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Summer Transfer Rumours - Deadline Day p446
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Nothing would be more Charlton than him getting over his ACL injury, signing for us then getting some fluke ankle injury in some friendly that writes him off for the entire season.cafc4life said:Signing Dack would be a massive statement. Would be great in League One if he is over his ACL injury.4 -
I thought Dack completely hated us after he was released? Would be shocked if he signed1
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That's a no from me on Dack, imagine he is past his best and we don't need another player on high wages with injury concerns.
There's also this: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.kentonline.co.uk/maidstone/news/amp/woman-describes-waking-up-with-31700/
Believe he has had a handful of runnings with police, he doesn't sound like the nicest bloke going, I would rather us find a player in form within our own league or the league below, younger and hungrier. I don't want to see another player potentially over the hill playing for us just for comfort reasons.2 -
Liam Moore been released by Reading0
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We need players that can play a full season. Dack isn't that. Good player on his day but not what we need IMO.9
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Someone else suggested Dack to me this evening and said it was happening
either they read the same story or they’ve heard it from someone at the club (that's what they said was the source)
Dack was very unhappy with the way he left us BUT was a very good player before his injury and was popular at Blackburn. He’s a local lad so might fancy coming home to be near family 🤷♂️
not impossible I guess
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Either way, if Dack is the calibre of player we’re going after then this transfer window should be a substantial improvement on the last few13
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Does he have the legs and the hunger or would it be a move for convenience?Sollied said:Either way, if Dack is the calibre of player we’re going after then this transfer window should be a substantial improvement on the last few
Could be a good signing if he has, but I can't help but think of Gunter and Watson.
Appears he's stayed fit this season making 13 starts and 14 sub apps in the league this season.
https://www.soccerbase.com/teams/team.sd?team_id=308&teamTabs=stats
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Hope this is true. Dack is good enough for it to be worth the gamble on him staying fit4
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This would be my concern as well. A fully fit and hungry Dack would probably be a good asset to have but I don't know he'd pass the "No dickheads" test.Scoham said:
Does he have the legs and the hunger or would it be a move for convenience?Sollied said:Either way, if Dack is the calibre of player we’re going after then this transfer window should be a substantial improvement on the last few
Could be a good signing if he has, but I can't help but think of Gunter and Watson.
Appears he's stayed fit this season making 13 starts and 14 sub apps in the league this season.
https://www.soccerbase.com/teams/team.sd?team_id=308&teamTabs=stats5 -
I know Dack has had a few injuries but he’s 29, it’s not the same as Watson who came to us to retire.
With JRS going I’d quite like to see us return to a diamond. A quality CM with Dobson, Fraser and Dack would be a good midfield.0 -
I can't help but think of Di Canio and Andy Hughes.Scoham said:
Does he have the legs and the hunger or would it be a move for convenience?Sollied said:Either way, if Dack is the calibre of player we’re going after then this transfer window should be a substantial improvement on the last few
Could be a good signing if he has, but I can't help but think of Gunter and Watson.
Appears he's stayed fit this season making 13 starts and 14 sub apps in the league this season.
https://www.soccerbase.com/teams/team.sd?team_id=308&teamTabs=stats
Every profile of player there are ones that worked, and ones that didn't.
We aren't going to sign 10 hungry, up and coming, players who's value will sky rocket.
Dack could be our Barry Bannon. He could be the next Ben Watson. We might not sign him. He might go to Wigan (no need to move) and be brilliant. He might go to Orient (near home but not us) and be injured or a shell of his former self. Who knows.
TBH if we were fishing in that market with the added, he would rather not but if your paying x premium, I would have a tingle.0 -
The doubts with Dack are his injuries, obviously, and his stereotypical footballer with wag lifestyle. Not sure I want another showboating sick note who just wants to be in London for a last payday.But that said; I’ve got full faith in Holden to weed out dickheads - and not sign any. So have pretty good faith in his judgement either way.0
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My view on Dack coming to Charlton, less than 5%.So, welcome Bradley, great signing.1
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Injuries have been an issue, but I believe he is over his knee injuries now. Just hope if true it doesn't turn in to another Arter type of signing. But Dack is a good age of 29 and no doubt has a few points to prove with his knees!Swisdom said:Someone else suggested Dack to me this evening and said it was happening
either they read the same story or they’ve heard it from someone at the club (that's what they said was the source)
Dack was very unhappy with the way he left us BUT was a very good player before his injury and was popular at Blackburn. He’s a local lad so might fancy coming home to be near family 🤷♂️
not impossible I guess
Blackburn fans are pretty much all singing his praises0 - Sponsored links:
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I mean if Dack is turning peoples noses up, I don’t know who we are expecting to bring in. Even signing young players which everyone would love, Dack would be a great addition!9
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Tbf, Dack is quality... Just a matter of whether he can stay fit1
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Morgan out Dack In
that will be a vast improvement.4 -
If it walks like a Dack, talks like a Dack, it probably is a Dack but will he waddle or can he run ?
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Well my nose is not turned up - he's clearly got talent, arguably a point to prove and is neither a young maybe nor an old has-been. Potentially he could be very useful indeed, and certacafc_se7 said:I mean if Dack is turning peoples noses up, I don’t know who we are expecting to bring in. Even signing young players which everyone would love, Dack would be a great addition!
inly a bit of experience will be a good thing.
But my arms aren't open wide either. He left under a cloud, he's coming back from injury, and his motivation to drop a level is up in the air.
Holden does deserve a chance to build his own squad. He deserves the chance from our supposed new owners and from fans as well, we've not yet seen what he can do with a squad of his own making.
But (and maybe I'm just cynical/worn down) our theoretical new signing being a good player with a bad injury dropping a league doesn't quite feel like the brand new start we were hoping for, personally.1 -
Dack would certainly be a gamble.
On the one side he was a very good player a few years ago and pre-injuries he was on the verge of a Premier league move and i'm sure i remember him being strongly linked with Leeds.
However after two cruciate knee injuries, he's likely never going to be the same player he was and there's surely the potential that he break down again.
Having said that, despite his injury record i'd be surprised if he can't get a deal at a championship club.3 -
Dack I would be surprised if he would drop to League 1? Wages I could see being a bit of a stumbling block. Do think creativity is something that's high on the list of things to address though. Not sure if Fraser is the answer or if he needs the side in effect to be built around him.0
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On the injury side, none of us will know the risk element as much as the club. The sort of player who is better than League One by a significant margin which may, along with released players like Morgan, Inniss and Clare, who could have got deals be a positive sign.0
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I completely understand where you are coming from and we have been there before with the likes of Arter. Taking injury out of the equation though….more so from a confidence point of view…nobody wanted Yann before he signed. You just never know.thenewbie said:
Well my nose is not turned up - he's clearly got talent, arguably a point to prove and is neither a young maybe nor an old has-been. Potentially he could be very useful indeed, and certacafc_se7 said:I mean if Dack is turning peoples noses up, I don’t know who we are expecting to bring in. Even signing young players which everyone would love, Dack would be a great addition!
inly a bit of experience will be a good thing.
But my arms aren't open wide either. He left under a cloud, he's coming back from injury, and his motivation to drop a level is up in the air.
Holden does deserve a chance to build his own squad. He deserves the chance from our supposed new owners and from fans as well, we've not yet seen what he can do with a squad of his own making.
But (and maybe I'm just cynical/worn down) our theoretical new signing being a good player with a bad injury dropping a league doesn't quite feel like the brand new start we were hoping for, personally.0 -
Di Canio and Hughes weren’t from London and were known to be good pros who kept themselves fit.Cafc43v3r said:
I can't help but think of Di Canio and Andy Hughes.Scoham said:
Does he have the legs and the hunger or would it be a move for convenience?Sollied said:Either way, if Dack is the calibre of player we’re going after then this transfer window should be a substantial improvement on the last few
Could be a good signing if he has, but I can't help but think of Gunter and Watson.
Appears he's stayed fit this season making 13 starts and 14 sub apps in the league this season.
https://www.soccerbase.com/teams/team.sd?team_id=308&teamTabs=stats
Every profile of player there are ones that worked, and ones that didn't.
We aren't going to sign 10 hungry, up and coming, players who's value will sky rocket.
Dack could be our Barry Bannon. He could be the next Ben Watson. We might not sign him. He might go to Wigan (no need to move) and be brilliant. He might go to Orient (near home but not us) and be injured or a shell of his former self. Who knows.
TBH if we were fishing in that market with the added, he would rather not but if you’re paying x premium, I would have a tingle.
Gunter no longer had the hunger and arguably the legs, playing for Wales was more of a priority. Watson got his move home and didn’t have enough of either.
You’ve raised your second and third points before and I agree. Dack has had a serious injury and had a couple of seasons starting fewer than 20 league games. He’d also be returning home. If another older player has played more games and hasn’t had a fairly recent major injury then I wouldn’t be as concerned.
Fortunately we know Holden wants a fitter squad and the right characters (clearly neither were high enough priorities in our recruitment under TS) so if Dack passes those tests and we sign him I’d back Holden’s judgement.0
