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Sex in Public. OK or Not OK?
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Just to add, we have a little kids playground on our street, that has parents and their toddlers or slightly older kids playing alone after school.
On that occasion an enthusiastic couple, were 'exercising', in full view and earshot of the playground. I'd heard them but went out shopping and when I came back 3-4 hours later they were still 'busy'.
I could hear the joys of spring even with the car windows closed. I called old bill. To say they responded like it was a jewellery heist is an understatement.
A police transit van pulled up alongside the car and they knocked on the window.
It was a full few minutes before a bloke got out of the back and then another bloke got out of the car.... followed eventually by two women and then the officer's had quite a few words, before they sent them away with their tails between somebody's legs. Pretty sure the officers had a few laughs down the station.3 -
Things have certainly changed, not had a J or drink in almost half a decade and Saturday nights are now spent chasing a crazy 3 year old around the garden.Carter said:So me and @Stu_of_Kunming are good pals, its fair to say I have a lot of fondness for the man as does anyone who has met him, he is prepared to let's say get in the trenches on a night out
Anyway he had come to help me DJ one new years eve, beer was drunk I think there was even a bit of a skirmish at one point with some locals, we went back to my bachelor pad and wound the night down as young men do, with weed and booze. Booze being Sainsbury own brand brandy. Fast forward not that long and my man is suffering, he is out in the garden bent double dry heaving having mixed some particularly potent green plant with a lot of booze so I did what I knew needed to be done. He had to rid his body of this demon, this poison.
So one of my fingers went up my arse to about the first knuckle then under Stueys nose. Hey presto, he was rid of the demon and we stood over its body disguised as am alarming amount of vomit and smight its ruin
The next day there were 3 cats feasting on the fetid pat which is something I'd never seen before, turns out it was because of the cod and chips he has lined his tummy with earlier on before coming out
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Compacting newly picked cotton, you've got 10 minutes to jump in a cotton full cage untill the harvester arrives again with a fresh load (same colour).
One jump lead to another, the field is in the middle of nowhere so not very public we thought, Untill interrupted by the cheers and claps... kibbutzniks...
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Morality is not about whether "adults" consent to something or not.There is a tonne of stuff adults consent to which is positively immoral and utterly wicked. Two people screwing in public is immoral. It should go without saying. As is an earlier poster who boasted of messing around with a married woman in his mini. I was reading only yesterday the plight of Daley Thompson's father who was found messing around in his car with a married woman... by her husband. Thompson's father was killed instantly. Justice was served. There are some things you just don't do. And messing around with a married person is absolutely one of them. So far we have fallen that this even has to be pointed out in this age is simply tragic.Stu_of_Kunming said:
Why does it become more serious? Windows were blacked out, there’s nothing to suggest she wasn’t a willing participant.ValleyOfTears said:...someone's sister/daughter/niece/mother!/wife!/friend and it becomes quite serious. Or the bloke is someone in good standing with the community and now is a filthy pervert. I do hope they are punished with the full force of the law.
Yeah, it’s a bit weird but it’s hardly crime of the century.3 -
AA: Mary Whitehouse, yes ~ my mistake.AddicksAddict said:
Twat. What’s a dog trainer got to do with it? Maybe you mean Whitehouse?ValleyOfTears said:Without wishing to be Barbara Woodhouse 2.0
This guy should be arrested as any other exhibitionist would. Anyone on here with daughters might like to consider them innocently walking home and confronted by this kind of stuff. Does that change the dynamic enough for you? These kind of threads bring out the double standards in us all. It is all a big laugh... Until we discover the identity of the woman is
Even more of a twat. Why couldn’t anyone’s sons be upset by seeing that?Even, even more of a twat. Why is the woman’s identity important but not the man’s? And who said the other person was a man anyway?
The rest of your post however is simply performing to the virtue-signalling woke gallery. Zzzzzzz. Yawn.0 -
Appalling. I hope you repent..SoundAsa£ said:Way back in my late teens I was parked up in my mini in the car park behind The Plaza Cinema in Catford with a young married lass ….it was a very cold night and the windows were well and truly steamed up.
Suddenly there was a loud bang on the window and a torch light was being flashed around.
We both froze and then I cleared a window a little to see a copper standing there.
Leaning over I rolled down the passenger side window a touch and the conversation went something along these lines.
”No need to ask what you’re up to, I’m going to charge you both with public indecency.”
With that the girl burst into tears, petrified of the possible consequences and blurted out that she was married and couldn’t ever live it down. There was a moment’s silence and then I couldn’t believe my ears.
“Ok I’ll let you off providing I’m next.”
I looked at the girl and we both realised there was nothing else for it.
I hurriedly got my trousers and pants back on and stepped out of the car. I was shaking like a leaf.
”Why are you trembling like that.”
”Well……..I’ve never fucked a copper before.”1 -
Morality is subjective almost in totality. Exceptions might be things like murder, but even then there is room for debate. For example, I think killing someone because your wife willingly slept with him is morally reprehensible, but you simply call it justice. Share your opinion by all means but don't claim morality is universal and uniform (and uniform to your viewpoint).ValleyOfTears said:
Morality is not about whether "adults" consent to something or not.There is a tonne of stuff adults consent to which is positively immoral and utterly wicked. Two people screwing in public is immoral. It should go without saying. As is an earlier poster who boasted of messing around with a married woman in his mini. I was reading only yesterday the plight of Daley Thompson's father who was found messing around in his car with a married woman... by her husband. Thompson's father was killed instantly. Justice was served. There are some things you just don't do. And messing around with a married person is absolutely one of them. So far we have fallen that this even has to be pointed out in this age is simply tragic.Stu_of_Kunming said:
Why does it become more serious? Windows were blacked out, there’s nothing to suggest she wasn’t a willing participant.ValleyOfTears said:...someone's sister/daughter/niece/mother!/wife!/friend and it becomes quite serious. Or the bloke is someone in good standing with the community and now is a filthy pervert. I do hope they are punished with the full force of the law.
Yeah, it’s a bit weird but it’s hardly crime of the century.
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I think it was Mother Teresa that said "if abortion is not wrong then NOTHING is wrong".KiwiValley said:
Morality is subjective almost in totality. Exceptions might be things like murder, but even then there is room for debate. For example, I think killing someone because your wife willingly slept with him is morally reprehensible, but you simply call it justice. Share your opinion by all means but don't claim morality is universal and uniform (and uniform to your viewpoint).ValleyOfTears said:
Morality is not about whether "adults" consent to something or not.There is a tonne of stuff adults consent to which is positively immoral and utterly wicked. Two people screwing in public is immoral. It should go without saying. As is an earlier poster who boasted of messing around with a married woman in his mini. I was reading only yesterday the plight of Daley Thompson's father who was found messing around in his car with a married woman... by her husband. Thompson's father was killed instantly. Justice was served. There are some things you just don't do. And messing around with a married person is absolutely one of them. So far we have fallen that this even has to be pointed out in this age is simply tragic.Stu_of_Kunming said:
Why does it become more serious? Windows were blacked out, there’s nothing to suggest she wasn’t a willing participant.ValleyOfTears said:...someone's sister/daughter/niece/mother!/wife!/friend and it becomes quite serious. Or the bloke is someone in good standing with the community and now is a filthy pervert. I do hope they are punished with the full force of the law.
Yeah, it’s a bit weird but it’s hardly crime of the century.
I would say that sleeping with a married person ....is morally reprehensible actually. I do hope Nick Hancock is reading!
I wouldn't say subjective. I think the 10 Commandments are clear enough for everyone. There are many warped individuals in this age who try and promote everything that denies the 10 commandments. Even if they are enshrined in law they are still wrong.0 -
Ok, you are a Wind Up Merchant. Didn't realise. Apologies everyone. I hesitate to conjure images of Mother Teresa on this saucy page but here's a bit of revisionist journalism on the cow. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/mother-teresa-s-canonization-controversy-clouds-nun-s-work-n641181ValleyOfTears said:
I think it was Mother Teresa that said "if abortion is not wrong then NOTHING is wrong".KiwiValley said:
Morality is subjective almost in totality. Exceptions might be things like murder, but even then there is room for debate. For example, I think killing someone because your wife willingly slept with him is morally reprehensible, but you simply call it justice. Share your opinion by all means but don't claim morality is universal and uniform (and uniform to your viewpoint).ValleyOfTears said:
Morality is not about whether "adults" consent to something or not.There is a tonne of stuff adults consent to which is positively immoral and utterly wicked. Two people screwing in public is immoral. It should go without saying. As is an earlier poster who boasted of messing around with a married woman in his mini. I was reading only yesterday the plight of Daley Thompson's father who was found messing around in his car with a married woman... by her husband. Thompson's father was killed instantly. Justice was served. There are some things you just don't do. And messing around with a married person is absolutely one of them. So far we have fallen that this even has to be pointed out in this age is simply tragic.Stu_of_Kunming said:
Why does it become more serious? Windows were blacked out, there’s nothing to suggest she wasn’t a willing participant.ValleyOfTears said:...someone's sister/daughter/niece/mother!/wife!/friend and it becomes quite serious. Or the bloke is someone in good standing with the community and now is a filthy pervert. I do hope they are punished with the full force of the law.
Yeah, it’s a bit weird but it’s hardly crime of the century.
I would say that sleeping with a married person ....is morally reprehensible actually. I do hope Nick Hancock is reading!
I wouldn't say subjective. I think the 10 Commandments are clear enough for everyone. There are many warped individuals in this age who try and promote everything that denies the 10 commandments. Even if they are enshrined in law they are still wrong.4 -
I agree, that why me and my partner never got married. How are you enjoying celibacy?ValleyOfTears said:
I think it was Mother Teresa that said "if abortion is not wrong then NOTHING is wrong".KiwiValley said:
Morality is subjective almost in totality. Exceptions might be things like murder, but even then there is room for debate. For example, I think killing someone because your wife willingly slept with him is morally reprehensible, but you simply call it justice. Share your opinion by all means but don't claim morality is universal and uniform (and uniform to your viewpoint).ValleyOfTears said:
Morality is not about whether "adults" consent to something or not.There is a tonne of stuff adults consent to which is positively immoral and utterly wicked. Two people screwing in public is immoral. It should go without saying. As is an earlier poster who boasted of messing around with a married woman in his mini. I was reading only yesterday the plight of Daley Thompson's father who was found messing around in his car with a married woman... by her husband. Thompson's father was killed instantly. Justice was served. There are some things you just don't do. And messing around with a married person is absolutely one of them. So far we have fallen that this even has to be pointed out in this age is simply tragic.Stu_of_Kunming said:
Why does it become more serious? Windows were blacked out, there’s nothing to suggest she wasn’t a willing participant.ValleyOfTears said:...someone's sister/daughter/niece/mother!/wife!/friend and it becomes quite serious. Or the bloke is someone in good standing with the community and now is a filthy pervert. I do hope they are punished with the full force of the law.
Yeah, it’s a bit weird but it’s hardly crime of the century.
I would say that sleeping with a married person ....is morally reprehensible actually. I do hope Nick Hancock is reading!
I wouldn't say subjective. I think the 10 Commandments are clear enough for everyone. There are many warped individuals in this age who try and promote everything that denies the 10 commandments. Even if they are enshrined in law they are still wrong.1 - Sponsored links:
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Loon alert.ValleyOfTears said:
I think it was Mother Teresa that said "if abortion is not wrong then NOTHING is wrong".KiwiValley said:
Morality is subjective almost in totality. Exceptions might be things like murder, but even then there is room for debate. For example, I think killing someone because your wife willingly slept with him is morally reprehensible, but you simply call it justice. Share your opinion by all means but don't claim morality is universal and uniform (and uniform to your viewpoint).ValleyOfTears said:
Morality is not about whether "adults" consent to something or not.There is a tonne of stuff adults consent to which is positively immoral and utterly wicked. Two people screwing in public is immoral. It should go without saying. As is an earlier poster who boasted of messing around with a married woman in his mini. I was reading only yesterday the plight of Daley Thompson's father who was found messing around in his car with a married woman... by her husband. Thompson's father was killed instantly. Justice was served. There are some things you just don't do. And messing around with a married person is absolutely one of them. So far we have fallen that this even has to be pointed out in this age is simply tragic.Stu_of_Kunming said:
Why does it become more serious? Windows were blacked out, there’s nothing to suggest she wasn’t a willing participant.ValleyOfTears said:...someone's sister/daughter/niece/mother!/wife!/friend and it becomes quite serious. Or the bloke is someone in good standing with the community and now is a filthy pervert. I do hope they are punished with the full force of the law.
Yeah, it’s a bit weird but it’s hardly crime of the century.
I would say that sleeping with a married person ....is morally reprehensible actually. I do hope Nick Hancock is reading!
I wouldn't say subjective. I think the 10 Commandments are clear enough for everyone. There are many warped individuals in this age who try and promote everything that denies the 10 commandments. Even if they are enshrined in law they are still wrong.8 -
If abortion is universally wrong you might wish to help us understand why the book of Numbers (OT) advocates a practice that means the Levitical priest gives a potion to a woman with child which purports to a) determine wether the child is the fathers and b) if not, the potion causes the mother to miscarry ?ValleyOfTears said:
I think it was Mother Teresa that said "if abortion is not wrong then NOTHING is wrong".KiwiValley said:
Morality is subjective almost in totality. Exceptions might be things like murder, but even then there is room for debate. For example, I think killing someone because your wife willingly slept with him is morally reprehensible, but you simply call it justice. Share your opinion by all means but don't claim morality is universal and uniform (and uniform to your viewpoint).ValleyOfTears said:
Morality is not about whether "adults" consent to something or not.There is a tonne of stuff adults consent to which is positively immoral and utterly wicked. Two people screwing in public is immoral. It should go without saying. As is an earlier poster who boasted of messing around with a married woman in his mini. I was reading only yesterday the plight of Daley Thompson's father who was found messing around in his car with a married woman... by her husband. Thompson's father was killed instantly. Justice was served. There are some things you just don't do. And messing around with a married person is absolutely one of them. So far we have fallen that this even has to be pointed out in this age is simply tragic.Stu_of_Kunming said:
Why does it become more serious? Windows were blacked out, there’s nothing to suggest she wasn’t a willing participant.ValleyOfTears said:...someone's sister/daughter/niece/mother!/wife!/friend and it becomes quite serious. Or the bloke is someone in good standing with the community and now is a filthy pervert. I do hope they are punished with the full force of the law.
Yeah, it’s a bit weird but it’s hardly crime of the century.
I would say that sleeping with a married person ....is morally reprehensible actually. I do hope Nick Hancock is reading!
I wouldn't say subjective. I think the 10 Commandments are clear enough for everyone. There are many warped individuals in this age who try and promote everything that denies the 10 commandments. Even if they are enshrined in law they are still wrong.0 -
Many moons ago 6 lads 2 girls aged 18 from Gloucester set off on the train to watch Tranmere v Charlton. On the way back we asked a train guard what platform for the train to Gloucester he pointed over to a platform so we all jumped on the train. Asked a passenger what time does the train arrive back to Gloucester he said this train goes to Derby. Oh fxxk we are in trouble now. Arrives at Derby goes to the guard office to explain that there guard put us on the wrong train and now there no trains back. So they said they would put us all up in a hotel as it was there guards fault. All excited thinking this was going to fun. But no because we all brought kids tickets we couldn't stay but British rail paid for 2 taxis back. Me my mate embro and 2 girls in the taxi. We'll we decided to have a £5 bet who could go far with the girl. I will never forget it. There was a big boxing match on. So we asked the taxi driver to turn it up. My mate was having a proper rummage around downstairs.
while looking at me smiling knowing the girl I'm with is having none of it. Next thing he's giving her the best 29 seconds of her life and that includes the cigarette. Even the Taxi driver watching now. It was just bizarre. And being the best man at his wedding I decided was the right time to give him the £5 that he won5 -
So according to what you said about Daley Thompson’s dad, I’m fair game to being killed for sleeping with my then girlfriend, now wife, after she split from her husband but before she was divorced?ValleyOfTears said:
Morality is not about whether "adults" consent to something or not.There is a tonne of stuff adults consent to which is positively immoral and utterly wicked. Two people screwing in public is immoral. It should go without saying. As is an earlier poster who boasted of messing around with a married woman in his mini. I was reading only yesterday the plight of Daley Thompson's father who was found messing around in his car with a married woman... by her husband. Thompson's father was killed instantly. Justice was served. There are some things you just don't do. And messing around with a married person is absolutely one of them. So far we have fallen that this even has to be pointed out in this age is simply tragic.Stu_of_Kunming said:
Why does it become more serious? Windows were blacked out, there’s nothing to suggest she wasn’t a willing participant.ValleyOfTears said:...someone's sister/daughter/niece/mother!/wife!/friend and it becomes quite serious. Or the bloke is someone in good standing with the community and now is a filthy pervert. I do hope they are punished with the full force of the law.
Yeah, it’s a bit weird but it’s hardly crime of the century.
Interesting interpretation of the bible and, as with so many things in the bible, completely out of date!1 -
Why dont you just do one? this thread is for a bit of a laugh and everyone is entering into the spirit of it (except you).ValleyOfTears said:
Morality is not about whether "adults" consent to something or not.There is a tonne of stuff adults consent to which is positively immoral and utterly wicked. Two people screwing in public is immoral. It should go without saying. As is an earlier poster who boasted of messing around with a married woman in his mini. I was reading only yesterday the plight of Daley Thompson's father who was found messing around in his car with a married woman... by her husband. Thompson's father was killed instantly. Justice was served. There are some things you just don't do. And messing around with a married person is absolutely one of them. So far we have fallen that this even has to be pointed out in this age is simply tragic.Stu_of_Kunming said:
Why does it become more serious? Windows were blacked out, there’s nothing to suggest she wasn’t a willing participant.ValleyOfTears said:...someone's sister/daughter/niece/mother!/wife!/friend and it becomes quite serious. Or the bloke is someone in good standing with the community and now is a filthy pervert. I do hope they are punished with the full force of the law.
Yeah, it’s a bit weird but it’s hardly crime of the century.
We all know your views because you've spouted them so much on here. It was predictable you'd hate this thread so how about not opening it rather than coming on here spouting your 1400's views on morality, women and abortion all over again. No one wants to hear your fundamentalism, you aren't going to convert anyone here. Just do one.
I find its generally insecure weak men who spout this kind of shit because they are wishing back to a time when men held all the power purely because of their gender rather than having to actually earn it.9 -
This thread would not be complete without Frankie Boyle's Dogging Monologue.
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Ffs - bringing abortion into another thread where it isn't neededValleyOfTears said:
I think it was Mother Teresa that said "if abortion is not wrong then NOTHING is wrong".KiwiValley said:
Morality is subjective almost in totality. Exceptions might be things like murder, but even then there is room for debate. For example, I think killing someone because your wife willingly slept with him is morally reprehensible, but you simply call it justice. Share your opinion by all means but don't claim morality is universal and uniform (and uniform to your viewpoint).ValleyOfTears said:
Morality is not about whether "adults" consent to something or not.There is a tonne of stuff adults consent to which is positively immoral and utterly wicked. Two people screwing in public is immoral. It should go without saying. As is an earlier poster who boasted of messing around with a married woman in his mini. I was reading only yesterday the plight of Daley Thompson's father who was found messing around in his car with a married woman... by her husband. Thompson's father was killed instantly. Justice was served. There are some things you just don't do. And messing around with a married person is absolutely one of them. So far we have fallen that this even has to be pointed out in this age is simply tragic.Stu_of_Kunming said:
Why does it become more serious? Windows were blacked out, there’s nothing to suggest she wasn’t a willing participant.ValleyOfTears said:...someone's sister/daughter/niece/mother!/wife!/friend and it becomes quite serious. Or the bloke is someone in good standing with the community and now is a filthy pervert. I do hope they are punished with the full force of the law.
Yeah, it’s a bit weird but it’s hardly crime of the century.
I would say that sleeping with a married person ....is morally reprehensible actually. I do hope Nick Hancock is reading!
I wouldn't say subjective. I think the 10 Commandments are clear enough for everyone. There are many warped individuals in this age who try and promote everything that denies the 10 commandments. Even if they are enshrined in law they are still wrong.2 -
Frankie Boyle is fucking hilarious!
Just thought that needed to be said.0 -
Some fucking chance of that…..🤭ValleyOfTears said:
Appalling. I hope you repent..SoundAsa£ said:Way back in my late teens I was parked up in my mini in the car park behind The Plaza Cinema in Catford with a young married lass ….it was a very cold night and the windows were well and truly steamed up.
Suddenly there was a loud bang on the window and a torch light was being flashed around.
We both froze and then I cleared a window a little to see a copper standing there.
Leaning over I rolled down the passenger side window a touch and the conversation went something along these lines.
”No need to ask what you’re up to, I’m going to charge you both with public indecency.”
With that the girl burst into tears, petrified of the possible consequences and blurted out that she was married and couldn’t ever live it down. There was a moment’s silence and then I couldn’t believe my ears.
“Ok I’ll let you off providing I’m next.”
I looked at the girl and we both realised there was nothing else for it.
I hurriedly got my trousers and pants back on and stepped out of the car. I was shaking like a leaf.
”Why are you trembling like that.”
”Well……..I’ve never fucked a copper before.”3 -
Daley Thompson's father was not messing around with a "separated awaiting finalisation of divorce" woman . He was screwing a married woman in his car.Stuart_the_Red said:
So according to what you said about Daley Thompson’s dad, I’m fair game to being killed for sleeping with my then girlfriend, now wife, after she split from her husband but before she was divorced?ValleyOfTears said:
Morality is not about whether "adults" consent to something or not.There is a tonne of stuff adults consent to which is positively immoral and utterly wicked. Two people screwing in public is immoral. It should go without saying. As is an earlier poster who boasted of messing around with a married woman in his mini. I was reading only yesterday the plight of Daley Thompson's father who was found messing around in his car with a married woman... by her husband. Thompson's father was killed instantly. Justice was served. There are some things you just don't do. And messing around with a married person is absolutely one of them. So far we have fallen that this even has to be pointed out in this age is simply tragic.Stu_of_Kunming said:
Why does it become more serious? Windows were blacked out, there’s nothing to suggest she wasn’t a willing participant.ValleyOfTears said:...someone's sister/daughter/niece/mother!/wife!/friend and it becomes quite serious. Or the bloke is someone in good standing with the community and now is a filthy pervert. I do hope they are punished with the full force of the law.
Yeah, it’s a bit weird but it’s hardly crime of the century.
Interesting interpretation of the bible and, as with so many things in the bible, completely out of date!
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I agree that there ARE men who think just by virtue of being male ~ they deserve a certain sense of power and authority in life. I don't quite see how this means that a man who is merely sharing Christian principles of morality, he is somehow weak and insecure or looking backwards. Quite the opposite in fact. It is the Christian that fully lives in the present, while also not denying the firm foundations of the Judeo-Christian past.cantersaddick said:
Why dont you just do one? this thread is for a bit of a laugh and everyone is entering into the spirit of it (except you).ValleyOfTears said:
Morality is not about whether "adults" consent to something or not.There is a tonne of stuff adults consent to which is positively immoral and utterly wicked. Two people screwing in public is immoral. It should go without saying. As is an earlier poster who boasted of messing around with a married woman in his mini. I was reading only yesterday the plight of Daley Thompson's father who was found messing around in his car with a married woman... by her husband. Thompson's father was killed instantly. Justice was served. There are some things you just don't do. And messing around with a married person is absolutely one of them. So far we have fallen that this even has to be pointed out in this age is simply tragic.Stu_of_Kunming said:
Why does it become more serious? Windows were blacked out, there’s nothing to suggest she wasn’t a willing participant.ValleyOfTears said:...someone's sister/daughter/niece/mother!/wife!/friend and it becomes quite serious. Or the bloke is someone in good standing with the community and now is a filthy pervert. I do hope they are punished with the full force of the law.
Yeah, it’s a bit weird but it’s hardly crime of the century.
We all know your views because you've spouted them so much on here. It was predictable you'd hate this thread so how about not opening it rather than coming on here spouting your 1400's views on morality, women and abortion all over again. No one wants to hear your fundamentalism, you aren't going to convert anyone here. Just do one.
I find its generally insecure weak men who spout this kind of shit because they are wishing back to a time when men held all the power purely because of their gender rather than having to actually earn it.0 -
Actually it remained "on topic". The morality of individuals having sexual intercourse in public is what is being promoted or challenged here.Todds_right_hook said:
Ffs - bringing abortion into another thread where it isn't neededValleyOfTears said:
I think it was Mother Teresa that said "if abortion is not wrong then NOTHING is wrong".KiwiValley said:
Morality is subjective almost in totality. Exceptions might be things like murder, but even then there is room for debate. For example, I think killing someone because your wife willingly slept with him is morally reprehensible, but you simply call it justice. Share your opinion by all means but don't claim morality is universal and uniform (and uniform to your viewpoint).ValleyOfTears said:
Morality is not about whether "adults" consent to something or not.There is a tonne of stuff adults consent to which is positively immoral and utterly wicked. Two people screwing in public is immoral. It should go without saying. As is an earlier poster who boasted of messing around with a married woman in his mini. I was reading only yesterday the plight of Daley Thompson's father who was found messing around in his car with a married woman... by her husband. Thompson's father was killed instantly. Justice was served. There are some things you just don't do. And messing around with a married person is absolutely one of them. So far we have fallen that this even has to be pointed out in this age is simply tragic.Stu_of_Kunming said:
Why does it become more serious? Windows were blacked out, there’s nothing to suggest she wasn’t a willing participant.ValleyOfTears said:...someone's sister/daughter/niece/mother!/wife!/friend and it becomes quite serious. Or the bloke is someone in good standing with the community and now is a filthy pervert. I do hope they are punished with the full force of the law.
Yeah, it’s a bit weird but it’s hardly crime of the century.
I would say that sleeping with a married person ....is morally reprehensible actually. I do hope Nick Hancock is reading!
I wouldn't say subjective. I think the 10 Commandments are clear enough for everyone. There are many warped individuals in this age who try and promote everything that denies the 10 commandments. Even if they are enshrined in law they are still wrong.0 -
If you could share the citation I'd be keen to read this.holyjo said:
If abortion is universally wrong you might wish to help us understand why the book of Numbers (OT) advocates a practice that means the Levitical priest gives a potion to a woman with child which purports to a) determine wether the child is the fathers and b) if not, the potion causes the mother to miscarry ?ValleyOfTears said:
I think it was Mother Teresa that said "if abortion is not wrong then NOTHING is wrong".KiwiValley said:
Morality is subjective almost in totality. Exceptions might be things like murder, but even then there is room for debate. For example, I think killing someone because your wife willingly slept with him is morally reprehensible, but you simply call it justice. Share your opinion by all means but don't claim morality is universal and uniform (and uniform to your viewpoint).ValleyOfTears said:
Morality is not about whether "adults" consent to something or not.There is a tonne of stuff adults consent to which is positively immoral and utterly wicked. Two people screwing in public is immoral. It should go without saying. As is an earlier poster who boasted of messing around with a married woman in his mini. I was reading only yesterday the plight of Daley Thompson's father who was found messing around in his car with a married woman... by her husband. Thompson's father was killed instantly. Justice was served. There are some things you just don't do. And messing around with a married person is absolutely one of them. So far we have fallen that this even has to be pointed out in this age is simply tragic.Stu_of_Kunming said:
Why does it become more serious? Windows were blacked out, there’s nothing to suggest she wasn’t a willing participant.ValleyOfTears said:...someone's sister/daughter/niece/mother!/wife!/friend and it becomes quite serious. Or the bloke is someone in good standing with the community and now is a filthy pervert. I do hope they are punished with the full force of the law.
Yeah, it’s a bit weird but it’s hardly crime of the century.
I would say that sleeping with a married person ....is morally reprehensible actually. I do hope Nick Hancock is reading!
I wouldn't say subjective. I think the 10 Commandments are clear enough for everyone. There are many warped individuals in this age who try and promote everything that denies the 10 commandments. Even if they are enshrined in law they are still wrong.
I am mindful of the dangers however of "taking the text out of the context to create a pretext" which is what many people do who treat sacred scripture as a sort of tombola game. Or Dipping in and out and forming a rather peculiar offbeam theology.0 -
Bye VOT. Sad to see you go #Not2
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KiwiValley said:
Ok, you are a Wind Up Merchant. Didn't realise. Apologies everyone. I hesitate to conjure images of Mother Teresa on this saucy page but here's a bit of revisionist journalism on the cow. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/mother-teresa-s-canonization-controversy-clouds-nun-s-work-n641181ValleyOfTears said:
I think it was Mother Teresa that said "if abortion is not wrong then NOTHING is wrong".KiwiValley said:
Morality is subjective almost in totality. Exceptions might be things like murder, but even then there is room for debate. For example, I think killing someone because your wife willingly slept with him is morally reprehensible, but you simply call it justice. Share your opinion by all means but don't claim morality is universal and uniform (and uniform to your viewpoint).ValleyOfTears said:
Morality is not about whether "adults" consent to something or not.There is a tonne of stuff adults consent to which is positively immoral and utterly wicked. Two people screwing in public is immoral. It should go without saying. As is an earlier poster who boasted of messing around with a married woman in his mini. I was reading only yesterday the plight of Daley Thompson's father who was found messing around in his car with a married woman... by her husband. Thompson's father was killed instantly. Justice was served. There are some things you just don't do. And messing around with a married person is absolutely one of them. So far we have fallen that this even has to be pointed out in this age is simply tragic.Stu_of_Kunming said:
Why does it become more serious? Windows were blacked out, there’s nothing to suggest she wasn’t a willing participant.ValleyOfTears said:...someone's sister/daughter/niece/mother!/wife!/friend and it becomes quite serious. Or the bloke is someone in good standing with the community and now is a filthy pervert. I do hope they are punished with the full force of the law.
Yeah, it’s a bit weird but it’s hardly crime of the century.
I would say that sleeping with a married person ....is morally reprehensible actually. I do hope Nick Hancock is reading!
I wouldn't say subjective. I think the 10 Commandments are clear enough for everyone. There are many warped individuals in this age who try and promote everything that denies the 10 commandments. Even if they are enshrined in law they are still wrong.
It really is scraping the barrel. You have the option of reading of the life of a recent saint (all saints have a past and all sinners have a future!) With 80 years of evidence to go by and the fruits of that work that continues around the world today.
But no, some forgettable desperate hack called Matt Bradley prints a poorly written hitpiece on M Teresa (anything to get noticed!) And all those who feed off anything that has no worth descend on the story and fire it out everywhere they can as if it was a canonical text.
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Many years ago I was playing for my old cricket team - by this stage we'd been kicked out of our home ground by the football section so on Sundays we were a travelling team.
On one occasion we were playing at Greenwich Park - no idea who it was against but it was a warm and sunny day with plenty of people enjoying themselves in the park.
We batted first (badly, probably) and had the glorious sight of seeing Terry Waite, recently released from captivity in Beirut, out walking his dogs and stopping to watch our match (as I commented to a colleague: "Why is he watching us bat? You'd have thought he's suffered enough in recent years").
After the innings break we were getting ready to resume the match. I was going to be bowling the first over and as were setting the field on the leg side we spotted something interesting. A couple had been lying on the grass next to each other not far beyond the boundary but now she had got up and was kneeling astride him, gently bobbing up and down. I looked at my captain, he looked at me, and both nodded. I then went and had a word with the opening batsman:
"Hiya. Have a look over at the mid-wicket boundary ... what can you see? What do you reckon's going on?"
After he'd concurred with our initial analysis of the situation I then said:
"If I bowl a couple of leg-stump half-volleys do you fancy trying to hit them?"
There are times when you don't mind being carted for boundaries over mid-wicket.
The couple soon moved
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Has to be a no, unless it's me and then it's worth a watch.0
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Speaking of Terry Waite…..do you know what his first words were when he was released?Briston_Addick said:Many years ago I was playing for my old cricket team - by this stage we'd been kicked out of our home ground by the football section so on Sundays we were a travelling team.
On one occasion we were playing at Greenwich Park - no idea who it was against but it was a warm and sunny day with plenty of people enjoying themselves in the park.
We batted first (badly, probably) and had the glorious sight of seeing Terry Waite, recently released from captivity in Beirut, out walking his dogs and stopping to watch our match (as I commented to a colleague: "Why is he watching us bat? You'd have thought he's suffered enough in recent years").
After the innings break we were getting ready to resume the match. I was going to be bowling the first over and as were setting the field on the leg side we spotted something interesting. A couple had been lying on the grass next to each other not far beyond the boundary but now she had got up and was kneeling astride him, gently bobbing up and down. I looked at my captain, he looked at me, and both nodded. I then went and had a word with the opening batsman:
"Hiya. Have a look over at the mid-wicket boundary ... what can you see? What do you reckon's going on?"
After he'd concurred with our initial analysis of the situation I then said:
"If I bowl a couple of leg-stump half-volleys do you fancy trying to hit them?"
There are times when you don't mind being carted for boundaries over mid-wicket.
The couple soon moved
“Has Leaburn scored yet”?1 -
Ooh, that's harsh.SoundAsa£ said:
Speaking of Terry Waite…..do you know what his first words were when he was released?Briston_Addick said:Many years ago I was playing for my old cricket team - by this stage we'd been kicked out of our home ground by the football section so on Sundays we were a travelling team.
On one occasion we were playing at Greenwich Park - no idea who it was against but it was a warm and sunny day with plenty of people enjoying themselves in the park.
We batted first (badly, probably) and had the glorious sight of seeing Terry Waite, recently released from captivity in Beirut, out walking his dogs and stopping to watch our match (as I commented to a colleague: "Why is he watching us bat? You'd have thought he's suffered enough in recent years").
After the innings break we were getting ready to resume the match. I was going to be bowling the first over and as were setting the field on the leg side we spotted something interesting. A couple had been lying on the grass next to each other not far beyond the boundary but now she had got up and was kneeling astride him, gently bobbing up and down. I looked at my captain, he looked at me, and both nodded. I then went and had a word with the opening batsman:
"Hiya. Have a look over at the mid-wicket boundary ... what can you see? What do you reckon's going on?"
After he'd concurred with our initial analysis of the situation I then said:
"If I bowl a couple of leg-stump half-volleys do you fancy trying to hit them?"
There are times when you don't mind being carted for boundaries over mid-wicket.
The couple soon moved
“Has Leaburn scored yet”?0
https://youtu.be/Eqk1a-V7aWw
