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  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,198
    Gribbo said:
    Professional provocateur vrs a couple, whose new job it seems to be, to give tell tale interviews, without any comeback whatsoever, from those being accused. Upmarket Jeremy Kyle shite

    Has Clarkson got a new book out or something?

    I'm just amazed by the revelation that he can write. I thought he had people do that for him and he just read the autocue.
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    Never liked Clarkson, he’s just not my cup of tea. But it’s clearly an exaggerated comment. The cancel culture and social media pile ons are quickly going to lead us to virtually zero comedy, shock jocks etc and just plain vanilla arts, tv & radio productions, publications

    Personally I think there is a huge difference between genuine and inciteful hate, and exaggerated for reaction, amusement etc 
    Of course it was an exaggerated comment, but this has nothing to do with comedy or bloody ‘cancel culture’. Jeez. 
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,240
    Ita another pile on, again its somebody the more vocal "looks at me I am outraged" segment cant get nuance. Its a pretty graphic use of imagery from scene filmed in a fantasy show and I cant think of many things Jeremy Clarkson has written or said that doesn't involve bums or poo or a fanny. Its puerile and he knows it, I know it and its funny mostly. I didnt think that many supposed liberals read a shitrag like the sun to be directly offended but what do they want? A landscape entirely dominated by extreme left faux-liberlaism (liberalism where anyone who says anything with nuance or they don't agree with must be banned, which sounds slightly fascist to me but whatevs) if you don't like Jeremy Clarkson IGNORE HIM, thenworls is full of beautiful choice, why on earth seek something out that will upset and antagonise you!?!?! 

    I couldn't give a shit either way about Megan Markle or her husband, good for them I suppose but I care not. 

    The same thing happened with Danny Baker. 

    All the while prince nonce and the current government dance around way bigger issues that have been given way less lines of print today
  • Love the term 'cancel culture' when it's never been easier to shout abuse at/towards someone without any repercussions.

    People might see this as Clarkson being Clarkson and of course it fits his image as someone who winds people up and refuses to apologise. Problem is there are some people reading The Sun who aren't so bright or having mental health issues that might think it's a call to arms.



  • Lectured by Millwall fans on what’s racist and what isn’t. Couldn’t make it up. 
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  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,480
    Love the term 'cancel culture' when it's never been easier to shout abuse at/towards someone without any repercussions.

    People might see this as Clarkson being Clarkson and of course it fits his image as someone who winds people up and refuses to apologise. Problem is there are some people reading The Sun who aren't so bright or having mental health issues that might think it's a call to arms.



    Ain't that basically what the Markle's have been doing though? Saying what they want because they know all about the Royals having to follow "protocol"

    Not defending Clarkson btw
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,442
    Gribbo said:
    Love the term 'cancel culture' when it's never been easier to shout abuse at/towards someone without any repercussions.

    People might see this as Clarkson being Clarkson and of course it fits his image as someone who winds people up and refuses to apologise. Problem is there are some people reading The Sun who aren't so bright or having mental health issues that might think it's a call to arms.



    Ain't that basically what the Markle's have been doing though? Saying what they want because they know all about the Royals having to follow "protocol"

    Not defending Clarkson btw
    Probably outweighed by the amount of nutters that legit want them harmed.

    And then the media rags running hit piece after hit piece. 

    It's not half a dozen of one, it's one side significantly outweighing two people in terms of amount of abuse. 
  • This is all a very welcome distraction at the moment for some.
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,480
    Gribbo said:
    Love the term 'cancel culture' when it's never been easier to shout abuse at/towards someone without any repercussions.

    People might see this as Clarkson being Clarkson and of course it fits his image as someone who winds people up and refuses to apologise. Problem is there are some people reading The Sun who aren't so bright or having mental health issues that might think it's a call to arms.



    Ain't that basically what the Markle's have been doing though? Saying what they want because they know all about the Royals having to follow "protocol"

    Not defending Clarkson btw
    Probably outweighed by the amount of nutters that legit want them harmed.

    And then the media rags running hit piece after hit piece. 

    It's not half a dozen of one, it's one side significantly outweighing two people in terms of amount of abuse. 
    Reckon they were fully aware of what was gonna happen once they started with their shenanigans.

    The whole thing was contrived from the start imo
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,329
    clb74 said:
    Chizz said:

    Upon thinking about this ,this afternoon.
    You give him  audience he wants Chizz.
    If this doesn't get posted on here I'm sure a few of us wouldn't be talking about him, I know I wouldn't be.

    On reflection, you're probably right. I've fallen for the trap and I should have known better. After all, it's obvious: if a journalist wants to stir up debate on Charlton Life, all he has to do is soil himself in a Murdoch newspaper. 

    It's known as Rod Littling. 

    I shouldn't have posted that quote on here. That would've shown him. 
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  • Gribbo said:
    Love the term 'cancel culture' when it's never been easier to shout abuse at/towards someone without any repercussions.

    People might see this as Clarkson being Clarkson and of course it fits his image as someone who winds people up and refuses to apologise. Problem is there are some people reading The Sun who aren't so bright or having mental health issues that might think it's a call to arms.



    Ain't that basically what the Markle's have been doing though? Saying what they want because they know all about the Royals having to follow "protocol"

    Not defending Clarkson btw
    Or just giving their side of the story. It's not like the British press is giving them much of an opportunity to defend themselves.

    I have the same conclusion I had before I watched the Netflix series. I don't know them and I don't know any other Royal (pretty sure that Andrew fella is a bit dodgy though) so I don't know what they are really like as people. I'm not going to draw my conclusions from the Mail or The Sun. 

    The hate is way overboard, it's depressing and frightening. 



  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,254
    I think Meghan and Harry have invited a lot of criticism in by going so public with their disdain at how they were treated by the royal family.  For what it’s worth, I think they have highlighted that there is probably an element of institutional racism, and I am very much in Harry’s corner when it comes to understanding why he hates the  British media, he sees them (quite rightly), as responsible for the death of his mother.

    I don’t think what they are doing with regards to the Netflix doc is called for, and by using that channel, people do have a right to voice more of an opinion than perhaps they would had they dealt with it discreetly and as a family.  

    However, for whatever reason, Meghan has seemed to incite some uncontrollable level of hatred in men and women like Clarkson, which to me as a non interested bystander, is utterly bizarre.  He might have wrote what he wrote as ‘tongue in cheek’, but in a world where recent events have thrown up such things as the death of Sarah Everhard, is it really okay to talk about a woman walking naked in the streets and have excrement at her?

    I’m not a petrol head so I never watched top gear, which is where I assumed he established his reputation.  To me, this is a window into a man that is a bit of a **** but it’s okay to be like this because he’s telling it how he thinks it is, and you know, it’s all a bit of harmless fun, we can all have laugh etc.  I do wonder how he would react had someone written in article that his daughter should be made to walk naked through the street and had excrement hurled at her, because their hatred knows no bounds.  
  • R0TW
    R0TW Posts: 1,673
    Lectured by Millwall fans on what’s racist and what isn’t. Couldn’t make it up. 
    Ever go Charlton in the 70s/80s?
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    edited December 2022
    cabbles said:

    I don’t think what they are doing with regards to the Netflix doc is called for,, 
    So in their shoes what would you to to counter all the vitriol that’s appeared in the Mail, The Sun and other tabloids then? If you don’t counter it then people will only think it’s because it’s all true. And in their position it does matter. 
    I applaud them for their stance, as did Caroline Flack’s mum on LBC today. As Harry said, if they can’t attempt to fight back, how can anyone without their means hope to do so.
    The press get away with sh1t. I’ve personally witnessed them making up stories during their vendetta against Diana. Scum of the earth, don’t believe a word they say. 
    Rant over. 
  • JamesSeed said:
    cabbles said:

    I don’t think what they are doing with regards to the Netflix doc is called for,, 
    So in their shoes what would you to to counter all the vitriol that’s appeared in the Mail, The Sun and other tabloids then? If you don’t counter it then people will only think it’s because it’s all true. And in their position it does matter. 
    I applaud them for their stance, as did Caroline Flack’s mum on LBC today. As Harry said, if they can’t attempt to fight back, how can anyone without their means hope to do so.
    The press get away with sh1t. I’ve personally witnessed them making up stories during their vendetta against Diana. Scum of the earth, don’t believe a word they say. 
    Rant over. 
    Heard Caroline Flack's mum on there earlier, it was heartbreaking. 

    Hopefully people will stop buying these awful papers soon, but living in Kent and seeing the amount of people who read them means I won't hold my breath. 
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,347
    She's a fucking wrongun!
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,254
    JamesSeed said:
    cabbles said:

    I don’t think what they are doing with regards to the Netflix doc is called for,, 
    So in their shoes what would you to to counter all the vitriol that’s appeared in the Mail, The Sun and other tabloids then? If you don’t counter it then people will only think it’s because it’s all true. And in their position it does matter. 
    I applaud them for their stance, as did Caroline Flack’s mum on LBC today. As Harry said, if they can’t attempt to fight back, how can anyone without their means hope to do so.
    The press get away with sh1t. I’ve personally witnessed them making up stories during their vendetta against Diana. Scum of the earth, don’t believe a word they say. 
    Rant over. 
    Them doing a doc is going to do nothing to change the opinion of the unwashed masses and imo, it’s probably going to do them more harm than good.  Those of a reasonable level of intellect aren’t influenced by what they see in the tabloid press.  Those that are, are so thick or full of hatred that they’re simply not worth caring about what their thoughts are.

    I agree with their feelings about the media and they’re perfectly within their right to make a stance, I just don’t see how it helps.  We live in a cesspit of society when it comes to the tabloid media and how they stir things up.  I think if they had just decided to leave and go about their lives independently of the royal family in LA, without making a doc, that would’ve been just as much a stance.  
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,981
    Disgusting narrative, even if he was referring to the Game of Thrones scene and it was his attempt at humour.
    Mind you he's rude/offensive to nearly everyone, so at least Meghan should take solace knowing that. 
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,827
    And finally, in todays news:

    I was shocked today, as a shock journalist posted shocking words in his shock column, causing people to be shocked. 

    This shocking event shocked everyone apart from the writer who got the exact reaction as intended 
  • WSS
    WSS Posts: 25,070
    R0TW said:
    Lectured by Millwall fans on what’s racist and what isn’t. Couldn’t make it up. 
    Ever go Charlton in the 70s/80s?
    90s/00s/10s/20s
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  • Redskin
    Redskin Posts: 3,112
    Lectured by Millwall fans on what’s racist and what isn’t. Couldn’t make it up. 
    You could if you wanted to while wilfully ignoring the Charlton fans who were imprisoned for for singing songs that celebrated the murder of Stephen Lawrence.
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,168
    edited December 2022
    Clarkson’s a complete bell end, and I hate his politics, but he does make entertaining TV, in my opinion. 

    The whole M&H saga I couldn’t care less about, equally the royal family general. None of it has any relevance to my life. 

    It’s all self feeding though. M&H, or other similar characters, do something for Clarkson, Morgan etc. to get faux outraged about, in turn M&H can get all offended by the outrage, which fuels more outrage. 

    Only way to kill it is to ignore it, and definitely don’t click on the links, or write any tweets about it. Sadly it’s a shitty phase western humanity is in. Hopefully it’ll pass once the climate wars start and we have something genuine to worry about. 
  • IAgree
    IAgree Posts: 1,839
    I like most of his TV but this comment was plain old vile - He must have been aware of the likely reaction and his apology makes it sound as if he was surprised.

    Still France lost on penalties 😂 😂 😂 😂!
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    She's a fucking wrongun!
    Oh apologies, I didn’t know you’d met her. 
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    cabbles said:
    JamesSeed said:
    cabbles said:

    I don’t think what they are doing with regards to the Netflix doc is called for,, 
    So in their shoes what would you to to counter all the vitriol that’s appeared in the Mail, The Sun and other tabloids then? If you don’t counter it then people will only think it’s because it’s all true. And in their position it does matter. 
    I applaud them for their stance, as did Caroline Flack’s mum on LBC today. As Harry said, if they can’t attempt to fight back, how can anyone without their means hope to do so.
    The press get away with sh1t. I’ve personally witnessed them making up stories during their vendetta against Diana. Scum of the earth, don’t believe a word they say. 
    Rant over. 
    Them doing a doc is going to do nothing to change the opinion of the unwashed masses and imo, it’s probably going to do them more harm than good.  Those of a reasonable level of intellect aren’t influenced by what they see in the tabloid press.  Those that are, are so thick or full of hatred that they’re simply not worth caring about what their thoughts are.

    I agree with their feelings about the media and they’re perfectly within their right to make a stance, I just don’t see how it helps.  We live in a cesspit of society when it comes to the tabloid media and how they stir things up.  I think if they had just decided to leave and go about their lives independently of the royal family in LA, without making a doc, that would’ve been just as much a stance.  
    It helps because it sets the record straight. Because of who he is, it has to be done. No one remembers silence. 
    But I agree, some people who’ve made up their minds already won’t change them now, but it doesn’t really matter.
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,664
    Not sure what would be funnier 

    Clarkson or M&H buying Charlton. 
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,480
    Gribbo said:
    Love the term 'cancel culture' when it's never been easier to shout abuse at/towards someone without any repercussions.

    People might see this as Clarkson being Clarkson and of course it fits his image as someone who winds people up and refuses to apologise. Problem is there are some people reading The Sun who aren't so bright or having mental health issues that might think it's a call to arms.



    Ain't that basically what the Markle's have been doing though? Saying what they want because they know all about the Royals having to follow "protocol"

    Not defending Clarkson btw
    Or just giving their side of the story. It's not like the British press is giving them much of an opportunity to defend themselves.

    I have the same conclusion I had before I watched the Netflix series. I don't know them and I don't know any other Royal (pretty sure that Andrew fella is a bit dodgy though) so I don't know what they are really like as people. I'm not going to draw my conclusions from the Mail or The Sun. 

    The hate is way overboard, it's depressing and frightening. 



    Completely irrelevant whether the British press are giving them an opportunity imo. Although, we don't actually know that is the case, as it seems they’ve just chosen to go to the highest bidder to get maximum exposure, and that happens to be in the State side. Just looking at the trailers for the interviews, you can see how stage managed it all is. Reckon it was completely contrived from the start on her part.

    Echo your point regarding the hate though. The British Royals have suffered it for years, and she's basically adding to it while going unchallenged for the moment.
  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,864
    Not sure what would be funnier 

    Clarkson or M&H buying Charlton. 

    Imagine Clarkson goes on talking pints with nigel farage while wearing a viglen away kit Charlton shirt!

    Stranger things have happened 

    Harry and meg would use the Charlton brand to moan more on another documentary 
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,329
    Dave2l said:
    Not sure what would be funnier 

    Clarkson or M&H buying Charlton. 

    Imagine Clarkson goes on talking pints with nigel farage while wearing a viglen away kit Charlton shirt!

    Stranger things have happened 

    Harry and meg would use the Charlton brand to moan more on another documentary 
    I don't think Harry is ever likely to be a Charlton fan... 


  • JohnnyH2
    JohnnyH2 Posts: 5,341
    Redskin said:
    Lectured by Millwall fans on what’s racist and what isn’t. Couldn’t make it up. 
    You could if you wanted to while wilfully ignoring the Charlton fans who were imprisoned for for singing songs that celebrated the murder of Stephen Lawrence.
    And now back at games