Summer 2022 transfer rumours (Gilbey loan confirmed p513, a signing falls through last minute p541)

ForeverAddickted said:

Chunes said:

Wow that PP video couldn't be any more spot on could it...

One of the best they've done

Maybe a bit harsh to focus on Liverpool, when they could have covered fans from most Premier League sides

I think it’s a good choice as they came second, so it makes the point well. 

DOUCHER said:

cabbles said:

Cafc43v3r said:

cabbles said:

I too think JFC is above League 2, but if he does end up at Orient I think it highlights how massively inflated people’s opinions of him are for us.  

Of course, we can argue circumstances at his stage of life re: moving home etc, but to end up at Orient would be a pretty sizeable statement as to how overhyped he’s been 

Obviously everyone is entitled to opinions on players it would be pretty boring if everyone always agreed but personally I am gutted that he won't get the chance to prove his fitness here.  He isn't without blame to why though.

I do find it strange though that people are writing him off without actually seeing him play again, yet people were prepared to have a melt down when it was suggested Dobson might not start last week.

Remember they are the last two POTY and actually JFC got a higher statbank mark, in a better team than Dobson did.

I’ve just never got the hype and I do appreciate I’m in the minority as the general consensus is that most people I would imagine would like to see him play.  

As you say it’s just different opinions.  I certainly think he’s an okay player for this level, but nothing more.  I might be judging him too harshly given the 2 knee injuries, but I just never took to him, even before the injuries.   

i agree - jfc was neat and tidy, nothing more 

Versatile , could pass through the lines , could score goals if playing further forward .  

ShootersHillGuru said:

I really think this thread needs to get past its obsession with JFC. It’s pretty clear he’s not in Garners plans and the club are trying to shift him out. He’ll be gone in a few weeks thank god and we can talk about something more relevant. 

We are going to sell our best player and bring in a freebee from league 2? Wait a moment while I go on twitter and tag Thomas and have a complete meltdown. 

Henry Irving said:

https://twitter.com/paddypower/status/1555554219591172097?s=20&t=gCwjpaqhELXxjqMe2PmsZw

Ring any bells?

A great video, but not that relevant to us really

Chunes said:

killerandflash said:

Henry Irving said:

https://twitter.com/paddypower/status/1555554219591172097?s=20&t=gCwjpaqhELXxjqMe2PmsZw

Ring any bells?

A great video, but not that relevant to us really

I don't know... Seems like some of our fanbase have forgotten about trying to enjoy the football or the start of a new season and instead spend all day moaning about the owner/transfers. I thought it was just us but I guess it's happening at every club.

Little bit easier to enjoy the football when you’re one of the best teams in the world. Whilst just down the road Charlton are conceding a 96th min equaliser at Accrington Stanley…

Stu_of_Kunming said:

EugenesAxe said:

ShootersHillGuru said:

Perhaps TS is fur coat and no knickers

😉

20m worth of knickers. 

But it's the same old thong

wmcf123 said:

DOUCHER said:

cabbles said:

Cafc43v3r said:

cabbles said:

I too think JFC is above League 2, but if he does end up at Orient I think it highlights how massively inflated people’s opinions of him are for us.  

Of course, we can argue circumstances at his stage of life re: moving home etc, but to end up at Orient would be a pretty sizeable statement as to how overhyped he’s been 

Obviously everyone is entitled to opinions on players it would be pretty boring if everyone always agreed but personally I am gutted that he won't get the chance to prove his fitness here.  He isn't without blame to why though.

I do find it strange though that people are writing him off without actually seeing him play again, yet people were prepared to have a melt down when it was suggested Dobson might not start last week.

Remember they are the last two POTY and actually JFC got a higher statbank mark, in a better team than Dobson did.

I’ve just never got the hype and I do appreciate I’m in the minority as the general consensus is that most people I would imagine would like to see him play.  

As you say it’s just different opinions.  I certainly think he’s an okay player for this level, but nothing more.  I might be judging him too harshly given the 2 knee injuries, but I just never took to him, even before the injuries.   

i agree - jfc was neat and tidy, nothing more 

Versatile , could pass through the lines , could score goals if playing further forward .  

It always amazes me how some people don't put enough value on this when it is fundamental to the game.

cafcfan1990 said:

Chunes said:

killerandflash said:

Henry Irving said:

https://twitter.com/paddypower/status/1555554219591172097?s=20&t=gCwjpaqhELXxjqMe2PmsZw

Ring any bells?

A great video, but not that relevant to us really

I don't know... Seems like some of our fanbase have forgotten about trying to enjoy the football or the start of a new season and instead spend all day moaning about the owner/transfers. I thought it was just us but I guess it's happening at every club.

Little bit easier to enjoy the football when you’re one of the best teams in the world. Whilst just down the road Charlton are conceding a 96th min equaliser at Accrington Stanley…

"All I want is an owner who cares so I can just go back to watching the football."

Responses are entirely predictable. 🤣

”Great video but I’m gonna keep moaning anyway”

Callumcafc said:

Responses are entirely predictable. 🤣

”Great video but I’m gonna keep moaning anyway”

Almost as predictable as someone like you using a video about Liverpool to dig out Charlton fans 

Cafc43v3r said:

Chunes said:

cafcfan1990 said:

Chunes said:

killerandflash said:

Henry Irving said:

https://twitter.com/paddypower/status/1555554219591172097?s=20&t=gCwjpaqhELXxjqMe2PmsZw

Ring any bells?

A great video, but not that relevant to us really

I don't know... Seems like some of our fanbase have forgotten about trying to enjoy the football or the start of a new season and instead spend all day moaning about the owner/transfers. I thought it was just us but I guess it's happening at every club.

Little bit easier to enjoy the football when you’re one of the best teams in the world. Whilst just down the road Charlton are conceding a 96th min equaliser at Accrington Stanley…

"All I want is an owner who cares so I can just go back to watching the football."

I think the response would have been completely different if the narrative had been:

"The whole club is fucked, from top to bottom, it's going to take 2 maybe 3 years to fix.  We won't always get it right but it won't be through lack of trying.  It wont be easy but we will get there".

I genuinely think last season was a massive kick in the bollocks for everyone, including TS.  I honestly believe he thought we had a "title winning" squad.  

It's strange, though. I flicked through some previous summer transfer threads from the Roland/ESI days, back when we couldn't even field a complete team and didn't know when or what quality of player we'd be signing, and it was still less miserable than it is now. 

I think there was an element of acceptance back then? Everyone gave the management team 100% support in the knowledge that they were doing their best in difficult circumstances, and there was nothing we could do about it. We just hoped for better days. 

Now we do have an owner who cares, and it hasn't yet resulted in an improved league performance, but the mood is even more miserable than when it all felt hopeless. The 100% support mantra is gone as well.

Chunes said:

Cafc43v3r said:

Chunes said:

cafcfan1990 said:

Chunes said:

killerandflash said:

Henry Irving said:

https://twitter.com/paddypower/status/1555554219591172097?s=20&t=gCwjpaqhELXxjqMe2PmsZw

Ring any bells?

A great video, but not that relevant to us really

I don't know... Seems like some of our fanbase have forgotten about trying to enjoy the football or the start of a new season and instead spend all day moaning about the owner/transfers. I thought it was just us but I guess it's happening at every club.

Little bit easier to enjoy the football when you’re one of the best teams in the world. Whilst just down the road Charlton are conceding a 96th min equaliser at Accrington Stanley…

"All I want is an owner who cares so I can just go back to watching the football."

I think the response would have been completely different if the narrative had been:

"The whole club is fucked, from top to bottom, it's going to take 2 maybe 3 years to fix.  We won't always get it right but it won't be through lack of trying.  It wont be easy but we will get there".

I genuinely think last season was a massive kick in the bollocks for everyone, including TS.  I honestly believe he thought we had a "title winning" squad.  

It's strange, though. I flicked through some previous summer transfer threads from the Roland/ESI days, back when we couldn't even field a complete team and didn't know when or what quality of player we'd be signing, and it was still less miserable than it is now. 

I think there was an element of acceptance back then? Everyone gave the management team 100% support in the knowledge that they were doing their best in difficult circumstances, and there was nothing we could do about it. We just hoped for better days. 

Now we do have an owner who cares, and it hasn't yet resulted in an improved league performance, but the mood is even more miserable than when it all felt hopeless. The 100% support mantra is gone as well.

I think the dynamic is much more merky and shades of grey now, especially if you contrast it with 18/19.

Then it was us, Bowyer and Gallen against Roland, little Thomas and the world.  The same was true with ESI.

Once Thomas was the cast as the Knight in shining armour Bowyer and to a lesser extent Gallen started getting stick.  If there had been a crowd it would have massively turned on Bowyer and the players.  Not on Thomas.

Last summers blame was very firmly laid at the door of Roddy and Adkins, rightly or wrongly.  Very very quickly.  The crowd turned after the 2nd home game of the season.  I have never seen that before, especially when you consider how well we finished the previous season.

It flipped back as soon as Jackson got the job, it helped that we started winning as well.  

Now we can't blame anyone else other than the incumbents.  All the has beens and never wases have been released.

I admit the above is a summery of the mood, not everyone's, including mine, opinions at the time. 

Personally now feel the events between May 2021 and May 2022 was a massively missed opportunity.  That was caused by reasons other than lack of investment or ambition.  What really worries me, being honest, is I don't think "they" know what they did wrong, or even think they did anything wrong at all.

I am not angry, I am disappointed.  Sometimes that's worse.

Cafc43v3r said:

Chunes said:

cafcfan1990 said:

Chunes said:

killerandflash said:

Henry Irving said:

https://twitter.com/paddypower/status/1555554219591172097?s=20&t=gCwjpaqhELXxjqMe2PmsZw

Ring any bells?

A great video, but not that relevant to us really

I don't know... Seems like some of our fanbase have forgotten about trying to enjoy the football or the start of a new season and instead spend all day moaning about the owner/transfers. I thought it was just us but I guess it's happening at every club.

Little bit easier to enjoy the football when you’re one of the best teams in the world. Whilst just down the road Charlton are conceding a 96th min equaliser at Accrington Stanley…

"All I want is an owner who cares so I can just go back to watching the football."

I think the response would have been completely different if the narrative had been:

"The whole club is fucked, from top to bottom, it's going to take 2 maybe 3 years to fix.  We won't always get it right but it won't be through lack of trying.  It wont be easy but we will get there".

I genuinely think last season was a massive kick in the bollocks for everyone, including TS.  I honestly believe he thought we had a "title winning" squad.  

It doesn't take 3 seasons to turn around a football club, especially when the club is below it's natural level. Wigan rebuilt their side in one summer and got promotion straight away, whereas we made a horlicks of it and went backwards from what had been a decent team at the end of 20/21. Bolton rebuilt in L2, got promotion straight away, had a decent season in L1 and now look better equipped to challenge for promotion than we do.

killerandflash said:

Cafc43v3r said:

Chunes said:

cafcfan1990 said:

Chunes said:

killerandflash said:

Henry Irving said:

https://twitter.com/paddypower/status/1555554219591172097?s=20&t=gCwjpaqhELXxjqMe2PmsZw

Ring any bells?

A great video, but not that relevant to us really

I don't know... Seems like some of our fanbase have forgotten about trying to enjoy the football or the start of a new season and instead spend all day moaning about the owner/transfers. I thought it was just us but I guess it's happening at every club.

Little bit easier to enjoy the football when you’re one of the best teams in the world. Whilst just down the road Charlton are conceding a 96th min equaliser at Accrington Stanley…

"All I want is an owner who cares so I can just go back to watching the football."

I think the response would have been completely different if the narrative had been:

"The whole club is fucked, from top to bottom, it's going to take 2 maybe 3 years to fix.  We won't always get it right but it won't be through lack of trying.  It wont be easy but we will get there".

I genuinely think last season was a massive kick in the bollocks for everyone, including TS.  I honestly believe he thought we had a "title winning" squad.  

It doesn't take 3 seasons to turn around a football club, especially when the club is below it's natural level. Wigan rebuilt their side in one summer and got promotion straight away, whereas we made a horlicks of it and went backwards from what had been a decent team at the end of 20/21. Bolton rebuilt in L2, got promotion straight away, had a decent season in L1 and now look better equipped to challenge for promotion than we do.

There isn't a blueprint either way. 

24-teams, even ten teams into three positions just doesnt work - Portsmouth are example of a team that have recovered and are still waiting. 

ForeverAddickted said:

Impression I get from the video, is that fans are too pent up, and focused these days over Transfers.

Too busy complaining about X, Y, Z playing, saying who we should sign... continuously throughout the season, as the moment we hit September, there will be fans of clubs saying that they need X, Y, Z come the January window - Just try and enjoy the actual Football - Results of course arent always going to go the way we want, but for me thats the unpredictable nature of the sport as a whole, thats one reason why I love this game.

I mean the quotes from Mr Mendez about budget has been talked about now

Surely last season (when we probably had the third / fourth biggest), and our result last week, proved that budgets mean diddly squat down here.

Well said! Obviously for some that pre-season trepidation is overwhelming and they over state the  negatives. You don’t hear from the silent majority who are genuinely excited about this season irrespective of our actual chances.