Another Shooting In America?

10 people killed after a member of staff in Walmart Virginia starting shooting and turned the gun on himself. RIP all the victims 

The store manager apparently opened fire on his own staff. But it's mental really that someone is able to just stroll into work with a fucking firearm.

Anyone who's followed DNS' travails trying to sell his house - just think that instead of throwing a hole punch, in America that person could have had a gun. An actual fucking gun. That could have been a very different story then. It's so so stupid.

RIP to the victims. I only wish this would be the last time I will write that but somehow I doubt it.

depressing that this thread continues to have to be resurrected  

ShootersHillGuru said:

It’s shocking and awful but it’s going to never stop repeating. RIP

I’d say a lot of people don’t even find it shocking any more.

https://news.sky.com/story/boy-10-shot-mother-dead-after-she-refused-to-buy-him-a-virtual-reality-headset-12759406

Guns don't kill people. People who allow six year olds to have guns kill people. 

NapaAddick said:

I live in Napa, obviously. We are a destination area for vacationers. Homes go for about $1000/square foot and it's a Michelin-star culture. But even we had a mass shooting a few years ago that was horrific. I was just 500 meters away when it started.

Despite all we have here I am currently sitting in a popular coffee house in Napa writing this. I always... always position myself with a view of those coming to the door and also so I can see those coming through the back door. If I can't, I get coffee to go. It is now second nature for me to look up and see who is coming in BEFORE they actually come up the stairs in case I need to run. A few extra seconds count. I do this everywhere.

My good friend has two kids, age 7 and 10. They attend the same school. He says he does not go 2 hours any school day without thinking that is could happen to them and worrying.

There is no safe place from one of these shootings. Pre-schools, Veteran's homes (ours), it can be anywhere... any time. Having this brooding undercurrent of fear of the 1 in a million chance is part of life in the USA now. It's impossible to explain to most Europeans because fortunately they rarely have them.

Liking this seems inappropriate,and you are right that I have no comprehension of this. Thanks for sharing though, very thought provoking 

DaveMehmet said:

NapaAddick said:

I live in Napa, obviously. We are a destination area for vacationers. Homes go for about $1000/square foot and it's a Michelin-star culture. But even we had a mass shooting a few years ago that was horrific. I was just 500 meters away when it started.

Despite all we have here I am currently sitting in a popular coffee house in Napa writing this. I always... always position myself with a view of those coming to the door and also so I can see those coming through the back door. If I can't, I get coffee to go. It is now second nature for me to look up and see who is coming in BEFORE they actually come up the stairs in case I need to run. A few extra seconds count. I do this everywhere.

My good friend has two kids, age 7 and 10. They attend the same school. He says he does not go 2 hours any school day without thinking that is could happen to them and worrying.

There is no safe place from one of these shootings. Pre-schools, Veteran's homes (ours), it can be anywhere... any time. Having this brooding undercurrent of fear of the 1 in a million chance is part of life in the USA now. It's impossible to explain to most Europeans because fortunately they rarely have them.

No offence mate, but it seems like a fucking horrible place to live if you have to constantly think like that.

It's amazing what human brains can process and tell themselves they are use to.

rananegra said:

I was listening to this on the news at the same time as the ongoing House Speaker election. The people who hold the power over the new house speaker would presumably say that the teacher should have shot the 6 year old first. Frightening.  Is it normal for 6 year olds to carry guns at school? I presume it's a lot earlier that you can buy a gun than drink a beer. 

@NapaAddick - that's seriously scary stuff, but you're wrong that there is no safe space - there are loads but they are in countries where carrying guns is seen as weird not the norm. 

Do you really think it it normal and do you think it was that 6 year olds own gun that was used? 

MrOneLung said:

rananegra said:

I was listening to this on the news at the same time as the ongoing House Speaker election. The people who hold the power over the new house speaker would presumably say that the teacher should have shot the 6 year old first. Frightening.  Is it normal for 6 year olds to carry guns at school? I presume it's a lot earlier that you can buy a gun than drink a beer. 

@NapaAddick - that's seriously scary stuff, but you're wrong that there is no safe space - there are loads but they are in countries where carrying guns is seen as weird not the norm. 

Do you really think it it normal and do you think it was that 6 year olds own gun that was used? 

No he borrowed it off his 4 year old brother.

NapaAddick said:

I live in Napa, obviously. We are a destination area for vacationers. Homes go for about $1000/square foot and it's a Michelin-star culture. But even we had a mass shooting a few years ago that was horrific. I was just 500 meters away when it started.

Despite all we have here I am currently sitting in a popular coffee house in Napa writing this. I always... always position myself with a view of those coming to the door and also so I can see those coming through the back door. If I can't, I get coffee to go. It is now second nature for me to look up and see who is coming in BEFORE they actually come up the stairs in case I need to run. A few extra seconds count. I do this everywhere.

My good friend has two kids, age 7 and 10. They attend the same school. He says he does not go 2 hours any school day without thinking that is could happen to them and worrying.

There is no safe place from one of these shootings. Pre-schools, Veteran's homes (ours), it can be anywhere... any time. Having this brooding undercurrent of fear of the 1 in a million chance is part of life in the USA now. It's impossible to explain to most Europeans because fortunately they rarely have them.

From a European perspective, I think if the USA were a person it would be wearing a back to front jacket in a room with soft walls for its own protection. The place is broken, but as you say, it's now normal there. I think you have to get outside the USA to see what normal really is. If you're buying a backpack for your school age child pretty much anywhere else in the world you don't need to ask what calibre of bullet it protects against. 
I've been to the US a few times and really enjoyed it but there's no way I'd ever want to live there.