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January Transfer Window - Jan 2023 (Deadline Day starts page 112)

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  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,359
    Clutching at straws there pal. Rangers, Celtic champ level. 
    Purringtons team won 4 from 22 games. League 2 level!
  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,359
    edited January 2023
    We have a decent base at the moment and I don’t want to add players like Purrington to the squad. We have to be aiming higher. More Sess type signings less Purr pls Charlton
  • _nam11
    _nam11 Posts: 1,231
    Cafc43v3r said:
    _nam11 said:
    RE:- sending Kane back.

    I could be wrong, but I thought loans could not be terminated until 28 days of the registration has lapsed unless;
    a) it was agreed by both parties, by way of a recall clause 
    b) the league may grant it, if agreed by both clubs if the player cannot fulfil the rest of the term due to injury (May/June).
    How did we get AMB back?  
    Goalkeepers are able to be called back at any time providing it gets sign off from the league for extreme cases, or the parent club has only one professional keeper registered.
  • mart77
    mart77 Posts: 5,658
    Redhenry said:
    We have a decent base at the moment and I don’t want to add players like Purrington to the squad. We have to be aiming higher. More Sess type signings less Purr pls Charlton
    Nothing suggests we have the money to sign the likes of Sess going forward though sadly. We might get some prospects on loan like JRS but without decentish money backing us we’ll struggle for stability. 
  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,359
    We can only hope
  • Richard J said:
    I shouldn't really post this because I don't believe it and the source is unreliable.


     Acworth saying that we are in for Danny Rose. Well at least he is an out of contact left back.
    What do you mean, the source is unreliable?
    If you can't trust royalty, who can you trust?
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,168
    Redhenry said:
    I had a beer with Andy Scott a few times when I lived in Brentwood, just saying 😀

  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,763
    edited January 2023
    https://www.charltonafc.com/news/holden-issues-update-kane-and-sessegnon

    Asked if the two setbacks have impacted the club’s transfer plans, Holden said: “We’ve been looking for someone in that position (left-back) for a while now. It’s not easy because you think there’s one close and then things change all the time. I forgot how mad this was at my previous job when I was at Bristol City.”

    No prizes for guessing the left back he's referring to.
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    edited January 2023
    have to admit I'm not really that bothered about this transfer window. Relegation very unlikely as is promotion. Just want to hang on to Leaburn, Ness, Fraser & Dobbo and if we can bring in a couple like Todd (point to prove, out of contract in the summer, take a good look at them now) then great. The summer will be a big rebuilding exercise.

    Of greater importance now is who will be owning us and what their ambition is.
    Might need to give the first two a pay rise, as Fraser is paid 15x what they are. 
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    Redhenry said:
    JamesSeed said:
    Redhenry said:
    Leuth said:
    I'm not unhappy Purrington isn't still with us. He offered little going forward (except when he decided to literally play striker) and defensively I felt he stood off his man a bit too much. He, Washington and Gilbey also gave me a certain self-pitying vibe which I can't quite fully explain. He'd have been preferable to Clayden, Clare or Chin in the position, for sure, but then we should never have had to play any of those at left-back
    Purrington was league 2 at best!
    Equaliser in the playoff final. Legendary status!
    I suspect we’d have a few more points on the board if he’d been available this season. But yes, it’d be good to have better for sure. 
    Jeez! I used to sigh, every time I saw his name on teamsheet, Sess is miles above his level
    Agreed. But Purrington is better than Chin or Clayden. 
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  • Redhenry said:
    I had a beer with Andy Scott a few times when I lived in Brentwood, just saying 😀
    And ? 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    JonT_Abs said:
    I've not got unrealistic hopes about the playoffs ..I just want to enjoy watching games without clear weaknesses in the lineup that will handicap the performance. 

    Jackson stuck with wing banks till the end last season (when he didn't have any) and it wasn't pretty, in my opinion, even when we were playing for nothing.  

    Naively I thought a LB was such an urgent priority that there would be at least one (didn't have to be a good one) lined up in the first week of Jan. Alas not, we brought in a right back in mid Jan. 

    Injuries happen but it feels like we've got so used to workarounds I can't remember if this is normal or not. 
    We know we’ve been after Edun but it’s not completely under our control. Clubs, agents and players want the best deal, clubs decide when they let players go etc. Better to wait for the right player than just sign a player because he’s available on January 1st.
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    I started the year thinking that we had turned a corner & that I could trust what people (aka Andy Scott) said. 

    I'm afraid to say that another transfer window is passing us by and that everyone in charge at CAFC lies with gay abandon. To this end Andy Scott is no different to Gallen/Sandgaard or Southall.

    All talk and no action.

    Gah.............I'm done  !
    I stopped expecting new faces at the club when Airman said we will only be bringing in loans and free agents. It was obvious the new lot sniffing around have no money.


  • CafcWest
    CafcWest Posts: 6,167
    Scoham said:
    JonT_Abs said:
    I've not got unrealistic hopes about the playoffs ..I just want to enjoy watching games without clear weaknesses in the lineup that will handicap the performance. 

    Jackson stuck with wing banks till the end last season (when he didn't have any) and it wasn't pretty, in my opinion, even when we were playing for nothing.  

    Naively I thought a LB was such an urgent priority that there would be at least one (didn't have to be a good one) lined up in the first week of Jan. Alas not, we brought in a right back in mid Jan. 

    Injuries happen but it feels like we've got so used to workarounds I can't remember if this is normal or not. 
    We know we’ve been after Edun but it’s not completely under our control. Clubs, agents and players want the best deal, clubs decide when they let players go etc. Better to wait for the right player than just sign a player because he’s available on January 1st.
    It’s why most business is done late - especially in January.  To use a house buying analogy it’s a bit like a chain of buyers when all clubs need to have replacements lined up before players can be let go and chains can be completed.
  • supaclive
    supaclive Posts: 6,514
    No. Most business is not done late by an organised club, with clearly identified targets, a budget to work with and a strategy 

    We've sadly had none of this since 2018.

    We've also not had our own, proper left back since May!  
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    What happens here? Can we cancel the loan? Pointless him being with us if true. 
    Wow !

    When JFC did his ACL (for the 2nd time) we renewed his contract for A WHOLE YEAR and he was out for 9 months of that.

    Double standards methinks.

    (This is to all those who disagreed with me when I said we shouldn't have renewed it)

    Yes.....JFC was our player whereas Kane isn't blah blah blah.

    Same difference in my book. Got injured on our watch. 
     
    JFC was injured doing his job, playing for CAFC. By any common standards of decency he had to be offered a new contract , if only for a year to recover. I bet it was a basic salary, just so he keep going financially . If you want to treat people by throwing injured players on the scrapheap it would be going back to Victorian times of wicked mill/mine owners, women dying of fossi jaw making matches and sending children up chimneys. Also hat makers going mad from mercury poisoning.

    This is not directed at anyone just stating that CAFC needed to take care of employees
    The worst thing it would have done, IMO, is prove Lyle Taylor right.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    _nam11 said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    _nam11 said:
    RE:- sending Kane back.

    I could be wrong, but I thought loans could not be terminated until 28 days of the registration has lapsed unless;
    a) it was agreed by both parties, by way of a recall clause 
    b) the league may grant it, if agreed by both clubs if the player cannot fulfil the rest of the term due to injury (May/June).
    How did we get AMB back?  
    Goalkeepers are able to be called back at any time providing it gets sign off from the league for extreme cases, or the parent club has only one professional keeper registered.
    That wasn't the case when he came back though.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    supaclive said:
    No. Most business is not done late by an organised club, with clearly identified targets, a budget to work with and a strategy 

    We've sadly had none of this since 2018.

    We've also not had our own, proper left back since May!  
    I can't remember the last time we owned a proper, really good left back.  Page was good but always injured.  Possibly as far back as Wiggins, although I have probably forgotten someone.

    Before we signed Purrington in 18/19 we were losing/not winning games because we didn't have a left back.  Once we signed him we had a much more balanced back four.  He got a reputation as a solid 7/10 every game he played. 

    You don't need a world beating 1-11 to do well.  You need an average of about 7.5 in every position with some 9s, hopefully a 10, and no one under a 6.  A Purrington is exactly what we need.  Unless we can find the mext Ashley Cole.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,559
    JamesSeed said:
    have to admit I'm not really that bothered about this transfer window. Relegation very unlikely as is promotion. Just want to hang on to Leaburn, Ness, Fraser & Dobbo and if we can bring in a couple like Todd (point to prove, out of contract in the summer, take a good look at them now) then great. The summer will be a big rebuilding exercise.

    Of greater importance now is who will be owning us and what their ambition is.
    Might need to give the first two a pay rise, as Fraser is paid 15x what they are. 
    I’ll bite. So if Miles is on £500 a week Fraser is on £7,500 a week? If Miles is on less than that we have no chance if a big club comes calling.
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,521
    edited January 2023
    JamesSeed said:
    have to admit I'm not really that bothered about this transfer window. Relegation very unlikely as is promotion. Just want to hang on to Leaburn, Ness, Fraser & Dobbo and if we can bring in a couple like Todd (point to prove, out of contract in the summer, take a good look at them now) then great. The summer will be a big rebuilding exercise.

    Of greater importance now is who will be owning us and what their ambition is.
    Might need to give the first two a pay rise, as Fraser is paid 15x what they are. 
    I’ll bite. So if Miles is on £500 a week Fraser is on £7,500 a week? If Miles is on less than that we have no chance if a big club comes calling.
    True according to this. Apologies if already posted on here but I haven’t come across it. 

    https://salarysport.com/football/sky-bet-league-one/charlton-athletic/

    Though I reckon it is not fully up to date. 

    Imagine the issues that could cause in a dressing room if it’s anything remotely close to being accurate. 
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  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    Ness and Miles might need a salary bump pdq. 
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,559
    JamesSeed said:
    have to admit I'm not really that bothered about this transfer window. Relegation very unlikely as is promotion. Just want to hang on to Leaburn, Ness, Fraser & Dobbo and if we can bring in a couple like Todd (point to prove, out of contract in the summer, take a good look at them now) then great. The summer will be a big rebuilding exercise.

    Of greater importance now is who will be owning us and what their ambition is.
    Might need to give the first two a pay rise, as Fraser is paid 15x what they are. 
    I’ll bite. So if Miles is on £500 a week Fraser is on £7,500 a week? If Miles is on less than that we have no chance if a big club comes calling.
    True according to this. Apologies if already posted on here but I haven’t come across it. 

    https://salarysport.com/football/sky-bet-league-one/charlton-athletic/

    Though I reckon it is not fully up to date. 

    Imagine the issues that could cause in a dressing room if it’s anything remotely close to being accurate. 
    Bet Ryan Inniss ain’t happy either
  • supaclive
    supaclive Posts: 6,514
    Kirk, Payne, McGrandles.....

    Sheesh
  • Major
    Major Posts: 1,026
    supaclive said:
    No. Most business is not done late by an organised club, with clearly identified targets, a budget to work with and a strategy 

    We've sadly had none of this since 2018.

    We've also not had our own, proper left back since May!  
    May? My memory's going. Where did we get him from?
  • Trouble is everyone knew Kane had a poor injury record….it blows my mind we signed him. If we’re finically up against it you don’t sign people who have the chance of not playing for months. Why even risk it? (Unless we’re paying minimal wages) Then again we have the same recruitment team in place who resigned Aneke when he was constantly injured at Birmingham 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,763
    edited January 2023
    Trouble is everyone knew Kane had a poor injury record….it blows my mind we signed him. If we’re finically up against it you don’t sign people who have the chance of not playing for months. Why even risk it? (Unless we’re paying minimal wages) Then again we have the same recruitment team in place who resigned Aneke when he was constantly injured at Birmingham 
    He’s had one significant injury 7 years ago and hardly any time out with injury since then according to this link below. None since 2018.

    https://www.transfermarkt.us/todd-kane/verletzungen/spieler/154287
  • We should count ourselves lucky that TS has been paying our wages on time…not like Wigan see news about to break (3 points deduction coming up) for 3 late payments of wages last year https://www.efl.com/contentassets/2360941774f04705bf2c384b511bca04/efl--wigan-athletic---agreed-decision.pdf
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 22,506
    edited January 2023
    Major said:
    supaclive said:
    No. Most business is not done late by an organised club, with clearly identified targets, a budget to work with and a strategy 

    We've sadly had none of this since 2018.

    We've also not had our own, proper left back since May!  
    May? My memory's going. Where did we get him from?
    Came in after April, just before June if you remember... ;)
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    We should count ourselves lucky that TS has been paying our wages on time…not like Wigan see news about to break (3 points deduction coming up) for 3 late payments of wages last year https://www.efl.com/contentassets/2360941774f04705bf2c384b511bca04/efl--wigan-athletic---agreed-decision.pdf
    Suspended 3 point deduction.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    supaclive said:
    No. Most business is not done late by an organised club, with clearly identified targets, a budget to work with and a strategy 

    We've sadly had none of this since 2018.

    We've also not had our own, proper left back since May!  
    Even the most organised club can’t control what other clubs, players and agents are doing. Some signings have to wait even if you’ve got plenty of money to spend. We made late signings under Powell and Bowyer when we were doing well, Cort, Cullen etc. The top 6 will make some late signings in this window, that doesn’t mean they aren’t organised.

    I haven’t been impressed by the way Sandgaard is running the club but the problem isn’t not having a strategy and targets, it’s who’s coming up with the strategy and how they identify our targets.