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Garner Gawn? (Ed. CORRECT - GARNER SACKED p6, and again by Colchester p32)
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With no permanent manager in place and us currently sitting in the bottom 3rd of Division 3, who on earth is going to want to sign for us in January
Jesus, TS is such a fcuking wnaker........1 -
Personally don't think whether theres a permanent manager appointed or not has any bearing on a take-over. It would fo normally, but not on this occasion for me0
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Ali Maxwell not being invited back onto Charlton TV any time soon you'd think!0
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https://www.charltonafc.com/news/fans-forum-notes-december-2022
On pitch"He said in terms of sorting it out on the pitch the club had begun looking to interview candidates when Ben Garner started a public discussion about whether he was backed or not. He said when Garner started the public discussion at that time he crossed a line that, nearly regardless of results, meant he had to go soon after. He said that at that time he set in motion that we needed to replace him. He said that Garner was maybe a little bit immature, getting yellow and red cards on the sidelines and being at the training ground you kind of learn when someone loses the dressing room and that was a perception he had. He said on top of that results were not going Charlton’s way, which was very disappointing"
Might get through quite a few more managers yet...
There's more, linky above for those interested and might have missed it. Basically, Garner shouldn't have gone to the press with lies and slander, but he wasn't just sacked because of that. Or something.0 -
One thought I did have after Wednesdays brilliant win and the plum draw of United away, Garner was the first manager we’ve had in yonks that took the cups seriously. There are fairly few positives to take from his time with us, not all of that’s his fault, but he should get some of the credit for us getting to the quarters of the League Cup.6
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Fair comment Garner was trying to make headway in the cups and does deserve credit for taking them serious by putting as strong a team out as he could.se9addick said:One thought I did have after Wednesdays brilliant win and the plumb draw of United away, Garner was the first manager we’ve had in yonks that took the cups seriously. There are fairly few positives to take from his time with us, not all of that’s his fault, but he should get some of the credit for us getting to the quarters of the League Cup.0 -
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Good luck at Colchester.
A struggling club admittedly, but I believe watching from a distance that they have a decent footballing culture.
At development level Colchester always give us a good game and seem to have a proper approach to football as an enterprise.
I wish him all the best.6 - Sponsored links:
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A decent job for him, as Bloomfield had turned it around before returning to Wycombe1
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I see the usual gobshites already in the replies3
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Didnt really rate him tbh but wish him no ill will as I felt he put alot into it, hope he does well there.1
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Always a dangerous thing to say that you’re speaking for everyone else but on this occasion I think I’d be right in saying that ‘we all’ wish him well, he wasn’t a disliked person.9
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Interesting to see if he’s as popular amongst the players as he was here or at Swindon. They are still in a fight but I have always had a soft spot for them as I used to live nearby so I’ll monitor it2
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Came across as totally up confident in his own ability with little to back it up,always blaming officials and rumours of not being respected by training ground staff due to his attitude towards themSoundAsa£ said:Always a dangerous thing to say that you’re speaking for everyone else but on this occasion I think I’d be right in saying that ‘we all’ wish him well, he wasn’t a disliked person.2 -
I was wondering yesterday where Ben Garner next job would be.
It will be interesting to see if Ben Garner has the players to play his way in League 2 ?
All managers are only as good as the players they have available and if they fit a system of choice from that incumbent.
Exeter improved under Garner and they came close to promotion.
I said after the August window, Ben Garner will be gutted as he doesn't have the players to really play out from the back or strikers, forwards to win matches on a regular basis.
It felt like Ben wasn't backed after the interview; could Thomas Sandgaard have told porkies?
Ben said, it would be difficult to make the top 6 as he realized that the striker who scored a goal every 100 minutes (Aneke) was struggling to play 100 minutes in 3 months.Plus Stockley was struggling big time in the lone central striker role.
I hope Garner does well just like I want Johnnie Jackson to do well. Both are good guys in a harsh results business.5 -
HarshJohnnyH2 said:
Came across as totally up confident in his own ability with little to back it up,always blaming officials and rumours of not being respected by training ground staff due to his attitude towards themSoundAsa£ said:Always a dangerous thing to say that you’re speaking for everyone else but on this occasion I think I’d be right in saying that ‘we all’ wish him well, he wasn’t a disliked person.
he wasnt properly backed and has had to deal with the joke of an owner
i have never read or seen anything about him
not being liked infact i thought he seemed a likeable passionate guy
dont get why people feel the need to hate on players/managers who have left us
good luck to him
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Ben was let down by poor recruitment, as have all our managers been. He started the season with Clayden as his left-back! Not sure Holden is doing much better. Garner seems like a good coach to me, although I hazard to say he has a bit of a chip on his shoulder. The constant public sniping at the ownership may have been true but couldn't have helped the focus and attitude of the players, plus his thing with referees and his famous sending-off antics at The Valley adds up... He's a bit of an oddball.2
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Don't hate him, but had he remained the chances of being relegated would have been higher than they are now.CharltontillidieCOYR said:
HarshJohnnyH2 said:
Came across as totally up confident in his own ability with little to back it up,always blaming officials and rumours of not being respected by training ground staff due to his attitude towards themSoundAsa£ said:Always a dangerous thing to say that you’re speaking for everyone else but on this occasion I think I’d be right in saying that ‘we all’ wish him well, he wasn’t a disliked person.
he wasnt properly backed and has had to deal with the joke of an owner
i have never read or seen anything about him
not being liked infact i thought he seemed a likeable passionate guy
dont get why people feel the need to hate on players/managers who have left us
good luck to him
TS is to blame for everything that is wrong v at our club and that has been the position for a lot longer than when Garner showed up.
But in Football Management you need to use the resources you have, not try and create something the players you have can't do9 -
Good luck to him. Yes the defence d*cked around with the ball a bit too much under his watch, but did feel he was building something and also sensed a bit of defiance with the regime, which I liked very much.2
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The defence were only following the instructions given by the coaching staff. Get the best of what you have with the players you have. If they can’t do it, then don’t try it.Pavoren007 said:Good luck to him. Yes the defence d*cked around with the ball a bit too much under his watch, but did feel he was building something and also sensed a bit of defiance with the regime, which I liked very much.
All the best to him in Essex. Now on his 4th managerial role so plenty of lessons learnt from his other recent roles.2 -
I wasn't very impressed with him. But I wish him no ill will and like most who leave Charlton maybe he'll prove us it was a mistake to let him go2
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I liked him, was building us into a good footballing side, we just didn't have a striker to capitalise on the many many opportunities. That and the defenders weren't quite up to scratch.
He deserved a full season.16 -
Deserved it but unfortunately with our ownership would never have got all the pieces he needed to make a good squad.Dazzler21 said:I liked him, was building us into a good footballing side, we just didn't have a striker to capitalise on the many many opportunities. That and the defenders weren't quite up to scratch.
He deserved a full season.
Outside of 4 games I can't say we've particularly improved as a team.2 -
Was never impressed with him, I have a general dislike of managers who constantly blame officials which he very much did.
I know nothing about Colchester's squad but given where they are you would think playing tippy tappy "total" football could be dangerous for them this season at least.
Hope he succeeds as I like Colchester.0 -
I heard from someone working there he had lost a lot of the dressing room and had no respect from the training ground staff because of the way he treated them.
I would also add that I heard many of the Swindon players were delighted when they lost in the play-off last season because they were fairly sure it would be the end of him. He really wasn't popular. Their fans echoed that sentiment when he joined us too.
I hope it works out for him at Col U4 -
Not sure his footballing philosophy actually matches the leagues he manages in, which is always difficult as how do you prove yourself of a team higher up if you can't get the shite in the lower leagues playing the way you want?
The opposite seems to have worked over the years for the likes of Pulis and Dyche though3
