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Garner Gawn? (Ed. CORRECT - GARNER SACKED p6, and again by Colchester p32)
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Equally starved the manager of funds, and in the division above.lancashire lad said:have never liked TS or his family, in his latter days RD was better for the club, feel sorry for Garner and hope he got a good pay off, however it is a good time to start a new manager with a transfer window soon, think of all those new loans we can have.1 -
It still will not alter the fundamental problems. We will get the injured players back and results may well improve but the next crisis will be around the corner because of the underfunding imposed on the squad. Also, when we look at the timing of Garners sacking, does it not suit Sandgaard to replace a manager, a few weeks before the transfer window, a manager who wanted squad strengthening and openly said so, a manager whose place is now filled by caretaker managers who cannot argue for such a policy change? Sandgaard promised supporters and Garner that squad would be improved, he did an about turn in late summer and any manager brought in would now surely be told there will be no improvement in the squad.Todds_right_hook said:
Although I agree with you, Pearce has probably forgotten more about football than everyone on here have ever learnt. He was a leader on the pitch, even last season as a sub, he would stand in the corner instructing players.mendonca said:Two very inexperienced caretakers - probably just how Sandgaards like it.
im not happy with this situation but im
glad that Pearce is involved. If Hayes is the tactical one, Pearce will hopefully be the motivator, the arm around the shoulder when needed and also the kick up the arse when needed.1 -
Quite a few fans were a bit too quick to perform fellatio on Garner and at the same time happy to bury club legend Johnny Jackson whilst at it when in all honesty neither had a proper chance to mould a team of their liking .
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Def "Not Guilty" on that one...oohaahmortimer said:Quite a few fans were a bit too quick to perform fellatio on Garner and at the same time happy to bury club legend Johnny Jackson whilst at it when in all honesty neither had a proper chance to mould a team of their liking .
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Been an Addict for 49 years. Getting really bored of this shite now.6
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With a cattle prodFerryman said:
We need to get behind the players to avoid relegationAndyG said:I havent missed a game home or away either at the game or via the stream for years. After this that's it for me until the twat is gone and that is from someone who defended him but this is just plain stupid. I dread to think what the idiot is going to do next.0 -
Oh here we fucking gooohaahmortimer said:Quite a few fans were a bit too quick to perform fellatio on Garner and at the same time happy to bury club legend Johnny Jackson whilst at it when in all honesty neither had a proper chance to mould a team of their liking .0 -
Wheresmeticket? said:
Oh here we fucking go..., down to League Two.oohaahmortimer said:Quite a few fans were a bit too quick to perform fellatio on Garner and at the same time happy to bury club legend Johnny Jackson whilst at it when in all honesty neither had a proper chance to mould a team of their liking .1 -
.....yep, on the cards.ro_addick said:Wheresmeticket? said:
Oh here we fucking go..., down to League Two.oohaahmortimer said:Quite a few fans were a bit too quick to perform fellatio on Garner and at the same time happy to bury club legend Johnny Jackson whilst at it when in all honesty neither had a proper chance to mould a team of their liking .
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Personally think JJ getting the full time job was the easy option for TS at the time, but he got away with it with the blessing of most of the fans.
If TS was serious about a 5 year plan, or even a 10 year plan come to that, he would've invested in a more experienced head imo2 - Sponsored links:
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Really? I don't think he ever wanted JJ. The fans practically forced Johnnie on him. People were angry that he took so long to give him the job.Gribbo said:Personally think JJ getting the full time job was the easy option for TS at the time, but he got away with it with the blessing of most of the fans.
If TS was serious about a 5 year plan, or even a 10 year plan come to that, he would've invested in a more experienced head imo8 -
That's how it come over, but it was very convenient weren't itChunes said:
Really? I don't think he ever wanted JJ. The fans practically forced Johnnie on him. People were angry that he took so long to give him the job.Gribbo said:Personally think JJ getting the full time job was the easy option for TS at the time, but he got away with it with the blessing of most of the fans.
If TS was serious about a 5 year plan, or even a 10 year plan come to that, he would've invested in a more experienced head imo1 -
@Chunes do you think TS had another bod in mind then?
Someone who he'd either have to pay compo for, or out of contract "well known" face who'd presumably cost quite a bit more than the caretaker manager / former player.
Would love to know who he was lining up instead of JJ at the time, if anybody, I genuinely would0 -
No not really Garner just thought he would be backed by our egotistical wanker of am owner.oohaahmortimer said:Quite a few fans were a bit too quick to perform fellatio on Garner and at the same time happy to bury club legend Johnny Jackson whilst at it when in all honesty neither had a proper chance to mould a team of their liking .
he will get another job soon and you watch will do ok, if you don’t put up the funds to match the bullshit you end up relegated and Fucked 🤣👎👎👎0 -
Over 70 years for me, believe me, it doesn't get any easier 😭😱😰1968CAFC said:
Me since 1968 and it is wearing thin.scidbox said:Been an Addict for 49 years. Getting really bored of this shite now.
A humiliating night in Stockport will not help.Hopefully our Irish ☘️ caretaker manager will
Get a result 👍👍👍3 -
Least this whole debacle fits in well with the clubs ‘Feel the drama’ marketing campaign.2
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Happy to day that Maltesers mini-reindeers have equipped me to be the next charlton manager.Left wing -broken, left side CB broken, right side CB and right wing a moment away from being broken, goalie last to get broken but definitely on the cards unless I invest in a new pack of mini-reindeers.I may just move to an all broken back 3.
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I'm not sure he had a particular person in mind but I think he wanted his own man. I think you only have to look at the stitch-up contract he gave JJ (and the 'Mission Impossible' it contained in terms of final league position) to see that he didn't want him.Gribbo said:@Chunes do you think TS had another bod in mind then?
Someone who he'd either have to pay compo for, or out of contract "well known" face who'd presumably cost quite a bit more than the caretaker manager / former player.
Would love to know who he was lining up instead of JJ at the time, if anybody, I genuinely would
I don't think he took JJ because he was cheap, he took him because he didn't have a choice. The fanbase would've gone turbo apeshit if he didn't - we were on a great run, the team were playing really well, he'd earned it. It only fell apart when JJ got the contract.2 -
JJ'S run ended with a 0-1 home defeat to Plymouth, that game was the first time that Stockley and Washington did not appear together on the team sheet under JJ, after Stockley finally gave in to a persistent back injury that finally could not be ignored, shortly after we lost Washington, and both were out for almost three months. In that time most on here called Jackson's football turgid whilst ignoring the fact that he was without both his first-choice strikers, it also played straight into Sandgaards hands as he then could get rid of Jackson cheaply as the league position that triggered an extension of JJ's contract was not achieved.Chunes said:
I'm not sure he had a particular person in mind but I think he wanted his own man. I think you only have to look at the stitch-up contract he gave JJ (and the 'Mission Impossible' it contained in terms of final league position) to see that he didn't want him.Gribbo said:@Chunes do you think TS had another bod in mind then?
Someone who he'd either have to pay compo for, or out of contract "well known" face who'd presumably cost quite a bit more than the caretaker manager / former player.
Would love to know who he was lining up instead of JJ at the time, if anybody, I genuinely would
I don't think he took JJ because he was cheap, he took him because he didn't have a choice. The fanbase would've gone turbo apeshit if he didn't - we were on a great run, the team were playing really well, he'd earned it. It only fell apart when JJ got the contract.7 - Sponsored links:
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Jacko should have been given the caretaker role with a view to a contract at the end of season.That would have shut the fans up and also given the Club/'Owners' a season to see if JJ had more about him than the new Manager purple patch. A club with people who know the game might have done this.2
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Ferryman said:
We need to get behind the players to avoid relegationAndyG said:I havent missed a game home or away either at the game or via the stream for years. After this that's it for me until the twat is gone and that is from someone who defended him but this is just plain stupid. I dread to think what the idiot is going to do next.
There is mitigation with the battering our supporters/critics have taken but
unfortunately with our fan base you are more likely to hear "your not fit to wear the shirt" and booing than support to our struggling players.
The fact that Matthew Southall is having the last laugh after Thomas Southall did his best work in seeing off the greedy chancer just makes me sad that the odious pond life that is Southall is enjoying our continuous troubles.
If Richard Murray and Peter Varney tenure was the blue print of how to run a football club and garner support until they fell out then Thomas Sandgaard is the blue print on how not to do it after a good start in seeing off the bad guys. The smell of Roland Duchatelet still lingers over the valley and Sparrows lane with only his demise possibly offering a solution if Roderick Duchatelet is more accommodating.
The catch 22 is who with altruistic reasons would take over a struggling League 1 club with falling attendances in the 2022/23 season in a football world dominated by the elitist Premier league and Champions League ?
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absolutely agree Oggie, if other squad positions had been filled/improved-everybodies happy. But as one of the few acquisitions made- did we need left sided defender also additional striker more?Oggy Red said:
MacKeeper, as you say, has a decent record in this division and shot-stopping is his strength - but he's a traditional style keeper.KingKinsella said:Garrymanilow said:WK6824Nine said:wouldn't call egbo or wollacot fourth division players. there are diamonds in the roughI think all the 'we only brought in League 2 players' thing is a bit of an easy cop-out anyway to be honest. Wollacott and Egbo are good as you say, but O'Connell is a decent player and has spent more of his career in L1 than L2. Payne has clearly lost his way a bit (might help if he ever got a run in the team) but has spent the vast majority of his career in L1and was a clear standout for Swindon in L2 the one season he was there. We got two Premier League loans in. I'm not really willing to be drawn on McGrandles, he's had a horrible season with injuries and we've just not seen him enough. On the face of it though, signing a player who had just had two very good seasons for a L1 team is more or less what we should be doingThe bigger problem is we lost loads of players, replaced some of them but did nothing about the unsuited players we already had. Lavelle has been truly atrocious, Morgan has reverted to being Morgan, Stockley has scored one goal in open play. Kirk continues to do one good thing every 6 games, DJ has been injured but I somehow don't think he'd have saved us if he wasn't. We made signings to plug gaps but we're still requiring one of Inniss or Lavelle to play as a passing CB every week because we weren't willing to bring in enough signings to overhaul the whole team. We don't have a striker suited to playing the way we play and the only options are a disaster or a player whose fitness record is impossibly bad.I'd actually rather have an entire squad of players signed from L2 that are suited to the way the team is trying to play than the mish-mash of nothing we currently have. We got Garner in telling him to get the team to play the most energy-sapping, technical way possible and gave him not even half a toolbox to do it with. I'd rather have Wollacott than Mac, Egbo than Gunter and Matthews, O'Connell than Famewo and JRS than Leko but it's meaningless when the overall set-up is broken. I don't hate the signings, I hate that there were nowhere near enough of them to compete
Despite the calamatous error by Mc Goalkeeper this w/e,(over a season he was better than average L1 GK) Wollacot was an investment (time and money) we didn't actually need when there were more urgent priorities in defence and attack. At the time it was thought to be an upgrade throughout the team but as it turned out it was one of few.
Garner wanted something different, a keeper who could also play out short passes with his feet.
Thus Wollocott was brought in - because he was already proven to play Garner's style of football.1 -
Easy.A billionaire.Do you know any?soapboxsam said:Ferryman said:
We need to get behind the players to avoid relegationAndyG said:I havent missed a game home or away either at the game or via the stream for years. After this that's it for me until the twat is gone and that is from someone who defended him but this is just plain stupid. I dread to think what the idiot is going to do next.
There is mitigation with the battering our supporters/critics have taken but
unfortunately with our fan base you are more likely to hear "your not fit to wear the shirt" and booing than support to our struggling players.
The fact that Matthew Southall is having the last laugh after Thomas Southall did his best work in seeing off the greedy chancer just makes me sad that the odious pond life that is Southall is enjoying our continuous troubles.
If Richard Murray and Peter Varney tenure was the blue print of how to run a football club and garner support until they fell out then Thomas Sandgaard is the blue print on how not to do it after a good start in seeing off the bad guys. The smell of Roland Duchatelet still lingers over the valley and Sparrows lane with only his demise possibly offering a solution if Roderick Duchatelet is more accommodating.
The catch 22 is who with altruistic reasons would take over a struggling League 1 club with falling attendances in the 2022/23 season in a football world dominated by the elitist Premier league and Champions League ?0 -
KingKinsella said:
Easy.A billionaire.Do you know any?soapboxsam said:Ferryman said:
We need to get behind the players to avoid relegationAndyG said:I havent missed a game home or away either at the game or via the stream for years. After this that's it for me until the twat is gone and that is from someone who defended him but this is just plain stupid. I dread to think what the idiot is going to do next.
There is mitigation with the battering our supporters/critics have taken but
unfortunately with our fan base you are more likely to hear "your not fit to wear the shirt" and booing than support to our struggling players.
The fact that Matthew Southall is having the last laugh after Thomas Southall did his best work in seeing off the greedy chancer just makes me sad that the odious pond life that is Southall is enjoying our continuous troubles.
If Richard Murray and Peter Varney tenure was the blue print of how to run a football club and garner support until they fell out then Thomas Sandgaard is the blue print on how not to do it after a good start in seeing off the bad guys. The smell of Roland Duchatelet still lingers over the valley and Sparrows lane with only his demise possibly offering a solution if Roderick Duchatelet is more accommodating.
The catch 22 is who with altruistic reasons would take over a struggling League 1 club with falling attendances in the 2022/23 season in a football world dominated by the elitist Premier league and Champions League ?
Yes I do KK, but I don't know any Billionaires that want to become Millionaires 🤷🏻♂️
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Which teams have the biggest losses in L1?0
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In fairness I don't think there is a club in the world that wouldn't have been pressured into appointing a club legend as permanent manager after the results he got in those first 10-15 games.mendonca said:Jacko should have been given the caretaker role with a view to a contract at the end of season.That would have shut the fans up and also given the Club/'Owners' a season to see if JJ had more about him than the new Manager purple patch. A club with people who know the game might have done this.2 -
Agree, but the TS narrative that he had a certain date/number of games (I can't remember exactly) put pressure on the situation, so the fans acted upon the fact he was a Club legend, has a nice hair style and we were getting consistent wins (while performing that magic word - pressing).Covered_End_Lad said:
In fairness I don't think there is a club in the world that wouldn't have been pressured into appointing a club legend as permanent manager after the results he got in those first 10-15 games.mendonca said:Jacko should have been given the caretaker role with a view to a contract at the end of season.That would have shut the fans up and also given the Club/'Owners' a season to see if JJ had more about him than the new Manager purple patch. A club with people who know the game might have done this.0 -
Mk dons have had a few big defeats, we usually only lose 1-0.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:Which teams have the biggest losses in L1?
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The Murray way of running the club got us here remember. When he recognised that they did not have the money to run the club he should have sold it in the early 2000s before relegation.soapboxsam said:Ferryman said:
We need to get behind the players to avoid relegationAndyG said:I havent missed a game home or away either at the game or via the stream for years. After this that's it for me until the twat is gone and that is from someone who defended him but this is just plain stupid. I dread to think what the idiot is going to do next.
There is mitigation with the battering our supporters/critics have taken but
unfortunately with our fan base you are more likely to hear "your not fit to wear the shirt" and booing than support to our struggling players.
The fact that Matthew Southall is having the last laugh after Thomas Southall did his best work in seeing off the greedy chancer just makes me sad that the odious pond life that is Southall is enjoying our continuous troubles.
If Richard Murray and Peter Varney tenure was the blue print of how to run a football club and garner support until they fell out then Thomas Sandgaard is the blue print on how not to do it after a good start in seeing off the bad guys. The smell of Roland Duchatelet still lingers over the valley and Sparrows lane with only his demise possibly offering a solution if Roderick Duchatelet is more accommodating.
The catch 22 is who with altruistic reasons would take over a struggling League 1 club with falling attendances in the 2022/23 season in a football world dominated by the elitist Premier league and Champions League ?
There were any number of extremely wealthy people looking to buy into the prem.
That is old history and we need to worry for the now.0
