've learnt a lot though. Perhaps there was nothing to learn, perhaps I am still too narrow minded to want to listen to one of Duchatelet's underlings. He might be a nice guy in real life, and he might know more about football than I give him credit for. I don't care really. As far as Charlton is concerned he is a thing of the past. I hope we can all move on and forget his name forever. Now, my extensive research tells me that Rhys Williams would be a perfect signing for Chelsea, I must give them a call.9 -
100% thisGarrymanilow said:
Classic manipulation tactics from him, don't fall for it. He came on because he was getting grief on here as a result of yet another trollish bit of gloating on Twitter. He then proceeded to tell exactly his version of what he wanted to talk about, shared a couple of very specific screenshots that suited his argument but no more and ignored a number of very valid questions because he didn't have an answer for them. He then accused Jimmy, Airman and BDL all of being liars for pointing out moments where he wasn't a shining light and then when he was done giving his version of events chose a comment to flounce off to despite him being told to fuck off from the exact moment he started posting. Didn't offend him before he was done giving his version. He came on to do one thing, which was dump his version of history and there was nothing interesting to learn from him being on here because it wasn't a conversation, it was an exercise in narcissism and bullshit.Bedsaddick said:Well done those who told him to fuck off . Classy . It was just getting interesting as well .0 -
You genuinely don't know why the Roland era went wrong?sam3110 said:Some people on here showing how blinded by rage they are, especially people who were in and around the club at the same time as Tommy was. I get why you would be, but at the end of the day he came on here to provide his version of events, and was actually producing some evidence to back things up, but with so many people jumping down his throat and insulting him, he's decided to leave before everything came out. It's a shame as I've always wondered how that period in our history went so drastically wrong, and he could provide a unique insight into the club at that time, from a different side of the whole debacle4 -
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🙄 Of course I know what went wrong and why, but it would have been interesting to hear from the other side, and from someone on the other side of the ring, so to speak.Neil_Heaney said:
You genuinely don't know why the Roland era went wrong?sam3110 said:Some people on here showing how blinded by rage they are, especially people who were in and around the club at the same time as Tommy was. I get why you would be, but at the end of the day he came on here to provide his version of events, and was actually producing some evidence to back things up, but with so many people jumping down his throat and insulting him, he's decided to leave before everything came out. It's a shame as I've always wondered how that period in our history went so drastically wrong, and he could provide a unique insight into the club at that time, from a different side of the whole debacle2 -
The other side did have six years to give their side of the story, including control of the club's comms, use of multiple PR professionals and dozens of meetings with the groups of fans. What else do you think they might have to say?sam3110 said:
🙄 Of course I know what went wrong and why, but it would have been interesting to hear from the other side, and from someone on the other side of the ring, so to speak.Neil_Heaney said:
You genuinely don't know why the Roland era went wrong?sam3110 said:Some people on here showing how blinded by rage they are, especially people who were in and around the club at the same time as Tommy was. I get why you would be, but at the end of the day he came on here to provide his version of events, and was actually producing some evidence to back things up, but with so many people jumping down his throat and insulting him, he's decided to leave before everything came out. It's a shame as I've always wondered how that period in our history went so drastically wrong, and he could provide a unique insight into the club at that time, from a different side of the whole debacle11 -
Good point. I certainly think I'm grown up enough to balance sources and make up my mind.sam3110 said:
🙄 Of course I know what went wrong and why, but it would have been interesting to hear from the other side, and from someone on the other side of the ring, so to speak.Neil_Heaney said:
You genuinely don't know why the Roland era went wrong?sam3110 said:Some people on here showing how blinded by rage they are, especially people who were in and around the club at the same time as Tommy was. I get why you would be, but at the end of the day he came on here to provide his version of events, and was actually producing some evidence to back things up, but with so many people jumping down his throat and insulting him, he's decided to leave before everything came out. It's a shame as I've always wondered how that period in our history went so drastically wrong, and he could provide a unique insight into the club at that time, from a different side of the whole debacle
If something like this ever happens again I'm sure many of us would really appreciate it if people weren't obnoxious wankers, as bad as Driesen might be, I would argue he probably has more of an insight into that period of Charlton than almost everyone on here, quite possibly everyone actually.
Next time let's maybe give people enough rope to hang themselves rather than being keyboard Jeremy Paxmans. More Louis Theroux and less Piers Morgan.
There was a lot more info to come there, albeit from a biased perspective, but if people could remember it's not just them and their vendettas on this forum that would be great.
He's not a murderer, he's a very naughty boy.5 -
I don't know what else they might have to say, but now we'll never know because too many grown men resorted to playground bullying and insults, on both sidesAirman Brown said:
The other side did have six years to give their side of the story, including control of the club's comms, use of multiple PR professionals and dozens of meetings with the groups of fans. What else do you think they might have to say?sam3110 said:
🙄 Of course I know what went wrong and why, but it would have been interesting to hear from the other side, and from someone on the other side of the ring, so to speak.Neil_Heaney said:
You genuinely don't know why the Roland era went wrong?sam3110 said:Some people on here showing how blinded by rage they are, especially people who were in and around the club at the same time as Tommy was. I get why you would be, but at the end of the day he came on here to provide his version of events, and was actually producing some evidence to back things up, but with so many people jumping down his throat and insulting him, he's decided to leave before everything came out. It's a shame as I've always wondered how that period in our history went so drastically wrong, and he could provide a unique insight into the club at that time, from a different side of the whole debacle1 -
Huskaris said:
Good point. I certainly think I'm grown up enough to balance sources and make up my mind.sam3110 said:
🙄 Of course I know what went wrong and why, but it would have been interesting to hear from the other side, and from someone on the other side of the ring, so to speak.Neil_Heaney said:
You genuinely don't know why the Roland era went wrong?sam3110 said:Some people on here showing how blinded by rage they are, especially people who were in and around the club at the same time as Tommy was. I get why you would be, but at the end of the day he came on here to provide his version of events, and was actually producing some evidence to back things up, but with so many people jumping down his throat and insulting him, he's decided to leave before everything came out. It's a shame as I've always wondered how that period in our history went so drastically wrong, and he could provide a unique insight into the club at that time, from a different side of the whole debacle
If something like this ever happens again I'm sure many of us would really appreciate it if people weren't obnoxious wankers, as bad as Driesen might be, I would argue he probably has more of an insight into that period of Charlton than almost everyone on here, quite possibly everyone actually.
Next time let's maybe give people enough rope to hang themselves rather than being keyboard Jeremy Paxmans. More Louis Theroux and less Piers Morgan.
There was a lot more info to come there, albeit from a biased perspective, but if people could remember it's not just them and their vendettas on this forum that would be great.
He's not a murderer, he's a very naughty boy.
You’ve got it the wrong way round H. He was the one who went on the attack. That was why he was here, not to chat to the likes of you and me. He was asked loads of simple questions and wouldn’t answer them.Probably best to ‘cancel’ this thread now, as the arguments are just getting repetitive. 😊4 -
He was asked dozens of questions in rapid succession, many of which were laced with personal attacks.JamesSeed said:Huskaris said:
Good point. I certainly think I'm grown up enough to balance sources and make up my mind.sam3110 said:
🙄 Of course I know what went wrong and why, but it would have been interesting to hear from the other side, and from someone on the other side of the ring, so to speak.Neil_Heaney said:
You genuinely don't know why the Roland era went wrong?sam3110 said:Some people on here showing how blinded by rage they are, especially people who were in and around the club at the same time as Tommy was. I get why you would be, but at the end of the day he came on here to provide his version of events, and was actually producing some evidence to back things up, but with so many people jumping down his throat and insulting him, he's decided to leave before everything came out. It's a shame as I've always wondered how that period in our history went so drastically wrong, and he could provide a unique insight into the club at that time, from a different side of the whole debacle
If something like this ever happens again I'm sure many of us would really appreciate it if people weren't obnoxious wankers, as bad as Driesen might be, I would argue he probably has more of an insight into that period of Charlton than almost everyone on here, quite possibly everyone actually.
Next time let's maybe give people enough rope to hang themselves rather than being keyboard Jeremy Paxmans. More Louis Theroux and less Piers Morgan.
There was a lot more info to come there, albeit from a biased perspective, but if people could remember it's not just them and their vendettas on this forum that would be great.
He's not a murderer, he's a very naughty boy.
You’ve got it the wrong way round H. He was the one who went on the attack. That was why he was here, not to chat to the likes of you and me. He was asked loads of simple questions and wouldn’t answer them.
What do you expect?
I'm not being funny, I know we are supposed to bow to and respect a bunch of people here because they have so much experience etc, but I think a lot of us would have preferred it if the usual bunch had kept quiet for a bit, I've had years of listening to them, and I'm thankful for everything they've done and agree with almost everything they have to say, but if this is some sort of "attack" from Driesen, I doubt it's kept anyone awake at night...
I'd rather listen to his "attacks" and learn a lot from the things he is saying in between these "attacks" than hear nothing at all, an opinion many others seem to share.
The same would go for Roland and Meire too.21 -
jeez I think I’d rather stick pins in my eyes than go back to endlessly arguing about the Roland years again.Huskaris said:
He was asked dozens of questions in rapid succession, many of which were laced with personal attacks.JamesSeed said:Huskaris said:
Good point. I certainly think I'm grown up enough to balance sources and make up my mind.sam3110 said:
🙄 Of course I know what went wrong and why, but it would have been interesting to hear from the other side, and from someone on the other side of the ring, so to speak.Neil_Heaney said:
You genuinely don't know why the Roland era went wrong?sam3110 said:Some people on here showing how blinded by rage they are, especially people who were in and around the club at the same time as Tommy was. I get why you would be, but at the end of the day he came on here to provide his version of events, and was actually producing some evidence to back things up, but with so many people jumping down his throat and insulting him, he's decided to leave before everything came out. It's a shame as I've always wondered how that period in our history went so drastically wrong, and he could provide a unique insight into the club at that time, from a different side of the whole debacle
If something like this ever happens again I'm sure many of us would really appreciate it if people weren't obnoxious wankers, as bad as Driesen might be, I would argue he probably has more of an insight into that period of Charlton than almost everyone on here, quite possibly everyone actually.
Next time let's maybe give people enough rope to hang themselves rather than being keyboard Jeremy Paxmans. More Louis Theroux and less Piers Morgan.
There was a lot more info to come there, albeit from a biased perspective, but if people could remember it's not just them and their vendettas on this forum that would be great.
He's not a murderer, he's a very naughty boy.
You’ve got it the wrong way round H. He was the one who went on the attack. That was why he was here, not to chat to the likes of you and me. He was asked loads of simple questions and wouldn’t answer them.
What do you expect?
I'm not being funny, I know we are supposed to bow to and respect a bunch of people here because they have so much experience etc, but I think a lot of us would have preferred it if the usual bunch had kept quiet for a bit, I've had years of listening to them, and I'm thankful for everything they've done and agree with almost everything they have to say, but if this is some sort of "attack" from Driesen, I doubt it's kept anyone awake at night...
I'd rather listen to his "attacks" and learn a lot from the things he is saying in between these "attacks" than hear nothing at all, an opinion many others seem to share.
The same would go for Roland and Meire too.2 -
Then go and stick pins in your eyes and stay off threads like this in future.JamesSeed said:
jeez I think I’d rather stick pins in my eyes than go back to endlessly arguing about the Roland years again.Huskaris said:
He was asked dozens of questions in rapid succession, many of which were laced with personal attacks.JamesSeed said:Huskaris said:
Good point. I certainly think I'm grown up enough to balance sources and make up my mind.sam3110 said:
🙄 Of course I know what went wrong and why, but it would have been interesting to hear from the other side, and from someone on the other side of the ring, so to speak.Neil_Heaney said:
You genuinely don't know why the Roland era went wrong?sam3110 said:Some people on here showing how blinded by rage they are, especially people who were in and around the club at the same time as Tommy was. I get why you would be, but at the end of the day he came on here to provide his version of events, and was actually producing some evidence to back things up, but with so many people jumping down his throat and insulting him, he's decided to leave before everything came out. It's a shame as I've always wondered how that period in our history went so drastically wrong, and he could provide a unique insight into the club at that time, from a different side of the whole debacle
If something like this ever happens again I'm sure many of us would really appreciate it if people weren't obnoxious wankers, as bad as Driesen might be, I would argue he probably has more of an insight into that period of Charlton than almost everyone on here, quite possibly everyone actually.
Next time let's maybe give people enough rope to hang themselves rather than being keyboard Jeremy Paxmans. More Louis Theroux and less Piers Morgan.
There was a lot more info to come there, albeit from a biased perspective, but if people could remember it's not just them and their vendettas on this forum that would be great.
He's not a murderer, he's a very naughty boy.
You’ve got it the wrong way round H. He was the one who went on the attack. That was why he was here, not to chat to the likes of you and me. He was asked loads of simple questions and wouldn’t answer them.
What do you expect?
I'm not being funny, I know we are supposed to bow to and respect a bunch of people here because they have so much experience etc, but I think a lot of us would have preferred it if the usual bunch had kept quiet for a bit, I've had years of listening to them, and I'm thankful for everything they've done and agree with almost everything they have to say, but if this is some sort of "attack" from Driesen, I doubt it's kept anyone awake at night...
I'd rather listen to his "attacks" and learn a lot from the things he is saying in between these "attacks" than hear nothing at all, an opinion many others seem to share.
The same would go for Roland and Meire too.
It's so simple.
Some people just can't help themselves. To be clear this isn't specifically aimed at you, there's plenty of others who can't help themselves.10 -
I don't think I was guilty of bullying the bloke, at least I hope not, I was just being honest about how I felt, I cant recall being abusive at all anyway apologies if it came across that way.
*Edit I can see looking back I did call him a Bell End, I am a bit of dickhead myself so hopefully no real harm done.8 -
I agree.Huskaris said:
He was asked dozens of questions in rapid succession, many of which were laced with personal attacks.JamesSeed said:Huskaris said:
Good point. I certainly think I'm grown up enough to balance sources and make up my mind.sam3110 said:
🙄 Of course I know what went wrong and why, but it would have been interesting to hear from the other side, and from someone on the other side of the ring, so to speak.Neil_Heaney said:
You genuinely don't know why the Roland era went wrong?sam3110 said:Some people on here showing how blinded by rage they are, especially people who were in and around the club at the same time as Tommy was. I get why you would be, but at the end of the day he came on here to provide his version of events, and was actually producing some evidence to back things up, but with so many people jumping down his throat and insulting him, he's decided to leave before everything came out. It's a shame as I've always wondered how that period in our history went so drastically wrong, and he could provide a unique insight into the club at that time, from a different side of the whole debacle
If something like this ever happens again I'm sure many of us would really appreciate it if people weren't obnoxious wankers, as bad as Driesen might be, I would argue he probably has more of an insight into that period of Charlton than almost everyone on here, quite possibly everyone actually.
Next time let's maybe give people enough rope to hang themselves rather than being keyboard Jeremy Paxmans. More Louis Theroux and less Piers Morgan.
There was a lot more info to come there, albeit from a biased perspective, but if people could remember it's not just them and their vendettas on this forum that would be great.
He's not a murderer, he's a very naughty boy.
You’ve got it the wrong way round H. He was the one who went on the attack. That was why he was here, not to chat to the likes of you and me. He was asked loads of simple questions and wouldn’t answer them.
What do you expect?
I'm not being funny, I know we are supposed to bow to and respect a bunch of people here because they have so much experience etc, but I think a lot of us would have preferred it if the usual bunch had kept quiet for a bit, I've had years of listening to them, and I'm thankful for everything they've done and agree with almost everything they have to say, but if this is some sort of "attack" from Driesen, I doubt it's kept anyone awake at night...
I'd rather listen to his "attacks" and learn a lot from the things he is saying in between these "attacks" than hear nothing at all, an opinion many others seem to share.
The same would go for Roland and Meire too.1 -
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Why should we have to stay off threads where we want to learn something just so others can slag off the poster?Huskaris said:
Then go and stick pins in your eyes and stay off threads like this in future.JamesSeed said:
jeez I think I’d rather stick pins in my eyes than go back to endlessly arguing about the Roland years again.Huskaris said:
He was asked dozens of questions in rapid succession, many of which were laced with personal attacks.JamesSeed said:Huskaris said:
Good point. I certainly think I'm grown up enough to balance sources and make up my mind.sam3110 said:
🙄 Of course I know what went wrong and why, but it would have been interesting to hear from the other side, and from someone on the other side of the ring, so to speak.Neil_Heaney said:
You genuinely don't know why the Roland era went wrong?sam3110 said:Some people on here showing how blinded by rage they are, especially people who were in and around the club at the same time as Tommy was. I get why you would be, but at the end of the day he came on here to provide his version of events, and was actually producing some evidence to back things up, but with so many people jumping down his throat and insulting him, he's decided to leave before everything came out. It's a shame as I've always wondered how that period in our history went so drastically wrong, and he could provide a unique insight into the club at that time, from a different side of the whole debacle
If something like this ever happens again I'm sure many of us would really appreciate it if people weren't obnoxious wankers, as bad as Driesen might be, I would argue he probably has more of an insight into that period of Charlton than almost everyone on here, quite possibly everyone actually.
Next time let's maybe give people enough rope to hang themselves rather than being keyboard Jeremy Paxmans. More Louis Theroux and less Piers Morgan.
There was a lot more info to come there, albeit from a biased perspective, but if people could remember it's not just them and their vendettas on this forum that would be great.
He's not a murderer, he's a very naughty boy.
You’ve got it the wrong way round H. He was the one who went on the attack. That was why he was here, not to chat to the likes of you and me. He was asked loads of simple questions and wouldn’t answer them.
What do you expect?
I'm not being funny, I know we are supposed to bow to and respect a bunch of people here because they have so much experience etc, but I think a lot of us would have preferred it if the usual bunch had kept quiet for a bit, I've had years of listening to them, and I'm thankful for everything they've done and agree with almost everything they have to say, but if this is some sort of "attack" from Driesen, I doubt it's kept anyone awake at night...
I'd rather listen to his "attacks" and learn a lot from the things he is saying in between these "attacks" than hear nothing at all, an opinion many others seem to share.
The same would go for Roland and Meire too.
It's so simple.
Some people just can't help themselves. To be clear this isn't specifically aimed at you, there's plenty of others who can't help themselves.
Bring back flags so we can flag when people are being dicks on the forum, it happens too often. Pretty sure Vanilla have a function where posts with 5+ flags get hidden, activate that or something.1 -
I wasn't party to the decision to remove the flags as it was before my time, but from what I recall we often ended up with people involved in an argument tit-for-tat flagging. Consequently I think it'd probably cause more problems than it solves. However, as has been said on several occasions, if you think specific posts have crossed the line it's a good idea to DM the mods with links to those that are causing you concern, and we'll take a look.
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I wasn’t abusive to him, but I will point out that he added my name into an attack on Jimmy Stone that had nothing to do with me. He was trying to settle scores using an issue (Martin Sandgaard) that has nothing to do with him, so it’s unsurprising if the people he has a go at stand up to him.12
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Fixed thataliwibble said:I wasn't party to the decision to remove the flags as it was before my time, but from what I recall we often ended up with people involved in an argument tit-for-tat flagging. Consequently I think it'd probably cause more problems than it solves. However, as has been said on several occasions, if you think specific posts have crossed the line it's a good idea to DM the mods with links to those that are causing you concern, and we'll take a look into it4 -
And the answer to the thread title once again is..... Yes!1
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Yes and I know you don't need, or probably want, people defending your position but your posts, angle, agenda, call it what you will, wasn't the problem.Airman Brown said:I wasn’t abusive to him, but I will point out that he added my name into an attack on Jimmy Stone that had nothing to do with me. He was trying to settle scores using an issue (Martin Sandgaard) that has nothing to do with him, so it’s unsurprising if the people he has a go at stand up to him.
The problem was the posts that added nothing other than telling him to fuck off, suggest he shouldn't be here or similar.
As you well know there aren't two sides to every story, there are often dozens. Most of them are often a total load of bullshit but normally none of them are absolute truth either.
I prefer to make my own mind up.15 -
It's language like this that causes the problems. Aggressive, or passive aggressive, call it what you like, there's really no need for it. Were you like this in the Duchatelet years?Huskaris said:
Then go and stick pins in your eyes and stay off threads like this in future.JamesSeed said:
jeez I think I’d rather stick pins in my eyes than go back to endlessly arguing about the Roland years again.Huskaris said:
He was asked dozens of questions in rapid succession, many of which were laced with personal attacks.JamesSeed said:Huskaris said:
Good point. I certainly think I'm grown up enough to balance sources and make up my mind.sam3110 said:
🙄 Of course I know what went wrong and why, but it would have been interesting to hear from the other side, and from someone on the other side of the ring, so to speak.Neil_Heaney said:
You genuinely don't know why the Roland era went wrong?sam3110 said:Some people on here showing how blinded by rage they are, especially people who were in and around the club at the same time as Tommy was. I get why you would be, but at the end of the day he came on here to provide his version of events, and was actually producing some evidence to back things up, but with so many people jumping down his throat and insulting him, he's decided to leave before everything came out. It's a shame as I've always wondered how that period in our history went so drastically wrong, and he could provide a unique insight into the club at that time, from a different side of the whole debacle
If something like this ever happens again I'm sure many of us would really appreciate it if people weren't obnoxious wankers, as bad as Driesen might be, I would argue he probably has more of an insight into that period of Charlton than almost everyone on here, quite possibly everyone actually.
Next time let's maybe give people enough rope to hang themselves rather than being keyboard Jeremy Paxmans. More Louis Theroux and less Piers Morgan.
There was a lot more info to come there, albeit from a biased perspective, but if people could remember it's not just them and their vendettas on this forum that would be great.
He's not a murderer, he's a very naughty boy.
You’ve got it the wrong way round H. He was the one who went on the attack. That was why he was here, not to chat to the likes of you and me. He was asked loads of simple questions and wouldn’t answer them.
What do you expect?
I'm not being funny, I know we are supposed to bow to and respect a bunch of people here because they have so much experience etc, but I think a lot of us would have preferred it if the usual bunch had kept quiet for a bit, I've had years of listening to them, and I'm thankful for everything they've done and agree with almost everything they have to say, but if this is some sort of "attack" from Driesen, I doubt it's kept anyone awake at night...
I'd rather listen to his "attacks" and learn a lot from the things he is saying in between these "attacks" than hear nothing at all, an opinion many others seem to share.
The same would go for Roland and Meire too.
It's so simple.
Some people just can't help themselves. To be clear this isn't specifically aimed at you, there's plenty of others who can't help themselves.10 -
Are you serious? You said you'd stick pins in your eyes, I said ok, stick pins in your eyes.JamesSeed said:
It's language like this that causes the problems. Aggressive, or passive aggressive, call it what you like, there's really no need for it. Were you like this in the Duchatelet years?Huskaris said:
Then go and stick pins in your eyes and stay off threads like this in future.JamesSeed said:
jeez I think I’d rather stick pins in my eyes than go back to endlessly arguing about the Roland years again.Huskaris said:
He was asked dozens of questions in rapid succession, many of which were laced with personal attacks.JamesSeed said:Huskaris said:
Good point. I certainly think I'm grown up enough to balance sources and make up my mind.sam3110 said:
🙄 Of course I know what went wrong and why, but it would have been interesting to hear from the other side, and from someone on the other side of the ring, so to speak.Neil_Heaney said:
You genuinely don't know why the Roland era went wrong?sam3110 said:Some people on here showing how blinded by rage they are, especially people who were in and around the club at the same time as Tommy was. I get why you would be, but at the end of the day he came on here to provide his version of events, and was actually producing some evidence to back things up, but with so many people jumping down his throat and insulting him, he's decided to leave before everything came out. It's a shame as I've always wondered how that period in our history went so drastically wrong, and he could provide a unique insight into the club at that time, from a different side of the whole debacle
If something like this ever happens again I'm sure many of us would really appreciate it if people weren't obnoxious wankers, as bad as Driesen might be, I would argue he probably has more of an insight into that period of Charlton than almost everyone on here, quite possibly everyone actually.
Next time let's maybe give people enough rope to hang themselves rather than being keyboard Jeremy Paxmans. More Louis Theroux and less Piers Morgan.
There was a lot more info to come there, albeit from a biased perspective, but if people could remember it's not just them and their vendettas on this forum that would be great.
He's not a murderer, he's a very naughty boy.
You’ve got it the wrong way round H. He was the one who went on the attack. That was why he was here, not to chat to the likes of you and me. He was asked loads of simple questions and wouldn’t answer them.
What do you expect?
I'm not being funny, I know we are supposed to bow to and respect a bunch of people here because they have so much experience etc, but I think a lot of us would have preferred it if the usual bunch had kept quiet for a bit, I've had years of listening to them, and I'm thankful for everything they've done and agree with almost everything they have to say, but if this is some sort of "attack" from Driesen, I doubt it's kept anyone awake at night...
I'd rather listen to his "attacks" and learn a lot from the things he is saying in between these "attacks" than hear nothing at all, an opinion many others seem to share.
The same would go for Roland and Meire too.
It's so simple.
Some people just can't help themselves. To be clear this isn't specifically aimed at you, there's plenty of others who can't help themselves.
Don't bother mate, I'm not going to rise to it.
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Yeah you'd probably want to anonymise the data on likes, lols and flagsaliwibble said:I wasn't party to the decision to remove the flags as it was before my time, but from what I recall we often ended up with people involved in an argument tit-for-tat flagging. Consequently I think it'd probably cause more problems than it solves. However, as has been said on several occasions, if you think specific posts have crossed the line it's a good idea to DM the mods with links to those that are causing you concern, and we'll take a look.0 -
Flags were removed shortly after that one user's poll was infamously also removed from the forum...
Coincidence??? I think not. I demand an investigation. :-)3
