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Summer 2022 transfer rumours (Gilbey loan confirmed p513, a signing falls through last minute p541)

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  • PopIcon
    PopIcon Posts: 5,970
    Jac_52 said:
    Vfrf said:
    Not necessarily in the context of this striker debate, but I do think Leaburn seems to be more effective from the right at the moment. RJS/Leaburn and Kirk/CBT should be the pairings. DJ is a versatile player and injuries happen so happy to keep him, but @Cafc43v3r I'm assuming that mendonca meant we'd move DJ on to free up SOME wages, but we'd obviously need to spend more than that to bring in a striker. At least that's how I read it.
     
    Miles is faster than his dad, so that wide attacking role seems to suit him. Playing in the centre is tougher than in the wide positions, I think the same applies in defence.
    He really will be some player. Big, strong, reasonably quick and has very good ability on the ball and he'll only get better.

    I hate to say this but we should really enjoy him whilst we can. He's averaging a goal every 42 minutes so far in the league, which is insane.
    When i saw Miles' goal last night, the first thing i thought was Carl wouldn't have scored that. I'd go as far to say, Carlo would have ended up on his arse trying.
  • Clarky
    Clarky Posts: 582
    JamesSeed said:

    A striker that scores goals?





    What, like Wilks? 
    Too expensive. 
    Can't see that happening. He played last night, so we would ask him to drop a league, move down south, take a salary cut and play second fiddle to Stockley! As you say too expensive.

  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    The Wilks rumour feels a lot like the “we tried but couldn’t get it over the line” we heard in the early Roland years. Never felt genuine, appeared to be the club wanting to look like they were in for some exciting players.

    The way things are off the pitch I wouldn’t be surprised if it was leaked by the club to look like money isn’t an issue. Making staff redundant and Garner talking about the budget doesn’t fit with a big L1 name like Wilks coming in.
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,309
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  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,309
    Scoham said:
    The Wilks rumour feels a lot like the “we tried but couldn’t get it over the line” we heard in the early Roland years. Never felt genuine, appeared to be the club wanting to look like they were in for some exciting players.

    The way things are off the pitch I wouldn’t be surprised if it was leaked by the club to look like money isn’t an issue. Making staff redundant and Garner talking about the budget doesn’t fit with a big L1 name like Wilks coming in.
    How can that work when no one form the club has mentioned we are after Wilkes. 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    mendonca said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    mendonca said:
    Try to move DJ on. Use Leaburn in thr right forward role (as backup) and get a centre forward who fancies battling it out for head honcho.
    What sort of wages is DJ on?  3k a week tops?  What sort of fee would we get for DJ?  Not a lot.

    What sort of head honcho striker you getting for 3k a week and not a lot of fee?
    Sounds like you've worked out our remaining budget to the £!
    Of course I haven't but you would think you what ever budget you had would need to be managed to the extent that you had 3 strikers before it ran out.  Wouldn't you?

    When the January 21 window shut we had Stockley, Aneke, Washington, Shwartz and Davison.  Now we have just the first two.

    So either it's not a budget issue and that's been said to dampen expectations or something unexpected has, or hasn't, happened.

    When your total wage bill is about 8 million quid 3k a week isn't much is it?
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    Clarky said:
    JamesSeed said:

    A striker that scores goals?





    What, like Wilks? 
    Too expensive. 
    Can't see that happening. He played last night, so we would ask him to drop a league, move down south, take a salary cut and play second fiddle to Stockley! As you say too expensive.

    As you say, not happening as he came of the bench. But you wouldn’t sign a player like that to play second fiddle to Stockley, he’d have been first choice you’d think. 
    We definitely need another striker with Aneke probably out for even longer, although that could well be a loan. 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    J BLOCK said:
    Scoham said:
    The Wilks rumour feels a lot like the “we tried but couldn’t get it over the line” we heard in the early Roland years. Never felt genuine, appeared to be the club wanting to look like they were in for some exciting players.

    The way things are off the pitch I wouldn’t be surprised if it was leaked by the club to look like money isn’t an issue. Making staff redundant and Garner talking about the budget doesn’t fit with a big L1 name like Wilks coming in.
    How can that work when no one form the club has mentioned we are after Wilkes. 
    Do you know who the source of the person who shared the Wilks rumour was then?
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,309
    Scoham said:
    J BLOCK said:
    Scoham said:
    The Wilks rumour feels a lot like the “we tried but couldn’t get it over the line” we heard in the early Roland years. Never felt genuine, appeared to be the club wanting to look like they were in for some exciting players.

    The way things are off the pitch I wouldn’t be surprised if it was leaked by the club to look like money isn’t an issue. Making staff redundant and Garner talking about the budget doesn’t fit with a big L1 name like Wilks coming in.
    How can that work when no one form the club has mentioned we are after Wilkes. 
    Do you know who the source of the person who shared the Wilks rumour was then?
    Nothing official has come from the club or Cawley. So theoretically if this doesn’t happen how can you then turn round and say it was a plant from the club. It’s a rumour, like a dozens of others that happen to each window. 



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  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    J BLOCK said:
    Scoham said:
    J BLOCK said:
    Scoham said:
    The Wilks rumour feels a lot like the “we tried but couldn’t get it over the line” we heard in the early Roland years. Never felt genuine, appeared to be the club wanting to look like they were in for some exciting players.

    The way things are off the pitch I wouldn’t be surprised if it was leaked by the club to look like money isn’t an issue. Making staff redundant and Garner talking about the budget doesn’t fit with a big L1 name like Wilks coming in.
    How can that work when no one form the club has mentioned we are after Wilkes. 
    Do you know who the source of the person who shared the Wilks rumour was then?
    Nothing official has come from the club or Cawley. So theoretically if this doesn’t happen how can you then turn round and say it was a plant from the club. It’s a rumour, like a dozens of others that happen to each window. 



    Just speculating that it feels like that, not saying it definitely is. We don’t know the source, it may or may not have been passed on from someone in the club. Those rumours from that RD years that I compared to weren’t always from the club or Cawley.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    Part of me is convinced by the Wilks rumours because he’s the perfect player for the badly spelt players names club. Mallik (double l) Wilks (no e) joins the likes of Igor Ventokele and Damian Matthews.
  • CafcSCP
    CafcSCP Posts: 1,464
    I can only think that Charlton are playing games in the press about the striker.
    I doubted it the other day that the club would be doin this, but what other reason can there be to say we are interested but the ones we want are effectively out of our price range? That’s how I read the article anyway.
    It’s obvious to all that we need a new striker to cover or even start. Curbs and Minto saying the same.
    No doubt there’s targets, and Wilks would be a great addition. 
    Can’t see that happening myself. Stockton is a one season wonder in my opinion and offers nothing more than Stockley.
    Stockton probably ends up at Wrexham who are chucking cash around on wages. Like they did with the striker last season.
    Not sure a Prem loan would work. The kid would get bullied in our league.
    Perhaps a championship player who’s not in the plans is the way forward. Same as we did with Stockley. Experienced at this level and has a point to prove.

  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,221
    I think it is what has been said by SG and BG.

    We need to move other players on to free up space in the squad and free up wages for the new boys.

    Moving on the like of Gilbey and JFC won't be that easy IMHO hence the hold up.

    The guy from Chesterfield feels more likely than Wilks or Stockton but I have no ITK knowledge
  • I have a feeling that they will get Bonne back on loan , and loan out Leaburn to get some experience - as well as offloading JFC , DJ and Gilbey. - Garner said he prefers to work with a smaller squad. - The emergence of Clayden and Henry will add some depth and can always recall Deji at CB if required. 
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,314
    I have a feeling that they will get Bonne back on loan , and loan out Leaburn to get some experience - as well as offloading JFC , DJ and Gilbey. - Garner said he prefers to work with a smaller squad. - The emergence of Clayden and Henry will add some depth and can always recall Deji at CB if required. 
    There is no way in hell that Garner would have Bonne in his squad
  • RC_CAFC
    RC_CAFC Posts: 1,756
    I have a feeling that they will get Bonne back on loan , and loan out Leaburn to get some experience - as well as offloading JFC , DJ and Gilbey. - Garner said he prefers to work with a smaller squad. - The emergence of Clayden and Henry will add some depth and can always recall Deji at CB if required. 
    Don't see any reason to send Leaburn out on loan. The purpose of that is to get first team experience and with 2 goals in 4 sub appearances as well as playing well, I think he will get a fair bit of that here. If he drops back down the pecking order by January, maybe then but I can only see him being part of the first team squad this season after the start that he has had.
  • DubaiCAFC
    DubaiCAFC Posts: 2,461
    I have a feeling that they will get Bonne back on loan , and loan out Leaburn to get some experience - as well as offloading JFC , DJ and Gilbey. - Garner said he prefers to work with a smaller squad. - The emergence of Clayden and Henry will add some depth and can always recall Deji at CB if required. 
    That is one way to totally piss off the fans and derail our season
  • No.1 in South London
    No.1 in South London Posts: 3,960
    edited August 2022
    Charlton often need other things to happen for transfers to take place.
    There have been (low) bids for both JFC & Gilbey from the same club.
    if clubs we are looking to buy from, hold out for fees, then it makes sense that we hold out as well to balance the budget……. Bids happen and are rejected or put on hold…… it sometimes needs one to be accepted for the dominos to fall….. and sometimes those dominos don’t fall at all. Gallen’s role is key.
  • mart77
    mart77 Posts: 5,658
    Charlton often need other things to happen for transfers to take place.
    There have been (low) bids for both JFK & Gilbey from the same club.
    if clubs we are looking to buy from, hold out for fees, then it makes sense that we hold out as well to balance the budget……. Bids happen and are rejected or put on hold…… it sometimes needs one to be accepted for the dominos to fall.
    MK Dons or Pompey?
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  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,359
    edited August 2022
    no way, we getting fees for those two, we will prob end up paying part of their wages too.

    ok, maybe undisclosed for Gilbey, 50k tops

  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,314
    Loan out our top-scorer eh
  • I have a feeling that they will get Bonne back on loan , and loan out Leaburn to get some experience - as well as offloading JFC , DJ and Gilbey. - Garner said he prefers to work with a smaller squad. - The emergence of Clayden and Henry will add some depth and can always recall Deji at CB if required. 
    Is it possible to be more wrong than this post? 
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,955
    PopIcon said:
    Jac_52 said:
    Vfrf said:
    Not necessarily in the context of this striker debate, but I do think Leaburn seems to be more effective from the right at the moment. RJS/Leaburn and Kirk/CBT should be the pairings. DJ is a versatile player and injuries happen so happy to keep him, but @Cafc43v3r I'm assuming that mendonca meant we'd move DJ on to free up SOME wages, but we'd obviously need to spend more than that to bring in a striker. At least that's how I read it.
     
    Miles is faster than his dad, so that wide attacking role seems to suit him. Playing in the centre is tougher than in the wide positions, I think the same applies in defence.
    He really will be some player. Big, strong, reasonably quick and has very good ability on the ball and he'll only get better.

    I hate to say this but we should really enjoy him whilst we can. He's averaging a goal every 42 minutes so far in the league, which is insane.
    When i saw Miles' goal last night, the first thing i thought was Carl wouldn't have scored that. I'd go as far to say, Carlo would have ended up on his arse trying.
    Proper Mendonca goal. Calm, composed and knew exactly where to place it.


  • Addickhead86
    Addickhead86 Posts: 1,148
    Oggy Red said:
    PopIcon said:
    Jac_52 said:
    Vfrf said:
    Not necessarily in the context of this striker debate, but I do think Leaburn seems to be more effective from the right at the moment. RJS/Leaburn and Kirk/CBT should be the pairings. DJ is a versatile player and injuries happen so happy to keep him, but @Cafc43v3r I'm assuming that mendonca meant we'd move DJ on to free up SOME wages, but we'd obviously need to spend more than that to bring in a striker. At least that's how I read it.
     
    Miles is faster than his dad, so that wide attacking role seems to suit him. Playing in the centre is tougher than in the wide positions, I think the same applies in defence.
    He really will be some player. Big, strong, reasonably quick and has very good ability on the ball and he'll only get better.

    I hate to say this but we should really enjoy him whilst we can. He's averaging a goal every 42 minutes so far in the league, which is insane.
    When i saw Miles' goal last night, the first thing i thought was Carl wouldn't have scored that. I'd go as far to say, Carlo would have ended up on his arse trying.
    Proper Mendonca goal. Calm, composed and knew exactly where to place it.


    Not wanting to put undue pressure on the young man, but the player he reminds me of the most at the same age is Ivan Toney. He has a good base of strength and speed already that can only grow over the next few years of physical development, and seemingly really good technique too. 
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,477
    Scoham said:
    J BLOCK said:
    Scoham said:
    The Wilks rumour feels a lot like the “we tried but couldn’t get it over the line” we heard in the early Roland years. Never felt genuine, appeared to be the club wanting to look like they were in for some exciting players.

    The way things are off the pitch I wouldn’t be surprised if it was leaked by the club to look like money isn’t an issue. Making staff redundant and Garner talking about the budget doesn’t fit with a big L1 name like Wilks coming in.
    How can that work when no one form the club has mentioned we are after Wilkes. 
    Do you know who the source of the person who shared the Wilks rumour was then?
    More to the point…..do you?