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POST-MATCH THREAD: Plymouth Argyle V Charlton Athletic | Saturday 4th March 2023 | KO 3.00 Pm
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Look no further than Sandgaard if you want to find someone to blame for our current fiasco of a club, Holden is the cement trying to keep things together in an absolute vacuum, not knowing what is happening from one day to the next with regard to ownership or trying to plan for next season, and doing as good a job as he could be expected to do given the "players" at his disposal..Jayajosh said:I’ve lost patience with Holden and his team selections and Bonne getting all that game time without any end product. The late substitutions are doing my head in too especially when it’s so obvious from first half performances that we’re never going to hit the target let alone score. I can see why there is a ‘love in’ for Holden though because he does look the part with his new trainers and fashionable crew necks, but for me I think he’s out of his depth.7 -
Here's hoping our down to earth northern say it as it is head coach was not too diplomatic with that shower of shite excuse for a Charlton team.2
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anyone thinking we have three easy games coming up are going to be in for a shock. Accrington for example drew at home today to Bolton who a few weeks ago gave us a right runaround. We are also relying on two youngsters, in Leaburn and Kanu, to score our goals. One, Leaburn, should at best have been a bit part player this season whilst Kanu should really be on loan at National League level learning his trade. I don’t think we will finish any higher than we are currently and possibly a bit lower. Five points from the next three games is the minimum required, any less and we will be bang in trouble.
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Getting too old for these missions.0
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Seven words that have been seen as a challenge to Charlton Athletic football teams of all eras, and not in a good way!LargeAddick said:anyone thinking we have three easy games coming up are going to be in for a shock. Accrington for example drew at home today to Bolton who a few weeks ago gave us a right runaround. We are also relying on two youngsters, in Leaburn and Kanu, to score our goals. One, Leaburn, should at best have been a bit part player this season whilst Kanu should really be on loan at National League level learning his trade. I don’t think we will finish any higher than we are currently and possibly a bit lower. Five points from the next three games is the minimum required, any less and we will be bang in trouble.1 -
No they did not, Bolton drew with Morecambe. Accrington beat FGR 2-1, with FGR down to 10 menLargeAddick said:anyone thinking we have three easy games coming up are going to be in for a shock. Accrington for example drew at home today to Bolton who a few weeks ago gave us a right runaround. We are also relying on two youngsters, in Leaburn and Kanu, to score our goals. One, Leaburn, should at best have been a bit part player this season whilst Kanu should really be on loan at National League level learning his trade. I don’t think we will finish any higher than we are currently and possibly a bit lower. Five points from the next three games is the minimum required, any less and we will be bang in trouble.1 -
After FGR took the lead.ross1 said:
No they did not, Bolton drew with Morecambe. Accrington beat FGR 2-1, with FGR down to 10 menLargeAddick said:anyone thinking we have three easy games coming up are going to be in for a shock. Accrington for example drew at home today to Bolton who a few weeks ago gave us a right runaround. We are also relying on two youngsters, in Leaburn and Kanu, to score our goals. One, Leaburn, should at best have been a bit part player this season whilst Kanu should really be on loan at National League level learning his trade. I don’t think we will finish any higher than we are currently and possibly a bit lower. Five points from the next three games is the minimum required, any less and we will be bang in trouble.
You know how many games it's been since we've done that.......
35.
35 times we have conceded first & then not managed to win. And it was another 30 odd before that. Once in around 70 games since we got relegated in 2020.
No surprise that when we concede first we might as well all just pack up & go home. This team, as well as many others before them, just have no fight. Helps to have strikers that can score of course. Also helps if you can get some shots on target too. None today I believe. Wont win too many matches with those sort of stats.7 -
Given the incompetent owners we’ve been subjected to since RD arrived, excluding the minor miracle Bowyer achieved in 2018/19, we’re reaping what they have sowed. Nothing will change until we get an owner that is competent. That doesn’t mean an owner with lots of money. Both RD and TS have spent money. Ignore Southall, Nimer, Farnell & Methven. They’re simply crooks or chancers.
The only thing I have to add re: the playing squad, is that we’re too nice a fan base. To me, it feels like we’ve been starved by our owners and the current product on the pitch is the equivalent of being fed gruel. We’ve been so long conditioned to accept crap football, I’ve reached the point where I can’t understand why people on here try to see the best in what is a constant stream of **** for years now.The facts don’t lie. Let’s call it how it is, even the likes of Sean Clare are crap players, but we’ve been exposed to even crapper players, that we somehow have tried to offer someone like him up as potentially part of a promotion team if they had better players around them. Remember Gilbey. The amount of comments I used to read about his potential. Morgan. The list goes on. Let’s be honest, Fraser and Blackett Taylor are crap. They are. If they weren’t crap, they wouldn’t be here. Yet these are the sorts of players that fit the ‘I think we can build a team around them, they just need better around them’
If people want to go on believing any of the current squad are capable of promotion, you’re buying your head so far in the sand you’re drowning32 -
How did Ness manage to do that in a pro game. It's like we made up how to kickoff and got feet caught unaware.0
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Take a bow sir, post of the weekcabbles said:Given the incompetent owners we’ve been subjected to since RD arrived, excluding the minor miracle Bowyer achieved in 2018/19, we’re reaping what they have sowed. Nothing will change until we get an owner that is competent. That doesn’t mean an owner with lots of money. Both RD and TS have spent money. Ignore Southall, Nimer, Farnell & Methven. They’re simply crooks or chancers.
The only thing I have to add re: the playing squad, is that we’re too nice a fan base. To me, it feels like we’ve been starved by our owners and the current product on the pitch is the equivalent of being fed gruel. We’ve been so long conditioned to accept crap football, I’ve reached the point where I can’t understand why people on here try to see the best in what is a constant stream of **** for years now.The facts don’t lie. Let’s call it how it is, even the likes of Sean Clare are crap players, but we’ve been exposed to even crapper players, that we somehow have tried to offer someone like him up as potentially part of a promotion team if they had better players around them. Remember Gilbey. The amount of comments I used to read about his potential. Morgan. The list goes on. Let’s be honest, Fraser and Blackett Taylor are crap. They are. If they weren’t crap, they wouldn’t be here. Yet these are the sorts of players that fit the ‘I think we can build a team around them, they just need better around them’
If people want to go on believing any of the current squad are capable of promotion, you’re buying your head so far in the sand you’re drowning6 - Sponsored links:
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Apart from unhappy, what was our Charlton away following today?0
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650 I heardMendonca In Asdas said:Apart from unhappy, what was our Charlton away following today?2 -
Let’s be honest the players read this forum. All I can say is my god, you are part of the WORST squad this club has had in 30 years…….,6
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Go back a few games when we'd just won five of the previous seven games, it all seemed to be improving (although I didn't think we played very well in any of the games, really).cabbles said:Given the incompetent owners we’ve been subjected to since RD arrived, excluding the minor miracle Bowyer achieved in 2018/19, we’re reaping what they have sowed. Nothing will change until we get an owner that is competent. That doesn’t mean an owner with lots of money. Both RD and TS have spent money. Ignore Southall, Nimer, Farnell & Methven. They’re simply crooks or chancers.
The only thing I have to add re: the playing squad, is that we’re too nice a fan base. To me, it feels like we’ve been starved by our owners and the current product on the pitch is the equivalent of being fed gruel. We’ve been so long conditioned to accept crap football, I’ve reached the point where I can’t understand why people on here try to see the best in what is a constant stream of **** for years now.The facts don’t lie. Let’s call it how it is, even the likes of Sean Clare are crap players, but we’ve been exposed to even crapper players, that we somehow have tried to offer someone like him up as potentially part of a promotion team if they had better players around them. Remember Gilbey. The amount of comments I used to read about his potential. Morgan. The list goes on. Let’s be honest, Fraser and Blackett Taylor are crap. They are. If they weren’t crap, they wouldn’t be here. Yet these are the sorts of players that fit the ‘I think we can build a team around them, they just need better around them’
If people want to go on believing any of the current squad are capable of promotion, you’re buying your head so far in the sand you’re drowning
Now it's all doom and gloom (understandably) and the list of player posters want retained for next season has shortened considerably.
For Cabbles it's none. Bit OTT, but I get the anger.
There may be one or two writing off Ness because of the error today. Bit harsh, and I'm pretty sure he'll be moving on in the summer, and not downwards.
Despite the last few games I'm still not totally down with the entire squad. I'm ok with AMB, Egbo, Ness, Leaburn and Dobson. I'd also keep Hector if that was an option. And Clare and Inniss as squad players. It's the midfield and upfront where we need a total rebuild. Players like CBT are great on their day, but frustratingly inconsistent.
I though we were ok for the first 30 minutes, but it seemed to dawn on the players around that time that despite all their efforts they'd got nowhere near creating a chance. Things started to go downhill from there.
Another games passes by without a single shot on target.
In the words of our recent glorious leader: 'That Is A Disgrace!'4 -
So so bored of it all now. Bonne is a disgrace of a footballer. We are so weal, predictable, clueless, set pieces shitSeriously when do we start talking about protests because this is horrendous every week and will only get worse next season.0
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12 games without a striker scoring
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Protests are fine if they have a purpose, but Sandgaard is clearly desperate to sell the club already, so what would the message be?charltonman2016 said:So so bored of it all now. Bonne is a disgrace of a footballer. We are so weal, predictable, clueless, set pieces shitSeriously when do we start talking about protests because this is horrendous every week and will only get worse next season.
My issue is that players don't want to stay at a club that's in freefall, where they regularly get booed off the pitch. So far the support has been incredible under the circumstances, but increasing the toxicity may just have a negative impact on everything.
I could be wrong of course, and I certainly understand the frustration.2 -
Not booooing hasn’t worked
lets boooo this bunch of shit1 -
We Need a Proper dedicated Owner with Money. And we need a Proper Striker who knows how to score Goals.
our Owner is an egotistical Lier who is destroying our wonderful Football Club.
we also seem to attract interest from skint fraudsters and Egotistical Conmen.
it’s time our famous Old Club had decent owners
and Players who know how to get us promotion.
I Think our new manager is the Only positive
part of our Club, apart from the Loyal suffering Fans. but unless he is backed properly he will eventually WALK 👎.0 -
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Totally agree, indeed I think we will stay up comfortably. It’s still tight point wise around the middle of the table, and we’ve just had a very hard run of games.blackpool72 said:Battled hard first half
Got done by a huge mistake straight after the second half started.
Despite not scoring in our last 4 games I still believe we will stay up.
My biggest concern is if the guitar playing Wankpuffin is still our owner next season.
Because if he is we are in for another season of abject misery.
But yep, all that does not matter, as we will be in the same position or worse next season unless something changes.
Sandguard Out Out Out !!!!
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Come down here hoping for more but being honest got exactly what i expected
Just leaving for home now thinking that's me with away game's
not going to make all this effort for a team that look like they can't be arsed half the time so home games only here on in
Everyone going on about owners to blame but these players have got more in them then they are giving us that's the hardest bit to take1 -
I get that it might come across as ott, but putting aside pockets of games (Jackson’s time as interim manager, I think it the 7 games unbeaten, then Garner’s 3 wins in a row and then Holden’s 3 wins in a row), the statistics are damning. That’s 13 games across 2 seasons. This backs up my point.JamesSeed said:
Go back a few games when we'd just won five of the previous seven games, it all seemed to be improving (although I didn't think we played very well in any of the games, really).cabbles said:Given the incompetent owners we’ve been subjected to since RD arrived, excluding the minor miracle Bowyer achieved in 2018/19, we’re reaping what they have sowed. Nothing will change until we get an owner that is competent. That doesn’t mean an owner with lots of money. Both RD and TS have spent money. Ignore Southall, Nimer, Farnell & Methven. They’re simply crooks or chancers.
The only thing I have to add re: the playing squad, is that we’re too nice a fan base. To me, it feels like we’ve been starved by our owners and the current product on the pitch is the equivalent of being fed gruel. We’ve been so long conditioned to accept crap football, I’ve reached the point where I can’t understand why people on here try to see the best in what is a constant stream of **** for years now.The facts don’t lie. Let’s call it how it is, even the likes of Sean Clare are crap players, but we’ve been exposed to even crapper players, that we somehow have tried to offer someone like him up as potentially part of a promotion team if they had better players around them. Remember Gilbey. The amount of comments I used to read about his potential. Morgan. The list goes on. Let’s be honest, Fraser and Blackett Taylor are crap. They are. If they weren’t crap, they wouldn’t be here. Yet these are the sorts of players that fit the ‘I think we can build a team around them, they just need better around them’
If people want to go on believing any of the current squad are capable of promotion, you’re buying your head so far in the sand you’re drowning
Now it's all doom and gloom (understandably) and the list of player posters want retained for next season has shortened considerably.
For Cabbles it's none. Bit OTT, but I get the anger.
There'll be some writing off Ness because of the error today. Bit harsh, and I'm pretty sure he'll be moving on in the summer, and not downwards.
Despite the last few games I'm still ok with AMB, Egbo, Ness, Leaburn and Dobson. I'd also keep Hector if that was an option. And Inniss as a squad player. It's the midfield and upfront where we need a total rebuild.
I though we were ok for the first 30 minutes, but it seemed to dawn on the players around then that despite all their efforts they'd got nowhere near creating a chance. Things started to go downhill from there.
Another games passes by without a single shot on target.
In the words of our recent glorious leader: 'That Is A Disgrace!'I understand a few wins everyone is happy and a few defeats everyone is suicidal to an extent, but I can only speak for myself, I’ve been glass half full on this lot for a long time now, and a few wins here and there haven’t cut it.
It’s hard because it’s obvious we’re in this position because of negligent and incompetent owners. But at the same time, I can’t help but feel a certain level of disdain toward the cast of characters that have put on a Charlton shirt in the last 3 years. For me, the majority have been a disgrace8 -
To be honest, I don't think they have got more to give. It's by & large a squad built on the cheap, made up of L2 standard players, crocks & inconsistent performers that show the odd flash of being decent before reminding us of why they're not playing at a higher level. It all starts at the very top and until that changes, don't expect to see any improvement on the pitchWellred said:Come down here hoping for more but being honest got exactly what i expected
Just leaving for home now thinking that's me with away game's
not going to make all this effort for a team that look like they can't be arsed half the time so home games only here on in
Everyone going on about owners to blame but these players have got more in them then they are giving us that's the hardest bit to take4 -
Just noticed that we still have to play 5 of the 8 below us, including Morecambe twice. That’s 6 out of the last 12 games potentially being 6 pointers. If we can’t find our scoring boots soon (and to do this we need to find our hitting the target boots first) we could easily get sucked into an ugly finish to the season.5
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While we currently have a points cushion, we need to pick up 2-3 wins again and pretty fast. Goals have dried up at an inconvenient time and most of the players we brought in last window are not delivering, perhaps bar Hector. I think we go for it over the next three games with a 4-4-2 and throw the kitchen sink at it. Leaburn and Kanu up too for all three games, regardless of their output, we need to gamble now and hope one or both brings a few goals.I am more concerned what is going on in the background, it remaining the same or a new owner which delivers more of the same and we are fcuked as a club.Just one another point to note, Plymouth was the first away game I have not done for a while. When in the crowd the chants toward TS come across quite loud, if any were sung yesterday, heard nothing through CTV. If we are trying to get our dissatisfaction across we are going to need to sing louder and in greater number…2
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Club going nowhere fast. I don’t see any monied red and white knights riding to our rescue either. We’re a mid table third tier club saddled with massive problems of ground ownership and a stadium that’s just too expensive for a club of our stature to run. Squad is un exciting and plodding in every area. Fans are without exception demoralised to the point of despair. Up until two seasons ago I still harboured thoughts of perhaps in five or six seasons making a return to the top flight. It will take literally a miracle for that now. Been going since I was 5 years old in 1961. Never felt as despondent as I do now. The last ten years have probably done for a generation of young addicks support. The list of those culpable is unbelievably long. I’m actually quite close to not giving a fuck anymore. It’s too bloody painful watching a lifetime long friend in terminal decline.8
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Oh. Did we play yesterday?
No shots on target and no goals I see. Again.
In the third division.
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I'm with Cabbles. I actually can't believe how easy a ride this lot get from our fans compared to previous seasons.11
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its not the players fault though really is it? i think they give their all but just aren't good enough and aren't helped by having no goal threat - most are just numb and accepting of it as the status quo now - only 3 pages on this thread after a defeat says it all - its boring and has all been said before3
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Only checked the score this morning (unusual for me), say's it all really.0
