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Wayne Mumford appointed as Commercial Director
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Lol!!, I know I should know better!!😂, stupid of me to suggest.Swisdom said:
Are you new around here? That’s not the CL waypaulfox said:I know it’s probably against the grain on here,but should we wait for facts before going into meltdown about how difunctional and badly run our club is? Keep our powder dry maybe?.
And I’ve one lol already, I’m flying!!!!!!!!🤣2 -
It’s called a rumour and someone else has confirmed it on here as well.paulfox said:I know it’s probably against the grain on here,but should we wait for facts before going into meltdown about how difunctional and badly run our club is? Keep our powder dry maybe?.
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That would be interesting. Next few days could tell us a lot0
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Have to say this seemed to be on the cards once Joket hired0
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I believe this is very true.0
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There you go again shirty, you chose not to educate me the other day. I didn’t say it was bollox did I? Put your knickers back on straight until we know facts.👍shirty5 said:
It’s called a rumour and someone else has confirmed it on here as well.paulfox said:I know it’s probably against the grain on here,but should we wait for facts before going into meltdown about how difunctional and badly run our club is? Keep our powder dry maybe?.
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Knickers back on? Seen and notedpaulfox said:
There you go again shirty, you chose not to educate me the other day. I didn’t say it was bollox did I? Put your knickers back on straight until we know facts.👍shirty5 said:
It’s called a rumour and someone else has confirmed it on here as well.paulfox said:I know it’s probably against the grain on here,but should we wait for facts before going into meltdown about how difunctional and badly run our club is? Keep our powder dry maybe?.
If there is an issue with it, I’m sure it will get deleted1 -
https://www.cafc.co.uk/news/view/626277969e24b/brian-jokat-appointed-as-chief-operating-officerRedrobo said:
Who or what is a Joket?razil said:Have to say this seemed to be on the cards once Joket hired
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He wasn’t overqualified - that’s just people swallowing the PR bullshit. Arguably he wasn’t appropriately qualified to do the job he was asked to do - much like Roddy.Athletico Charlton said:In my experience, Wayne is a good guy and unlike his boss he knew what he didn’t know and was willing to listen and learn about that. But if you have someone above you who wants to make all the decisions himself you are going to struggle.I think TS had and probably still has wildly unrealistic ideas about the commercial potential of the club in L1. The only deals that could be done are the ones that have been, and as such they don’t reflect badly on WM.37 -
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Knickers back on? Seen and notedpaulfox said:
There you go again shirty, you chose not to educate me the other day. I didn’t say it was bollox did I? Put your knickers back on straight until we know facts.👍shirty5 said:
It’s called a rumour and someone else has confirmed it on here as well.paulfox said:I know it’s probably against the grain on here,but should we wait for facts before going into meltdown about how difunctional and badly run our club is? Keep our powder dry maybe?.
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Before we get any knickers twisted IF this rumour is true its a fact that TS took over the club and made 3 appointments to run the club
Mumford
Roddy
Adkins (and his subsequent replacement sacked)
All gone within about 20 months. That is not positive however you dress it up9 -
Heard very similar, goal post moved a number of times after deals agreed in principle, leaving WM to go back to the potenial deals which meant they fall through..Airman Brown said:
He wasn’t overqualified - that’s just people swallowing the PR bullshit. Arguably he wasn’t appropriately qualified to do the job he was asked to do - much like Roddy.Athletico Charlton said:In my experience, Wayne is a good guy and unlike his boss he knew what he didn’t know and was willing to listen and learn about that. But if you have someone above you who wants to make all the decisions himself you are going to struggle.I think TS had and probably still has wildly unrealistic ideas about the commercial potential of the club in L1. The only deals that could be done are the ones that have been, and as such they don’t reflect badly on WM.0 -
Can’t see any of this changing until he realises he needs to take a step back and let his staff (the right staff) get on with their jobs. Appoint a CEO and step back. Bloody control freak.3
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👍ForeverAddickted said:
https://www.cafc.co.uk/news/view/626277969e24b/brian-jokat-appointed-as-chief-operating-officerRedrobo said:
Who or what is a Joket?razil said:Have to say this seemed to be on the cards once Joket hired1 -
the shirt sponsorship deal , if the numbers Ive heard from last season were true, i'd like to know how they compare to other league one clubs because Swisdoms old mans firm were back up, i think, because someone pulled out wasn't what i'd consider a lot of dough for such a deal but I may have guesstimated the value in the wrong ball park and if they hadn't come in who knows what we'd have got .
A lot of supposition there but that's what we're here for .
also as airman says league one is guff for any deals of significance but id be interested to know how much ipswich or pompey's shirt sponsors pay
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Just shows the complete naive from TS. I’m really starting to think we have another bad owner at the club!Dizzle said:Can’t see any of this changing until he realises he needs to take a step back and let his staff (the right staff) get on with their jobs. Appoint a CEO and step back. Bloody control freak.
Why can’t things run smoothly for this club for a change!!!!0 - Sponsored links:
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Only positive is he realised his mistakes and moved the latter two on.JohnnyH2 said:Before we get any knickers twisted IF this rumour is true its a fact that TS took over the club and made 3 appointments to run the club
Mumford
Roddy
Adkins (and his subsequent replacement sacked)
All gone within about 20 months. That is not positive however you dress it up
If this is entirely Mumford’s choice that’s a bit different.
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I would suggest the people he employed weren't the problem in its self. The problem was they were given different roles to what they had been successful in before.JohnnyH2 said:Before we get any knickers twisted IF this rumour is true its a fact that TS took over the club and made 3 appointments to run the club
Mumford
Roddy
Adkins (and his subsequent replacement sacked)
All gone within about 20 months. That is not positive however you dress it up
Right people, wrong jobs, and this is a trend I see continuing.4 -
Have we gone from the ridiculous to the sublime? RD had no interest in the club, whilst TS has too much interest in its running. Somewhere in between would be rather nice, but that won’t happen whilst TS is treating the club like a family business.
Having said that, and I can’t speak from personal experience, if I had pumped a lot of my own cash into a new enterprise, and things hadn’t turned out how I had hoped, maybe I would have indulged in a degree of nepotism, but only if those family members had the appropriate skills, otherwise it would out of the frying pan into the fire.
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What about his sons?4
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The kind of appointment made by a person that didn't have/hasn't got the first clue about what he was getting himself into. Ditto Roddy.1
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And yet many want a CEO appointed. If he appointed a CEO would anyone trust TS pick the right one?carly burn said:The kind of appointment made by a person that didn't have/hasn't got the first clue about what he was getting himself into. Ditto Roddy.1 -
Still do. Completely different though.Scoham said:
And yet many want a CEO appointed. If he appointed a CEO would anyone trust TS pick the right one?carly burn said:The kind of appointment made by a person that didn't have/hasn't got the first clue about what he was getting himself into. Ditto Roddy.
We desperately need someone to oversee the day to day running off this club.
A commercial director trying to drum up business from all corners of the world really isn't necessary in league one.1 -
TS has handed over at least part of that responsibility by appointing Jokat.1
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Very harsh on WM.carly burn said:The kind of appointment made by a person that didn't have/hasn't got the first clue about what he was getting himself into. Ditto Roddy.
WM has a commercial sales background and has worked in football and with Charlton.
Was he a prefect fit for commercial director? No, but he wasn't totally unqualified either.
He's done some good deals (his key task) for a league 1 club, hugely improved CharltonTV and all while having the distraction of covering for a non-existent COO/CEO.
If he goes, thanks and good luck Wayne.23 -
Interesting if he is going in view of the fact he was described in great detail as being instrumental in identifying us as Sandgaard's takeover proposition. It can't have been the 21 months either of them envisaged.0
