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Summer 2022 transfer rumours (Gilbey loan confirmed p513, a signing falls through last minute p541)

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  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,810
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Rothko said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Rothko said:
    Didn’t Yann sign as a free agent? 
    Yes and we signed Sam Bartram from a colliery team... 

    Your point?  
    That you can still pick up a decent player
    Of all the decent players we have had in, say the last 30 years, how many were free agents picked up out side of the window? 
    Sure someone got the spreadsheet, surprised you haven’t got that stat at your finger tips 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,231
    What were the complications, sounds very ambiguous.

    If Aneke can pass a medical don’t see why Bonne can’t. 


    Maybe Bonne looked at social media again 🤣

    We’ve lost 1 in 6 against decent sides and peoples worlds are falling apart. 

    Can you not see that it's Been Garner that will feel let down. I have seen it all before that's why I didn't join the likes feast for Covered end lad.

    A good window for Cafc in recent years is  when we don't sell our better players.
    Hopefully we haven't?

  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,956
    edited September 2022
    Rothko said:
    Didn’t Yann sign as a free agent? 
    He did.

    Anyone seen a striker taking a terrible penalty and pissing the fans off recently?
    Found him!

    https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/simone-zaza/profil/spieler/96828

    https://youtu.be/Rn2OE9XJc8U

    (Not a serious suggestion, just in case).
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,587
    edited September 2022
    Free agents who were last with an EFL club:

    Matej Vydra
    Marc McNulty
    Andy Carroll
    Yaya Sanogo
    Hal Robson-Kanu
    Fraizer Campbell
    Isaac Vassell
    Jamie Thomas
    Oumar Niasse
    Sam Winnall
    Leon Clarke
    Nathan Delfouneso
    Josh Parker
    Lewis Mansell
    Tom Elliott
    Derick Osei Yaw
    Theo Robinson
    Caolan Lavery
    Ryan Hillier
    Going to be Sanogo, Clarke or Parker then, only ones who tick the ex player box.
  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 3,308
    So if the club statement is correct Bonne was THE striker all along?
  • ozaddick
    ozaddick Posts: 2,846
    Being 7 hours in front, (but decades behind)  here's in Perth, every 6 months, I wake up after the window has just shut on deadline day, and there's always around 100 plus pages to scroll through on the thread. Yet before I even started this morning, and seeing half that, i knew we'd done feck all business. 

    Considering the lack of strengthening of our forwards, which was always a big possibility,  why didn't we at least hold onto Davidson as cover for stockley? He worked well enough for Ben last season, bar the missed pen, playing in the style we're playing now, and he would of been cheap as chips to keep.
    In fact I'd be bold enough to say he'd of gotten more goals than stockley this season, as he'd be in a 2nd season of Ben's coaching, and more finely tuned to it. 

    And where's this left footed central defender we all know we needed??? No mention of that at all. 

    Thomas has pissed on his own cornflakes this morning. Silly man. 
  • IAgree
    IAgree Posts: 1,839
    Lower mid table tops 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Addick_8 said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Rothko said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Rothko said:
    Didn’t Yann sign as a free agent? 
    Yes and we signed Sam Bartram from a colliery team... 

    Your point?  
    That you can still pick up a decent player
    Of all the decent players we have had in, say the last 30 years, how many were free agents picked up out side of the window? 
    His point still stands though.
    Not really, one player, out of 100s doesn't make it good option. 
  • Like a few others I thought a CB was the higher priority.
    sorry to say, Inness looks a customer for the treatment table.
    What a waste of an evening, hitting refresh button.

    Looks like TS has run out of money, not surprised considering the Zynex share price.

    Things ain’t getting any better if we’re going to break even in two year’s, of course that’s not a realistic option.

    Oh well, we will see a few more of our crop of talented youngsters.
    I’m off to bed.


  • Free agents who were last with an EFL club:

    Matej Vydra
    Marc McNulty
    Andy Carroll
    Yaya Sanogo
    Hal Robson-Kanu
    Fraizer Campbell
    Isaac Vassell
    Jamie Thomas
    Oumar Niasse
    Sam Winnall
    Leon Clarke
    Nathan Delfouneso
    Josh Parker
    Lewis Mansell
    Tom Elliott
    Derick Osei Yaw
    Theo Robinson
    Caolan Lavery
    Ryan Hillier
    Going to be Sanogo, Clarke or Parker then, only ones who tick the ex player box.
    Leon Clarke.
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  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,053
    Disappointing

    Obviously I would have liked us to spend a bit of money on a decent L1 striker, but if that wasn't possible, then surely there were loan options available if we moved earlier.

    Pompey for example, not one of the moneybags clubs, signed THREE strikers in the window, Colby Bishop on a perm, plus Joe Pigott and  Dane Scarlett on loan. Scarlett scored the winner on Saturday

    Added Josh Koroma on loan from Huddersfield tonight as well , that's a very good set of attackers they've got there. 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,641
    JamesSeed said:
    https://twitter.com/cafcofficial/status/1565464785424191488?s=21&t=MgamiTNvLrpbAlKkb2995g

    Following the closure of the 2022 summer transfer window, the club would like to update supporters.

    The Addicks signed seven players during the window and were working very hard to add at least one more player on transfer deadline day.

    Charlton Owner and CEO Thomas Sandgaard said: “It has been a busy few days and we were very confident of bringing in another striker before the deadline. The whole recruitment team - myself, Steve [Gallen], Martin [Sandgaard] and Ben [Garner] - have been working tirelessly to get this last deal completed.

    “We thought we were there and the player had passed his medical at our training ground on Thursday evening, but unfortunately there were complications beyond our control late in the day, which went down to the last minute, and we haven’t been able to sign the player.

    “With players departing the club on loan, that frees up some space in the squad and we’ll now have a further look at options in the free agent market.

    “Despite not getting a striker in, we have a very good squad in place and an excellent manager, as our early-season performances have shown. The whole group are focused on the coming months and doing the best they can for the club.”

    Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha 

    You can all mock me all you like......but I wasn't wrong.

    Mid table obscurity once again. 

    You've been waiting all day to post that haven't you?

    Spout enough shit and eventually you will get something right.

    You are literally the most tedious person to ever log on to the internet.
    Do I care. No.

    You have your opinions & I have mine. Just so happens mine rub people up the wrong way because I have the gall to say it as it is. 

    I would have loved to have be proved wrong and a new striker & central defender announced today. But I know what person TS is......all talk & no action. seriously think that he wants to sell the club and he is cutting costs wherever he can. Getting rid of experienced staff & replacing them with teenagers - no contract and asking them to send in an invoice for their shift. 

    Shambles.
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    Addick_8 said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Rothko said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Rothko said:
    Didn’t Yann sign as a free agent? 
    Yes and we signed Sam Bartram from a colliery team... 

    Your point?  
    That you can still pick up a decent player
    Of all the decent players we have had in, say the last 30 years, how many were free agents picked up out side of the window? 
    His point still stands though.
    Not really, one player, out of 100s doesn't make it good option. 
    Correlation does not imply causation though.

    I don’t think anyone said it is a good option, but sadly it’s the only option we have at the moment,  and it does not mean we might not find someone who improves the team. 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,384
    Rothko said:
    Didn’t Yann sign as a free agent? 
    He did but we’ve signed a lot more who haven’t worked out. He was a bit of a one off, you won’t often find a player of his quality on a free in September.

    I can’t remember a free agent signing outside the window since then who made anywhere near the impact he did.
  • Billy_Mix
    Billy_Mix Posts: 2,707
    Anybody falling for that “statement” on the OS?
    missing out at the last minute on a forward is hard enough to swallow but no mention at all of the defensive addition? 
    All total bollox of the lowest order
    #sunlituplands
    Gonna be piss weak til Christmas at least





  • DJ loan to Mansfield cancelled because we couldn't push through Bonne.
    I never understood why he was going in the first place. Played well in the games he's featured in and if/when there's an injury to Kirk/JRS/CBT he will get a chance in the league 
    Because he is behind the other three according to garner, although I'm not sure about him being behind Kirk and Thomas wants to keep costs (cut outgoings) to the minimum.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,587
    Free agents who were last with an EFL club:

    Matej Vydra
    Marc McNulty
    Andy Carroll
    Yaya Sanogo
    Hal Robson-Kanu
    Fraizer Campbell
    Isaac Vassell
    Jamie Thomas
    Oumar Niasse
    Sam Winnall
    Leon Clarke
    Nathan Delfouneso
    Josh Parker
    Lewis Mansell
    Tom Elliott
    Derick Osei Yaw
    Theo Robinson
    Caolan Lavery
    Ryan Hillier
    I assume that all on that list have now been without a club since the end of last season so will take a month or so to get properly fit.
  • Pavoren007
    Pavoren007 Posts: 2,525
    While a forward would be great, it is in central defence that I am really concerned. Inniss injury and suspension prone, Lavelle has had his misfortunes and what have we left, albeit Ness may be given a chance or Elewere recalled. Anyhow, weaker there than across the forwards so should be a priority look at freebies. 
  • Unpopular opinion, but the lack of a centre back signing is far more concerning to me than not getting a striker. We'll have to make it work with Stockley, and I still believe it can. I don't think he's been nearly as bad as his biggest detractors suggest. Up to Garner now to earn his corn and make it work. Time to get behind Stockley and build him up rather than piling pressure on him as a fan base.

    It's not if but when Innis gets injured. In fact he was subbed off last match. I don't mind Lavelle as a player, I think he's steadily improving and has actually looked pretty comfortable with the possession football we are playing. But 2 + Innis is not enough, plus Lavelle had two lengthy spells out last season - there are questions marks about how resilient his fitness is now too. We could very quickly find ourselves having to play Clare at centre back in a2 (not sure about that against a big lump centre forward), or a very young, inexperienced player like Ness in a key position.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Rothko said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Rothko said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Rothko said:
    Didn’t Yann sign as a free agent? 
    Yes and we signed Sam Bartram from a colliery team... 

    Your point?  
    That you can still pick up a decent player
    Of all the decent players we have had in, say the last 30 years, how many were free agents picked up out side of the window? 
    Sure someone got the spreadsheet, surprised you haven’t got that stat at your finger tips 
    The point is it's one.  For ever Yann there are 5 duffs.  But if you want to cling on to hope beyond hope be my guest. 
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  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,231
    edited September 2022
    Well that didn’t go to plan. Just passed on what I was told from a usually impeccable source, not convinced even the recruitment team have much of a clue.
    Can you tell us who the players were at this point?
    Defender was a loan from champ side, wasn’t given name. 

    Forward was Scully from Lincoln.


    Do you not realize that until the player signs his agent will still be trying to get him a Championship move. How many times and windows does this have to happen before the penny drops. Wigan beat us to the CB from St Johnson what chance when Wigan are in a division higher.

    Despite our half decent start we are short of a squad to challenge.




  • Jac_52
    Jac_52 Posts: 1,460
    Free agents who were last with an EFL club:

    Matej Vydra
    Marc McNulty
    Andy Carroll
    Yaya Sanogo
    Hal Robson-Kanu
    Fraizer Campbell
    Isaac Vassell
    Jamie Thomas
    Oumar Niasse
    Sam Winnall
    Leon Clarke
    Nathan Delfouneso
    Josh Parker
    Lewis Mansell
    Tom Elliott
    Derick Osei Yaw
    Theo Robinson
    Caolan Lavery
    Ryan Hillier

    Robson-Kanu and vydra the stand outs there for me but no chance we could afford them, Vydra especially.

    I'd actually take Sanogo back but he hasn't played a game since May 2021 and tbh I'd also take Andy Carroll for a laugh.
  • Watching episodes of welcome to Wrexham on Disney Plus today. 

    Quite impressed on how Rob and Ryan have admitted they have limited understanding on running the club so initially got a Shaun Harvey to advise and then appoint a CEO to make those big decisions and plan.

    Also on how they employed the volunteers who are passionate about the club to grow the club as if the club is promoted they will need people in those positions and they have the knowledge and experience already. 

    But ultimately on how they had set out their targets and got them because they all was on the same page.

    Phil Parkinson as Manager & Paul Mullin as star striker.

    Can't help but feel there must be a slight divide somewhere.

    As much as Ben Garner has done a good job so far, I be concerned that when the winter period hits we be forced to take risks with selection rather then simply rotate, how often have we been caught out by playing unfit players.

    As much as we need that pacy all round finisher feel we are definitely short at  centre-back. We have Inniss, Lavelle & O'Connell.
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,810
    Scoham said:
    Rothko said:
    Didn’t Yann sign as a free agent? 
    He did but we’ve signed a lot more who haven’t worked out. He was a bit of a one off, you won’t often find a player of his quality on a free in September.

    I can’t remember a free agent signing outside the window since then who made anywhere near the impact he did.
    Yep, and CBT was another, I remember when he signed on here, and it was meltdown like. 

    Anyway, we’ll see what happens, I’m with the likes of Valley Gary and Clem on this, decent team, good manager, who knows, I haven’t written the season off emotionally or to look like a football genius, off the back of tonight. 
  • Ferryman
    Ferryman Posts: 2,921
    If you listened carefully to Sandgaard at the very start of the window the signs were there.He mentioned things nearly always going down to deadline day.But that is bullshit.
    If he had the means and will to buy a quality striker he would've done it. But he didn't.
    This bullshit story he's put out tonight was written at the end of June.
    When he started spouting on a video interview I thought he surely had the deals up his sleeve, or why risk exposing yourself like that? And he stayed in England to see this through.
  • Clem_Snide
    Clem_Snide Posts: 11,741
    Re: Centre Back - assume that we can recall Elewere if we are in a hole and I seem to recall Clare doing pretty well there last season. Neither ideal, but there is some cover there if we get hit by injuries.
  • Pavoren007
    Pavoren007 Posts: 2,525
    Well that didn’t go to plan. Just passed on what I was told from a usually impeccable source, not convinced even the recruitment team have much of a clue.
    Can you tell us who the players were at this point?
    Defender was a loan from champ side, wasn’t given name. 

    Forward was Scully from Lincoln.

    Do you not realize that until the player signs his agent will still be trying to get him a Championship move. How many times and windows does this have to happen before the penny drops. Wigan beat as to the CB from St Johnson what chance when Wigan are in a division higher.

    Despite our half decent start we are short of a squad to challenge.
    Cannot find Covered ends post to quote, but believe the club was Swansea and name was mentioned but I have completely forgotten it as I had never heard of him before.
  • Jac_52
    Jac_52 Posts: 1,460
    Anyway I hereby rate this transfer window an 8 despite the disappointment of today.

    A massive upgrade on our manager
    7 new signings
    Loads of youth signed up
    And a large amount of absolute dross shifted on

    Time to enjoy the season.. until January and we sell all our best players.


  • On balance better that we didn’t sign players who are no better than we already have just for the sake of it. 

    We can only hope that Leaburn and Kanu take comfort from it and come knocking loudly at Garners  door to get their chances. 

    That’s the positive. 

    More likely we have to hope (because that’s all we gave)  injuries are not our undoing.