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Summer 2022 transfer rumours (Gilbey loan confirmed p513, a signing falls through last minute p541)

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  • Hal1x
    Hal1x Posts: 4,265
    Macronate said:
    Scoham said:
    Only got 7 games for Plymouth from Jan til the end of the season, which isn't that impressive
    Only missed eight games in total - Was primarily played in Midfield though, and used off the bench

    https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/steven-sessegnon/leistungsdaten/spieler/406558/plus/0?saison=2021
    He fails the height test.  His twin at 178cm is 4 cms taller. 
    How can they be twins if they’re not the same height?
    I thought  that but he and Ryan were born on the same day  18th May 2002. Perhaps they have different mothers 😇
    Macronate said:
    Scoham said:
    Only got 7 games for Plymouth from Jan til the end of the season, which isn't that impressive
    Only missed eight games in total - Was primarily played in Midfield though, and used off the bench

    https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/steven-sessegnon/leistungsdaten/spieler/406558/plus/0?saison=2021
    He fails the height test.  His twin at 178cm is 4 cms taller. 
    How can they be twins if they’re not the same height?
    I thought  that but he and Ryan were born on the same day  18th May 2002. Perhaps they have different mothers 😇
    Arnie Schwarzenegger and Danny Devito are twins and they’re not the same height.
    Of course they're not the same height... Arnie is a robot
    You are living in the past, Arnie became warm liquid goo!
  • king addick
    king addick Posts: 3,718
    Hal1x said:
    Macronate said:
    Scoham said:
    Only got 7 games for Plymouth from Jan til the end of the season, which isn't that impressive
    Only missed eight games in total - Was primarily played in Midfield though, and used off the bench

    https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/steven-sessegnon/leistungsdaten/spieler/406558/plus/0?saison=2021
    He fails the height test.  His twin at 178cm is 4 cms taller. 
    How can they be twins if they’re not the same height?
    I thought  that but he and Ryan were born on the same day  18th May 2002. Perhaps they have different mothers 😇
    Macronate said:
    Scoham said:
    Only got 7 games for Plymouth from Jan til the end of the season, which isn't that impressive
    Only missed eight games in total - Was primarily played in Midfield though, and used off the bench

    https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/steven-sessegnon/leistungsdaten/spieler/406558/plus/0?saison=2021
    He fails the height test.  His twin at 178cm is 4 cms taller. 
    How can they be twins if they’re not the same height?
    I thought  that but he and Ryan were born on the same day  18th May 2002. Perhaps they have different mothers 😇
    Arnie Schwarzenegger and Danny Devito are twins and they’re not the same height.
    Of course they're not the same height... Arnie is a robot
    You are living in the past, Arnie became warm liquid goo!
    Terminator 2 Thumbs Up GIFs  Tenor
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Seemingly two right backs in the door where does this leave Clare, unless we really are playing 3 at the back again.
    I think there are questions to be answered about all our players who played a significant number of games last season. 
  • Billy_Mix
    Billy_Mix Posts: 2,713
    Seemingly two right backs in the door where does this leave Clare, unless we really are playing 3 at the back again.
    Clare's not a right back and left Oxford cos he doesn't want to be one
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,432
    edited July 2022
    Would prefer Ryan, but Steven can play left or right, so makes sense from a utility P.O.V.
  • grumpyaddick
    grumpyaddick Posts: 6,597
    What sort of injury does he have?
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,322
    Billy_Mix said:
    Seemingly two right backs in the door where does this leave Clare, unless we really are playing 3 at the back again.
    Clare's not a right back and left Oxford cos he doesn't want to be one
    I don't know what he is. Jack of all trades master of none. Ok squad player at best imo. 
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,523
    Chris Gunter joins up with Jacko at AFCW
  • balham red
    balham red Posts: 1,289
    J BLOCK said:
    Billy_Mix said:
    Seemingly two right backs in the door where does this leave Clare, unless we really are playing 3 at the back again.
    Clare's not a right back and left Oxford cos he doesn't want to be one
    I don't know what he is. Jack of all trades master of none. Ok squad player at best imo. 
    He's rated by some as a defender because he can dribble out with zero pressure on the ball quite well.
  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,215
    Seemingly two right backs in the door where does this leave Clare, unless we really are playing 3 at the back again.
    As we saw on Saturday, it looks like we're thinking of the wider picture with regards to Recruitment - In the sense that we'll have the variation within the squad to play multiple positions, where half the starting eleven arent square pegs.
    Possibly yes, well I hope you’re right anyway.

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  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,215
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Seemingly two right backs in the door where does this leave Clare, unless we really are playing 3 at the back again.
    I think there are questions to be answered about all our players who played a significant number of games last season. 
    I think so, we have to be ruthless, heads will roll, I like the way we’re getting it done early. 
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,016
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Seemingly two right backs in the door where does this leave Clare, unless we really are playing 3 at the back again.
    I think there are questions to be answered about all our players who played a significant number of games last season. 
    I think so, we have to be ruthless, heads will roll, I like the way we’re getting it done early. 
    Clare I think will probably end up our utility man this season, he can cover a number of positions but unlikely to be first choice in any of them.
  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,215
    thenewbie said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Seemingly two right backs in the door where does this leave Clare, unless we really are playing 3 at the back again.
    I think there are questions to be answered about all our players who played a significant number of games last season. 
    I think so, we have to be ruthless, heads will roll, I like the way we’re getting it done early. 
    Clare I think will probably end up our utility man this season, he can cover a number of positions but unlikely to be first choice in any of them.
    Absolutely, be mad not to have those players in the squad.  
  • Hal1x
    Hal1x Posts: 4,265
    Hal1x said:
    Macronate said:
    Scoham said:
    Only got 7 games for Plymouth from Jan til the end of the season, which isn't that impressive
    Only missed eight games in total - Was primarily played in Midfield though, and used off the bench

    https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/steven-sessegnon/leistungsdaten/spieler/406558/plus/0?saison=2021
    He fails the height test.  His twin at 178cm is 4 cms taller. 
    How can they be twins if they’re not the same height?
    I thought  that but he and Ryan were born on the same day  18th May 2002. Perhaps they have different mothers 😇
    Macronate said:
    Scoham said:
    Only got 7 games for Plymouth from Jan til the end of the season, which isn't that impressive
    Only missed eight games in total - Was primarily played in Midfield though, and used off the bench

    https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/steven-sessegnon/leistungsdaten/spieler/406558/plus/0?saison=2021
    He fails the height test.  His twin at 178cm is 4 cms taller. 
    How can they be twins if they’re not the same height?
    I thought  that but he and Ryan were born on the same day  18th May 2002. Perhaps they have different mothers 😇
    Arnie Schwarzenegger and Danny Devito are twins and they’re not the same height.
    Of course they're not the same height... Arnie is a robot
    You are living in the past, Arnie became warm liquid goo!
    Terminator 2 Thumbs Up GIFs  Tenor
    told ya!
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,138
    Dizzle said:
    Could mean we only need one left back if Sessegnon can cover Egbo at RB and other left back. Cover for both full back positions in one go
    Would imagine he’s our starting left back.
  • Richard J
    Richard J Posts: 8,033
    Dizzle said:
    Could mean we only need one left back if Sessegnon can cover Egbo at RB and other left back. Cover for both full back positions in one go
    Would imagine he’s our starting left back.
    Not sure I like this Idea.Remember both Gunter and Matthews 'covered' as left backs.
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,322
    Chris Gunter joins up with Jacko at AFCW
    Grim grim viewing from Dons fans 
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,216
    I don’t really like the concept of signing one player to cover two positions without another backup as as soon as you get one injury you’re reliant on not getting any more. We’ve seen that we’re cursed with our injury list so asking Sessegnon to cover both full back spots won’t work unless we sign both of them. Utility is good but you still need the right number of players to cover. Hopefully we’ll still be looking for a proper wide left back, as a narrow player won’t work with Charlie Kirk at all. Cover that provides a different option is interesting though. Seems like a good potential signing 
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,832
    I don’t really like the concept of signing one player to cover two positions without another backup as as soon as you get one injury you’re reliant on not getting any more. We’ve seen that we’re cursed with our injury list so asking Sessegnon to cover both full back spots won’t work unless we sign both of them. Utility is good but you still need the right number of players to cover. Hopefully we’ll still be looking for a proper wide left back, as a narrow player won’t work with Charlie Kirk at all. Cover that provides a different option is interesting though. Seems like a good potential signing 
    Kirk won’t be here .  Otherwise I agree conceptually , although he may think that having 3 full backs plus Clare is enough 
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Toby Bower might pop up on the fringes later in the season.

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  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,138
    Richard J said:
    Dizzle said:
    Could mean we only need one left back if Sessegnon can cover Egbo at RB and other left back. Cover for both full back positions in one go
    Would imagine he’s our starting left back.
    Not sure I like this Idea.Remember both Gunter and Matthews 'covered' as left backs.
    Purely as there’s no one else and I assume Egbo is the right back. 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,432
    I don’t really like the concept of signing one player to cover two positions without another backup as as soon as you get one injury you’re reliant on not getting any more. We’ve seen that we’re cursed with our injury list so asking Sessegnon to cover both full back spots won’t work unless we sign both of them. Utility is good but you still need the right number of players to cover. Hopefully we’ll still be looking for a proper wide left back, as a narrow player won’t work with Charlie Kirk at all. Cover that provides a different option is interesting though. Seems like a good potential signing 
    Agree, I hope he’s here primarily as competition for Egbo and we’re aiming for at least two players per position (which there’s room for if we bring in a few u21 loans and have the standout academy players covering).

    In some positions that means signing two players, not everyone is coming in has to be automatic first choice.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,432
    Callum Johnson’s still following the club’s official Twitter account…
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,330
    Scoham said:
    Callum Johnson’s still following the club’s official Twitter account…
    Can someone sleuth though his following list and see if he follows any other League clubs?
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    sam3110 said:
    Scoham said:
    Callum Johnson’s still following the club’s official Twitter account…
    Can someone sleuth though his following list and see if he follows any other League clubs?
    Accrington, Fleetwood, us, not Pompey, Russel Slade and the manager of Spennymoor. 
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,216
    wmcf123 said:
    I don’t really like the concept of signing one player to cover two positions without another backup as as soon as you get one injury you’re reliant on not getting any more. We’ve seen that we’re cursed with our injury list so asking Sessegnon to cover both full back spots won’t work unless we sign both of them. Utility is good but you still need the right number of players to cover. Hopefully we’ll still be looking for a proper wide left back, as a narrow player won’t work with Charlie Kirk at all. Cover that provides a different option is interesting though. Seems like a good potential signing 
    Kirk won’t be here .  Otherwise I agree conceptually , although he may think that having 3 full backs plus Clare is enough 
    Won't he?
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Scoham said:
    I don’t really like the concept of signing one player to cover two positions without another backup as as soon as you get one injury you’re reliant on not getting any more. We’ve seen that we’re cursed with our injury list so asking Sessegnon to cover both full back spots won’t work unless we sign both of them. Utility is good but you still need the right number of players to cover. Hopefully we’ll still be looking for a proper wide left back, as a narrow player won’t work with Charlie Kirk at all. Cover that provides a different option is interesting though. Seems like a good potential signing 
    Agree, I hope he’s here primarily as competition for Egbo and we’re aiming for at least two players per position (which there’s room for if we bring in a few u21 loans and have the standout academy players covering).

    In some positions that means signing two players, not everyone is coming in has to be automatic first choice.
    It's a bit strange to use a loan (limited number), an over age player (limited number) and resources to bring in a player of that profile if he isn't going to play most games. 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,236
    Macronate said:
    Scoham said:
    Only got 7 games for Plymouth from Jan til the end of the season, which isn't that impressive
    Only missed eight games in total - Was primarily played in Midfield though, and used off the bench

    https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/steven-sessegnon/leistungsdaten/spieler/406558/plus/0?saison=2021
    He fails the height test.  His twin at 178cm is 4 cms taller. 
    How can they be twins if they’re not the same height?



    Looking at pictures of Steven and Ryan  they are fraternal twins not monozygotic twins from the same egg so it's like any other siblings there will be a slight difference in height, weight and visually.

    Their family originally came from Benin and they have another brother who plays non-League.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,432
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Scoham said:
    I don’t really like the concept of signing one player to cover two positions without another backup as as soon as you get one injury you’re reliant on not getting any more. We’ve seen that we’re cursed with our injury list so asking Sessegnon to cover both full back spots won’t work unless we sign both of them. Utility is good but you still need the right number of players to cover. Hopefully we’ll still be looking for a proper wide left back, as a narrow player won’t work with Charlie Kirk at all. Cover that provides a different option is interesting though. Seems like a good potential signing 
    Agree, I hope he’s here primarily as competition for Egbo and we’re aiming for at least two players per position (which there’s room for if we bring in a few u21 loans and have the standout academy players covering).

    In some positions that means signing two players, not everyone is coming in has to be automatic first choice.
    It's a bit strange to use a loan (limited number), an over age player (limited number) and resources to bring in a player of that profile if he isn't going to play most games. 
    Maybe there’s a plan or maybe they’re still making basic errors?… :smile:
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,334
    Scoham said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Scoham said:
    I don’t really like the concept of signing one player to cover two positions without another backup as as soon as you get one injury you’re reliant on not getting any more. We’ve seen that we’re cursed with our injury list so asking Sessegnon to cover both full back spots won’t work unless we sign both of them. Utility is good but you still need the right number of players to cover. Hopefully we’ll still be looking for a proper wide left back, as a narrow player won’t work with Charlie Kirk at all. Cover that provides a different option is interesting though. Seems like a good potential signing 
    Agree, I hope he’s here primarily as competition for Egbo and we’re aiming for at least two players per position (which there’s room for if we bring in a few u21 loans and have the standout academy players covering).

    In some positions that means signing two players, not everyone is coming in has to be automatic first choice.
    It's a bit strange to use a loan (limited number), an over age player (limited number) and resources to bring in a player of that profile if he isn't going to play most games. 
    Maybe there’s a plan or maybe they’re still making basic errors?… :smile:
    Or our manager has a plan for using 15 or 16 players in a match so he can continue with the press effectively.
    If his new contract is just the 12 month extension maybe we have a mind to sign him next year?