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Match Thread: Sheffield Wednesday vs Charlton Athletic | Saturday 13th August 2022

Oggy Red
Oggy Red Posts: 44,955
edited August 2022 in General Charlton
Wendies away. 32 degrees celcius.

Only one change in the starting XI .... Dobson.

Charlton: Wollacott; Clare, Inniss, O'Connell, Sessegnon; Morgan, Dobson, Fraser; Blackett-Taylor, Stockley (c), Kirk

Subs: MacGillivray, Lavelle, Clayden, McGrandles, Payne, Jaiyesimi, Leaburn

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  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,405
    Pitch looks very nice and green. 
  • balham red
    balham red Posts: 1,278
    Delighted to see Garner has acknowledged Dobson is worth a starting spot. Great sign that he isn't too stubborn to change his thinking.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,361
    Surprised Kirk starts ahead of DJ... Nice to see a settled team
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,770
    You’ve got to hand it to Garner - the team that got it done last Saturday deserve a crack at it despite some of the strong showings in the cup.

    Feeling confident that we’ll be more than a match for a strong Wednesday team. Just have to wait and see whether that results in any points or not.
  • Davo55
    Davo55 Posts: 7,836
    No Rak-Sakyi. Ben G doesn't rush new signings into the team.
  • AndyG
    AndyG Posts: 5,910
    I hope he has told Dobo to follow Bannan wherever goes and to show his inner Pratley 😂
  • covered_end_junior
    covered_end_junior Posts: 4,522
    Fancy Stockley for a goal today. Sheffield really struggled to deal with crosses against Portsmouth a couple of weeks back. 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,770
    edited August 2022
    balham red said:
    Delighted to see Garner has acknowledged Dobson is worth a starting spot. Great sign that he isn't too stubborn to change his thinking.
    This is the biggest surprise for me. He’s talked a lot about playing our own game and imposing our style on an opposition. To the point where I expected him to plough on with his original thoughts and ideas in these situations.

    It’s definitely a good sign that he’s willing to take the evidence in front of his eyes and adjust accordingly. Dobson was a really big part in last weekend’s three points and deserves the start.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,955
    mendonca said:
    Pitch looks very nice and green. 
    It's grim  green up North.


  • FishCostaFortune
    FishCostaFortune Posts: 10,773
    Very early in the season, but for me it feels like we will have some sort of idea about how close we are to the top teams in the league after todays performance.
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  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    New kid doesn’t make the bench. Pleased that he has to play his way into the squad.
  • AndyG
    AndyG Posts: 5,910
    covered_end_junior said:
    Fancy Stockley for a goal today. Sheffield really struggled to deal with crosses against Portsmouth a couple of weeks back. 
    That's what I thought and the odds on Innis scoring twice is £650-1 so stuck a fiver on 😂 hope we get a few corners 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,635
    well, my 2-0 wont come in with JRS scoring the 2nd.

    As someone mentioned the other day, do we ever sign someone during the week & put him in the team (or on the bench) on the Saturday. Can't remember in recent time but I think Curbs might have dome in with Bradley Allen in 1996.
  • Southbank
    Southbank Posts: 5,253
    No room for JFC or Gilbey.
  • balham red
    balham red Posts: 1,278
    No matter what the moaners will tell you, we've got a good squad this year. That Payne can't break in to the starting 11 and that Rak Saki isn't getting rushed into the squad, is testament to that.

    Still fancy us to lose today though.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,955
    Davo55 said:
    No Rak-Sakyi. Ben G doesn't rush new signings into the team.
    In his pre-match interview, Garner hinted that Rak-Sak would probably not be involved, but would travel to watch and get to know everyone.

    But would likely to be involved v Argyle next Tuesday.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,361
    edited August 2022
    Redrobo said:
    New kid doesn’t make the bench. Pleased that he has to play his way into the squad.
    Nice too that Garner doesn't feel the need to rush him - Team are doing well enough on their own, so throwing him straight in, potentially sends the message that he has doubts over the rest.

    Better too to ease him in, once he's trained more... Could be seen as a risk to the rest of the team / tactics else. 
  • AndyG
    AndyG Posts: 5,910
    I like the fact that he isnt in the squad today. If he came straight in at the expense of another might show the wrong message to the squad. Nobody been that bad to drop straight out imo. Tuesday I'm sure he will feature
  • Southbank
    Southbank Posts: 5,253
    balham red said:
    Delighted to see Garner has acknowledged Dobson is worth a starting spot. Great sign that he isn't too stubborn to change his thinking.
    If you have a Fraser in midfield you need to have a Dobson too. We saw that against Derby.
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  • letthegoodtimesroll
    letthegoodtimesroll Posts: 10,622
    Southbank said:
    No room for JFC or Gilbey.
    With this squad there’s no need to break JFC too early in the season. Let him build up match fitness and strength. 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,382
    Southbank said:
    No room for JFC or Gilbey.
    Good, I don’t see who we’d leave out.
  • FishCostaFortune
    FishCostaFortune Posts: 10,773
    I imagine he will start on Tuesday, but I wonder if/when we will start to see Payne being featured from the start more often - and at whose expense.

    With the improvement we have seen in Morgan and DJ this year, JRS to come in, plus hopefully two more of similar quality - it really does feel like we’ve got a strong squad coming together. 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,770
    Sheff Wed (5-3-2): Stockdale; Hunt, Ihiekwe, Heneghan, Palmer, Johnson: Vaulks, Dele-Bashiru, Bannan; Paterson, Windass

    Subs: Dawson, James, Iorfa, Byers, Bakinson, Gregory, Sow
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,635
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Redrobo said:
    New kid doesn’t make the bench. Pleased that he has to play his way into the squad.
    Nice too that Garner doesn't feel the need to rush him - Team are doing well enough on their own, so throwing him straight in, potentially sends the message that he has doubts over the rest.

    Better too to ease him in, once he's trained more... Could be seen as a risk to the rest of the team / tactics else. 
    risk to the team/tactics ?  Have a word !

    Not hard for a player to come on for the last 15/20 mins at run at a tiring defence. not going to be spoiling any tactics or putting another player's nose out of joint.
  • Davo55
    Davo55 Posts: 7,836
    I can't really argue with the "unchanged team" approach - apart from Dobbo whom it would have been criminal to leave out again - but I think I would still have started Payne over Fraser. I like Fraser but Payne offers pace and dynamism as well as technical ability.
  • letthegoodtimesroll
    letthegoodtimesroll Posts: 10,622
    Davo55 said:
    I can't really argue with the "unchanged team" approach - apart from Dobbo whom it would have been criminal to leave out again - but I think I would still have started Payne over Fraser. I like Fraser but Payne offers pace and dynamism as well as technical ability.
    Payne coming on as a substitute in this heat will mean he will have a significantly greater impact 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,860
    Olly Groome on the pitch again  ;)
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,361
    edited August 2022
    golfaddick said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Redrobo said:
    New kid doesn’t make the bench. Pleased that he has to play his way into the squad.
    Nice too that Garner doesn't feel the need to rush him - Team are doing well enough on their own, so throwing him straight in, potentially sends the message that he has doubts over the rest.

    Better too to ease him in, once he's trained more... Could be seen as a risk to the rest of the team / tactics else. 
    risk to the team/tactics ?  Have a word !

    Not hard for a player to come on for the last 15/20 mins at run at a tiring defence. not going to be spoiling any tactics or putting another player's nose out of joint.
    What you dont think a sub can have a negative effect on a performance... Have a word!! - We lost at Peterborough two years ago, because of the subs we made!!

    Rak-Sakyi isn't going to be used to our style of play, and isnt going to know the characteristics of his team mates. 
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