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Chuks Aneke - speculation re 2023/24 season (p60)
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JohnfromNorfolk said:Any of you older lifers remember David Fairclough Liverpool super sub?
Don't remember Liverpool fans moaning that he was only used as a substitute often scoring goals.
Which one of those you dropping?1 -
Chunes said:You may be forgetting that Aneke was only converted to a number 9 at the tail end of that Championship season with us. So his goalscoring record can be taken with a large pinch of salt. Although he only got 1 goal that season ("1 goal chuks" lol) I think many people on here could see the potential he had playing in that position and he proved that the next year.
Also worth mentioning that re: Championship scoring records, Stockley's is woeful. He scored 1 goal in 16 Championship appearances in 20/21. And 4 goals in 32 appearances in 19/20. Preston fans deride him. He averages less than 5 a season. So if you're beating Chuks with that stick, the same applies to Jayden.
I don't understand why all the focus is on Chuks at the moment. When the guy is on the pitch, he contributes massively for us, as he proved on Saturday. Gilbey also got a 3-year contract, plays a lot of minutes and contributes approximately f--- all but his thread isn't constantly popping up.
As I say, as a sub he offers the expensive icing on the cake but we have to find four other strikers and a few goal scoring midfielders too.0 -
Off_it said:JohnfromNorfolk said:Any of you older lifers remember David Fairclough Liverpool super sub?
Don't remember Liverpool fans moaning that he was only used as a substitute often scoring goals.
Which one of those you dropping?
But the manager at the time must have thought one of those strikers needed to be substituted during the game.0 -
JohnfromNorfolk said:Any of you older lifers remember David Fairclough Liverpool super sub?
Don't remember Liverpool fans moaning that he was only used as a substitute often scoring goals.0 -
Addick Addict said:Chunes said:You may be forgetting that Aneke was only converted to a number 9 at the tail end of that Championship season with us. So his goalscoring record can be taken with a large pinch of salt. Although he only got 1 goal that season ("1 goal chuks" lol) I think many people on here could see the potential he had playing in that position and he proved that the next year.
Also worth mentioning that re: Championship scoring records, Stockley's is woeful. He scored 1 goal in 16 Championship appearances in 20/21. And 4 goals in 32 appearances in 19/20. Preston fans deride him. He averages less than 5 a season. So if you're beating Chuks with that stick, the same applies to Jayden.
I don't understand why all the focus is on Chuks at the moment. When the guy is on the pitch, he contributes massively for us, as he proved on Saturday. Gilbey also got a 3-year contract, plays a lot of minutes and contributes approximately f--- all but his thread isn't constantly popping up.
As I say, as a sub he offers the expensive icing on the cake but we have to find four other strikers and a few goal scoring midfielders too.1 -
Chunes said:Addick Addict said:Chunes said:You may be forgetting that Aneke was only converted to a number 9 at the tail end of that Championship season with us. So his goalscoring record can be taken with a large pinch of salt. Although he only got 1 goal that season ("1 goal chuks" lol) I think many people on here could see the potential he had playing in that position and he proved that the next year.
Also worth mentioning that re: Championship scoring records, Stockley's is woeful. He scored 1 goal in 16 Championship appearances in 20/21. And 4 goals in 32 appearances in 19/20. Preston fans deride him. He averages less than 5 a season. So if you're beating Chuks with that stick, the same applies to Jayden.
I don't understand why all the focus is on Chuks at the moment. When the guy is on the pitch, he contributes massively for us, as he proved on Saturday. Gilbey also got a 3-year contract, plays a lot of minutes and contributes approximately f--- all but his thread isn't constantly popping up.
As I say, as a sub he offers the expensive icing on the cake but we have to find four other strikers and a few goal scoring midfielders too.0 -
Addick Addict said:Chunes said:Addick Addict said:Chunes said:You may be forgetting that Aneke was only converted to a number 9 at the tail end of that Championship season with us. So his goalscoring record can be taken with a large pinch of salt. Although he only got 1 goal that season ("1 goal chuks" lol) I think many people on here could see the potential he had playing in that position and he proved that the next year.
Also worth mentioning that re: Championship scoring records, Stockley's is woeful. He scored 1 goal in 16 Championship appearances in 20/21. And 4 goals in 32 appearances in 19/20. Preston fans deride him. He averages less than 5 a season. So if you're beating Chuks with that stick, the same applies to Jayden.
I don't understand why all the focus is on Chuks at the moment. When the guy is on the pitch, he contributes massively for us, as he proved on Saturday. Gilbey also got a 3-year contract, plays a lot of minutes and contributes approximately f--- all but his thread isn't constantly popping up.
As I say, as a sub he offers the expensive icing on the cake but we have to find four other strikers and a few goal scoring midfielders too.
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Chunes said:Addick Addict said:Chunes said:Addick Addict said:Chunes said:You may be forgetting that Aneke was only converted to a number 9 at the tail end of that Championship season with us. So his goalscoring record can be taken with a large pinch of salt. Although he only got 1 goal that season ("1 goal chuks" lol) I think many people on here could see the potential he had playing in that position and he proved that the next year.
Also worth mentioning that re: Championship scoring records, Stockley's is woeful. He scored 1 goal in 16 Championship appearances in 20/21. And 4 goals in 32 appearances in 19/20. Preston fans deride him. He averages less than 5 a season. So if you're beating Chuks with that stick, the same applies to Jayden.
I don't understand why all the focus is on Chuks at the moment. When the guy is on the pitch, he contributes massively for us, as he proved on Saturday. Gilbey also got a 3-year contract, plays a lot of minutes and contributes approximately f--- all but his thread isn't constantly popping up.
As I say, as a sub he offers the expensive icing on the cake but we have to find four other strikers and a few goal scoring midfielders too.0 -
Addick Addict said:Chunes said:Addick Addict said:Chunes said:Addick Addict said:Chunes said:You may be forgetting that Aneke was only converted to a number 9 at the tail end of that Championship season with us. So his goalscoring record can be taken with a large pinch of salt. Although he only got 1 goal that season ("1 goal chuks" lol) I think many people on here could see the potential he had playing in that position and he proved that the next year.
Also worth mentioning that re: Championship scoring records, Stockley's is woeful. He scored 1 goal in 16 Championship appearances in 20/21. And 4 goals in 32 appearances in 19/20. Preston fans deride him. He averages less than 5 a season. So if you're beating Chuks with that stick, the same applies to Jayden.
I don't understand why all the focus is on Chuks at the moment. When the guy is on the pitch, he contributes massively for us, as he proved on Saturday. Gilbey also got a 3-year contract, plays a lot of minutes and contributes approximately f--- all but his thread isn't constantly popping up.
As I say, as a sub he offers the expensive icing on the cake but we have to find four other strikers and a few goal scoring midfielders too.
You've really got an issue with those yellow cards eh. Nevermind our whole squad has the worst disciplinary record in the league!
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Chuks: 5 reds in 364 games
Stockley: 5 reds in 385 games0 -
Chunes said:Addick Addict said:Chunes said:Addick Addict said:Chunes said:Addick Addict said:Chunes said:You may be forgetting that Aneke was only converted to a number 9 at the tail end of that Championship season with us. So his goalscoring record can be taken with a large pinch of salt. Although he only got 1 goal that season ("1 goal chuks" lol) I think many people on here could see the potential he had playing in that position and he proved that the next year.
Also worth mentioning that re: Championship scoring records, Stockley's is woeful. He scored 1 goal in 16 Championship appearances in 20/21. And 4 goals in 32 appearances in 19/20. Preston fans deride him. He averages less than 5 a season. So if you're beating Chuks with that stick, the same applies to Jayden.
I don't understand why all the focus is on Chuks at the moment. When the guy is on the pitch, he contributes massively for us, as he proved on Saturday. Gilbey also got a 3-year contract, plays a lot of minutes and contributes approximately f--- all but his thread isn't constantly popping up.
As I say, as a sub he offers the expensive icing on the cake but we have to find four other strikers and a few goal scoring midfielders too.
You've really got an issue with those yellow cards eh. Nevermind our whole squad has the worst disciplinary record in the league.
And you keep banging on about the fact that he was only converted to a striker a couple of seasons ago when his average of 3 assists a season rather questions what he was doing before that? It didn't work out for him in the Championship for us or Birmingham or in Belgium - why at the age 30 would we expect him to improve on a record of 7 goals and 2 assists in 76 appearances?
As I say, I believe that he will be the icing on the cake but unlikely to be the cake itself. And signing him with those doubts means that we have to have five strikers instead of four on our books which then, in turn, financially impacts on us in other areas - such as the need to find a couple of goal scoring/creative midfielders.0 - Sponsored links:
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Addick Addict said:Chunes said:Addick Addict said:Chunes said:Addick Addict said:Chunes said:Addick Addict said:Chunes said:You may be forgetting that Aneke was only converted to a number 9 at the tail end of that Championship season with us. So his goalscoring record can be taken with a large pinch of salt. Although he only got 1 goal that season ("1 goal chuks" lol) I think many people on here could see the potential he had playing in that position and he proved that the next year.
Also worth mentioning that re: Championship scoring records, Stockley's is woeful. He scored 1 goal in 16 Championship appearances in 20/21. And 4 goals in 32 appearances in 19/20. Preston fans deride him. He averages less than 5 a season. So if you're beating Chuks with that stick, the same applies to Jayden.
I don't understand why all the focus is on Chuks at the moment. When the guy is on the pitch, he contributes massively for us, as he proved on Saturday. Gilbey also got a 3-year contract, plays a lot of minutes and contributes approximately f--- all but his thread isn't constantly popping up.
As I say, as a sub he offers the expensive icing on the cake but we have to find four other strikers and a few goal scoring midfielders too.
You've really got an issue with those yellow cards eh. Nevermind our whole squad has the worst disciplinary record in the league.
And you keep banging on about the fact that he was only converted to a striker a couple of seasons ago when his average of 3 assists a season rather questions what he was doing before that? It didn't work out for him in the Championship for us or Birmingham or in Belgium - why at the age 30 would we expect him to improve on a record of 7 goals and 2 assists in 76 appearances?
As I say, I believe that he will be the icing on the cake but unlikely to be the cake itself. And signing him with those doubts means that we have to have five strikers instead of four on our books which then, in turn, financially impacts on us in other areas - such as the need to find a couple of goal scoring/creative midfielders.
For more context I looked up two players (Gilbey and Pearce) and Gilbey has a much higher yellow-cards-to-games ratio than Chuks. I can't be bothered to look at any more. But that was just two players.
As for his record before he converted to a striker, I don't understand the point you're trying to make. He's good for us now, he regularly scores goals in this league as a 9, but it sounds like you're criticising him for not scoring goals for other clubs in the past, while playing in a different position, or in a higher division. What does it matter?0 -
Chunes said:Addick Addict said:Chunes said:Addick Addict said:Chunes said:Addick Addict said:Chunes said:Addick Addict said:Chunes said:You may be forgetting that Aneke was only converted to a number 9 at the tail end of that Championship season with us. So his goalscoring record can be taken with a large pinch of salt. Although he only got 1 goal that season ("1 goal chuks" lol) I think many people on here could see the potential he had playing in that position and he proved that the next year.
Also worth mentioning that re: Championship scoring records, Stockley's is woeful. He scored 1 goal in 16 Championship appearances in 20/21. And 4 goals in 32 appearances in 19/20. Preston fans deride him. He averages less than 5 a season. So if you're beating Chuks with that stick, the same applies to Jayden.
I don't understand why all the focus is on Chuks at the moment. When the guy is on the pitch, he contributes massively for us, as he proved on Saturday. Gilbey also got a 3-year contract, plays a lot of minutes and contributes approximately f--- all but his thread isn't constantly popping up.
As I say, as a sub he offers the expensive icing on the cake but we have to find four other strikers and a few goal scoring midfielders too.
You've really got an issue with those yellow cards eh. Nevermind our whole squad has the worst disciplinary record in the league.
And you keep banging on about the fact that he was only converted to a striker a couple of seasons ago when his average of 3 assists a season rather questions what he was doing before that? It didn't work out for him in the Championship for us or Birmingham or in Belgium - why at the age 30 would we expect him to improve on a record of 7 goals and 2 assists in 76 appearances?
As I say, I believe that he will be the icing on the cake but unlikely to be the cake itself. And signing him with those doubts means that we have to have five strikers instead of four on our books which then, in turn, financially impacts on us in other areas - such as the need to find a couple of goal scoring/creative midfielders.
For more context I looked up two players (Gilbey and Pearce) and Gilbey has a much higher yellow-cards-to-games ratio than Chuks. I can't be bothered to look at any more. And that was just two players.
As for his record before he converted to a striker, I don't understand the point you're trying to make. He's good for us now, he regularly scores goals in this league as a 9, but it sounds like you're criticising him for not scoring goals for other clubs in the past, while playing in a different position, or in a higher division. What does it matter?
Aneke only plays a certain number of minutes, either because he can't start or because he doesn't even make the matchday squad in the first place which is why we need five and not four strikers - there are always going to be doubts about what, if any, form his participation will be and we cannot wait for the next transfer window to rectify the situation if he and when he is absent again or because two of our other three strikers are out as happened with Washington and Stockley. The difference between Aneke and those two is that they can start when fit.
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He's scored 3 goals in 6 appearances. And it's been established that his injury record isn't even that bad.
Think I'll leave it there. Don't want to clog up the thread.8 -
addick1956 said:Chunes said:You may be forgetting that Aneke was only converted to a number 9 at the tail end of that Championship season with us. So his goalscoring record can be taken with a large pinch of salt. Although he only got 1 goal that season ("1 goal chuks" lol) I think many people on here could see the potential he had playing in that position and he proved that the next year.
Also worth mentioning that re: Championship scoring records, Stockley's is woeful. He scored 1 goal in 16 Championship appearances in 20/21. And 4 goals in 32 appearances in 19/20. Preston fans deride him. He averages less than 5 a season. So if you're beating Chuks with that stick, the same applies to Jayden.
I don't understand why all the focus is on Chuks at the moment. When the guy is on the pitch, he contributes massively for us, as he proved on Saturday. Gilbey also got a 3-year contract, plays a lot of minutes and contributes approximately f--- all but his thread isn't constantly popping up.3 -
addick1956 said:Scoham said:addick1956 said:Chunes said:You may be forgetting that Aneke was only converted to a number 9 at the tail end of that Championship season with us. So his goalscoring record can be taken with a large pinch of salt. Although he only got 1 goal that season ("1 goal chuks" lol) I think many people on here could see the potential he had playing in that position and he proved that the next year.
Also worth mentioning that re: Championship scoring records, Stockley's is woeful. He scored 1 goal in 16 Championship appearances in 20/21. And 4 goals in 32 appearances in 19/20. Preston fans deride him. He averages less than 5 a season. So if you're beating Chuks with that stick, the same applies to Jayden.
I don't understand why all the focus is on Chuks at the moment. When the guy is on the pitch, he contributes massively for us, as he proved on Saturday. Gilbey also got a 3-year contract, plays a lot of minutes and contributes approximately f--- all but his thread isn't constantly popping up.
He's had 2 day's training since February and still scored within 10/15 mins of coming on.2 -
The cycle of Chuks discourse is worn out now. Looks like a good player > scores, he's a genius > gets injured, bin him > why isn't Chuks starting??!? > scores, gets injured > bin him I hate humans who get hurt > he leaves > we didn't offer him enough money we're pathetic > use a youth player as a backup striker > wE nEvEr RePlAcEd ChUkS > replace Chuks with Chuks > NO NOT LIKE THAT > scores, he's a genius > gets injured, bin him. Repeat ad nauseum. The fact is he's a good goalscorer in League One. We are in League One. He's not fit enough to start regularly so he has to be managed as an impact sub. That might not be the ideal scenario but the reality is there's not a lot of quality players happy to sit on the bench for a League One team who are also good enough to turn a game in your favour. Chuks is, and he can. I doubt there's too many people who wouldn't have preferred we be able to bring on Chuks rather than Davison or Burstow earlier this season. The fact is we've got him contracted for another three years so let's stop arguing in circles about it. He's there, he'll be on the bench and he'll come on. Adapt.
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addick1956 said:Covered End said:addick1956 said:Scoham said:addick1956 said:Chunes said:You may be forgetting that Aneke was only converted to a number 9 at the tail end of that Championship season with us. So his goalscoring record can be taken with a large pinch of salt. Although he only got 1 goal that season ("1 goal chuks" lol) I think many people on here could see the potential he had playing in that position and he proved that the next year.
Also worth mentioning that re: Championship scoring records, Stockley's is woeful. He scored 1 goal in 16 Championship appearances in 20/21. And 4 goals in 32 appearances in 19/20. Preston fans deride him. He averages less than 5 a season. So if you're beating Chuks with that stick, the same applies to Jayden.
I don't understand why all the focus is on Chuks at the moment. When the guy is on the pitch, he contributes massively for us, as he proved on Saturday. Gilbey also got a 3-year contract, plays a lot of minutes and contributes approximately f--- all but his thread isn't constantly popping up.
He's had 2 day's training since February and still scored within 10/15 mins of coming on.4 -
Sage said:So much crap spouted about Aneke it’s tiresome.
Aneke has featured in 68 games so far in the last 2 seasons, that could be 72 by the end of the season if he features in each of the last 4. That would average 36 games a season and guess what, that’s the same number as Dobson and Gilbey this season and is anyone saying about their lack of availability? Who cares if he doesn’t start games often at all? The moment he steps on the pitch he impacts it and more often than not will create a chance for himself or others, we don’t have anywhere near enough players with that ability. Aneke scored 15 league goals last season, 9 of them from the bench. His goal per minute ratio was around one every 100 minutes. Incredible record whatever way you want to dress it up.
He started 4 games in a row on his return to us because we had no other option, we gained 10 points from those 4. He also had a week to recover between each game other than when we went from Monday to Saturday with Portsmouth to Wimbledon. The following game was a midweek and so he was on the bench. We simply had to play him that much from the start, but it worked didn’t it? Without him and his presence, we would not have gained those points. People focus so much on the outputs of starts or whatever but not on the outcomes and influence on the pitch and that’s what really matters. But the outputs he has are still respectable anyway because even if he has missed a chunk in the last 2 months, he’s actually very rarely ‘unavailable’.
He’s a top player at this level. I said it before the start of last season, got laughed at, and yet was proved right. I said we didn’t replace him this season, Adkins wanted to go with Davison and look what happened. Not good enough, won’t be here next season. Aneke’s now back and next season when we have 4 good strikers, he won’t be required to be pushed through starting all the time but he will play when he’s ready and needed and he’ll score and impact games in the way we know he will.
Genuinely so tired of reading the same nonsense about him. You don’t have to agree on the length of contract, fine, but you don’t know the details behind it, his salary, the terms, his living situation, you only know he’s a recent new father but you don’t know him as a person, you don’t know him as a teammate, you don’t know him medically, emotionally, physically, nothing. The only thing you can do is judge him on his ability when he steps onto the pitch and that has been proven to be influential at this level and that is, simply, all we really should care about because that’s all you’re ever going to know and get.Look forward to seeing him back out doing the business so these threads can be about how good he is because that’s all that really matters.5 -
Aneke on as a 78th minute sub.
Aneke gets an assist for Washington 80th minute.4 - Sponsored links:
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Smashes in another appearance today!0
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Covered End said:Aneke on as a 78th minute sub.
Aneke gets an assist for Washington 80th minute.1 -
Goal and an assist in the last two games. Twenty minutes in total?2
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JamesSeed said:Goal and an assist in the last two games. Twenty minutes in total?4
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Love Chuks0
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Awful. What's the point acknowledging that he scored, as he didn't start.2
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I like that Jackson brought him on to bring our complement of players up to eleven rather than subbing off a striker. With us in the lead already too!9
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You can’t get much better of a league one reserve forward than Aneke. Can’t stay on the pitch long enough so you don’t want him being your primary attacking option but as someone who comes on with 30 minutes to go and the occasional start when Stockley is injured or out of form, he is perfect for that role.13
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