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Garner Gawn? (Ed. CORRECT - GARNER SACKED p6, and again by Colchester p32)

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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,855
    I wasn't very impressed with him. But I wish him no ill will and like most who leave Charlton maybe he'll prove us it was a mistake to let him go 
    The majority of our former managers are at a lower level or unemployed at the moment...
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,231
    Swisdom said:
    I heard from someone working there he had lost a lot of the dressing room and had no respect from the training ground staff because of the way he treated them.

    I would also add that I heard many of the Swindon players were delighted when they lost in the play-off last season because they were fairly sure it would be the end of him.  He really wasn't popular.  Their fans echoed that sentiment when he joined us too.

    I hope it works out for him at Col U

    Yet Swindon players came to Cafc !

    As you know at football clubs there are different opinions and I find that hard to believe that players don't want to get promoted unless they know they can't play higher and will be moved on. 

    Garner's taking over with with the Roman capital town, 9 points clear of the drop zone; success will be making sure Colchester are about a dozen points clear so not great pressure by football standards but difficult to be too radical at this stage of the season.
  • AllHailTheHen
    AllHailTheHen Posts: 3,063
    edited March 2023
    Can't say I took to Garner as a person as there was always a real air of arrogance about him. That said in a couple of games this season he did serve up some of the most enjoyable football I've seen at The Valley for many a year. Good luck to him.
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,041
    Wish him all the best , don't feel like he was ever properly backed to deliver but produced some excellent performances like the win over Pompey at home. 
  • Karim_myBagheri
    Karim_myBagheri Posts: 12,725
    wish him well. didn't think much of some of his recruiting (hampered) and tactics but he always came across as a half decent bloke if a tad arrogant (have to be in this business). Think personally he might become a decent manager if he can adapt to lower league playing style. 
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,256
    Nailed on Jack Payne being at Colchester next season
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,256
    Can't say I took to Garner as a person as there was always a real air of arrogance about him. That said in a couple of games this season he did serve up some of the most enjoyable football I've seen at The Valley for many a year. Good luck to him.
    I think the bar has been the lowest it’s ever been for context 
  • Good luck to the bloke. He left a good job at Swindon where he was doing well playing good football. Picked up the shitty end of the stick with us and tried too hard to make a silk purse out of a sows ear. Should have just accepted he had a sows ear and adjusted accordingly. He didn’t. Hope he does well and sticks two fingers up at Sandgaard.
  • Was tasked to put on a Michelin star spread with a fridge full of pork pies and scotch eggs. 


  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,027
    Under him, we played some great passing football that was a joy to watch. It's not his fault that we didn't have a goalscorer to capitalise, but we still don't have one and still don't score. The blame for that lies elsewhere. I would like to have seen him be a bit more flexible in approach, particularly when other teams had figured out how to beat us. You can't keep doing the same thing and expecting different results. Unless the quality in your team is so much better than the rest of the division, you have to shake things up a bit. I wonder though whether he felt enabled to do that with the noises TS had made about playing style. It's all water under the bridge now though. I wish him well at Colchester, but priority has to be us getting more points under Holden.   
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  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,013
    cabbles said:
    Nailed on Jack Payne being at Colchester next season
    We can but hope.
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,451
    edited March 2023
    Think people were overly abusive and offensive towards Garner as he was clearly promised the world and then forced to make do with lower League One players that didn't suit his style. 

    He'll continue to do well implementing his style elsewhere as we continue to play poor football with poor quality players. 
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,256
    cabbles said:
    Nailed on Jack Payne being at Colchester next season
    We can but hope.
    We need another huge clear out.  Although, there’s not that many that are under contract now going into next season.  If we’re still left with TS funding us, expect lots of youngsters 
  • Kips
    Kips Posts: 689
    Dazzler21 said:
    I liked him, was building us into a good footballing side, we just didn't have a striker to capitalise on the many many opportunities. That and the defenders weren't quite up to scratch. 

    He deserved a full season. 
    I didn't see what you clearly did under Garner. It seemed like passing for the sake of passing much of the time (mostly in our own half) and our possession usually broke down before it even got to our striker. 

    I do agree with others that Garner wasn't backed sufficiently. If TS had this vision of ripping up JJ's more up and at em style he should have sanctioned an overhaul of players that was needed for Garnerball. Freebies from L2 made up the bulk of our summer business and didn't quite cut the step up.

    Hope it works out for Ben at Col U and that he has learnt from the experience at CAFC. He didn't manage up very well and showed some immaturity at times which is probably why he finds himself back down in L2.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Garner was OK for the most part, I didn’t like it when he got touchline yellow and red cards.
    Bad example.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,855
    seth plum said:
    Garner was OK for the most part, I didn’t like it when he got touchline yellow and red cards.
    Bad example.
    Yes, he came across as a bit immature at times
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,855
    I remember the Not the Top 20 podcasters at the start of the season questioning whether Garner could translate Garnerball from Swindon to Charlton, as at Swindon he had players who were amongst the best in their division, L2, whereas he would be trying to repeat the feat at Charlton with average players in their division, L1
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,855
    Still no win for Garner at Colchester, who are only 3 points above the drop. 
  • Was tasked to put on a Michelin star spread with a fridge full of pork pies and scotch eggs. 


    Pork
    pies that he purchased 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,807
    Unfortunately Garner inherited a squad that fires blanks and he hasn't been able to improve on that - they've only scored 34 goals in 39 League games and just 5 of them have come in the last 10 matches. Ironically, two of those came away to the runaway leaders in the Division, Orient. 
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  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,319
    Unbeaten in 3, showing some grit ;) 
  • Trouble is he is just such a good manager he is too good for them, much like he was for us.  Needs to be managing in the Championship which is where his style and skills lie... 
    Or he is just a bit of a pony whinge bag.
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,501
    Unfortunately Garner inherited a squad that fires blanks and he hasn't been able to improve on that - they've only scored 34 goals in 39 League games and just 5 of them have come in the last 10 matches. Ironically, two of those came away to the runaway leaders in the Division, Orient. 
    We missed out on the striker he wanted and who was his number one target .. bid accepted but joined Huddersfield for 500.000 ,,100,000 more than we agreed . Strange thing he hardly played for them ? Could have been diff if we had signed him 
  • Trouble is he is just such a good manager he is too good for them, much like he was for us.  Needs to be managing in the Championship which is where his style and skills lie... 
    Or he is just a bit of a pony whinge bag.
    I think you are right. Garner needs players who can play how he wants. Not easy with third and fourth tier players. Personally I think he’d be better off getting a coaching roll in The Premier League. 
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,319
    Garnerball has all gone wrong at Colchester. They've only had 39% possession first half vs Crewe
  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 50,974
    Leuth said:
    Garnerball has all gone wrong at Colchester. They've only had 39% possession first half vs Crewe
    But winning 3-0
  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 50,974
    Leuth said:
    Garnerball has all gone wrong at Colchester. They've only had 39% possession first half vs Crewe
    But winning 4-0
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,319
    ;) 
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,319
    Disappointing result for Garner yesterday, only putting 1 past Salford away. Only 6 games unbeaten, gonna be under a lot of pressure
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,154
    I don’t know how we’re surviving without garner