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That Titanic submersible
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I would suspect that if saved the two/three Billionaires would happily pay the bill.1
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That’s if it hasn’t already floated to the surface which is a possibility being examined.ShootersHillGuru said:So perhaps less than 20 hours to locate the vessel. Get cables attached and have a platform in situ above to haul it to the surface. All at a depth of 3700 metres. I’m very much hoping I’m wrong but it’s starting to look like a forlorn hope to me.
in answer to your earlier post about who foots the bill (not that it’s really relevant), D&O insurers of OceanGate, future contracts for the companies involved in the rescue, the “billionaires” themselves depending on who has jurisdiction of the waters they’re located in and of course, future Netflix royalties.0 -
I'm immersed in news every day as it's my job. What's news worthy is defined by what gets the most clicks, the bbc even ranks what stories are getting the most views. If a story is buried away on the African or world news page it's not going to get the clicks.Gribbo said:I think the fact it's an ongoing incident, involves 3 Brits and the details of the situation they are potentially in, makes it more of a news story.
As someone said earlier this is picking up global attention not because it's newsworthy, but because it makes better headlines.
The bbc have been giving us almost hourly updates on how much Oxygen they have left. This is the gloss on the story, the suspense, it's what keeps the people coming back. We knew on Monday how much air they had left. The only real update are these mysterious bangs that are yet to be located.
It reminds me of the Tham Luang cave rescue a few years ago. We all hope for good news, no doubt someone in Hollywood is rubbing their hands together.0 -
I think the Netflix thing is really relevant, but only if they're rescued.stop_shouting said:
That’s if it hasn’t already floated to the surface which is a possibility being examined.ShootersHillGuru said:So perhaps less than 20 hours to locate the vessel. Get cables attached and have a platform in situ above to haul it to the surface. All at a depth of 3700 metres. I’m very much hoping I’m wrong but it’s starting to look like a forlorn hope to me.
in answer to your earlier post about who foots the bill (not that it’s really relevant), D&O insurers of OceanGate, future contracts for the companies involved in the rescue, the “billionaires” themselves depending on who has jurisdiction of the waters they’re located in and of course, future Netflix royalties.
If so - and I'm sure we'll all be hoping this is the case - then the eight-part Netflix documentary series will be hugely lucrative.
If not, then it'll be a much shorter documentary about who went to jail and who should have.0 -
And the litigation will go on for years.Chizz said:
I think the Netflix thing is really relevant, but only if they're rescued.stop_shouting said:
That’s if it hasn’t already floated to the surface which is a possibility being examined.ShootersHillGuru said:So perhaps less than 20 hours to locate the vessel. Get cables attached and have a platform in situ above to haul it to the surface. All at a depth of 3700 metres. I’m very much hoping I’m wrong but it’s starting to look like a forlorn hope to me.
in answer to your earlier post about who foots the bill (not that it’s really relevant), D&O insurers of OceanGate, future contracts for the companies involved in the rescue, the “billionaires” themselves depending on who has jurisdiction of the waters they’re located in and of course, future Netflix royalties.
If so - and I'm sure we'll all be hoping this is the case - then the eight-part Netflix documentary series will be hugely lucrative.
If not, then it'll be a much shorter documentary about who went to jail and who should have.0 -
JohnBoyUK said:
jesus f christ. That tweet puts it into perspective somewhat.Rufus is a dogs name said:aside from the bizarre disregard to the technical/operational risks, diving down over 12 times (!!!) the max depth of a military submarine to steal a view of the site of one of the most infamous loss of lives in history.... just seems like a very odd thing to want to do, akin to the nutters that spend their time/money chasing a dream of opening up an ancient Egyptian sarcophagus
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">TITANIC <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/OCEANGATE?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc^tfw">#OCEANGATE</a> UPDATE: With less than 40 hours of oxygen left, How DEEP is the 5 passenger sub? Somewhere around 3700 Meters, where the Titanic is. <br>How deep is 3700? This scary video will show you. <a href="https://t.co/f5kdGjOWUV">pic.twitter.com/f5kdGjOWUV</a></p>— 24/7 (@100NEWS) <a href="">June 21, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>Apparently if the vessel can be found, the rescue operation would be 11,000 feet deeper than the deepest successful undersea rescue so far...!0 -
https://twitter.com/joshuagates/status/1671561050280566787?s=46&t=mGCOqsYjoEyJN0_hC5SN_AFor those that know him or his shows…..0
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Definitely one of the better threads I’ve started14
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I cant imagine how you'd get the thing back up other than a scrapyard electromagnet on a massive cable, and that will only work if it has a decent steel content.Rufus is a dogs name said:JohnBoyUK said:
jesus f christ. That tweet puts it into perspective somewhat.Rufus is a dogs name said:aside from the bizarre disregard to the technical/operational risks, diving down over 12 times (!!!) the max depth of a military submarine to steal a view of the site of one of the most infamous loss of lives in history.... just seems like a very odd thing to want to do, akin to the nutters that spend their time/money chasing a dream of opening up an ancient Egyptian sarcophagus
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">TITANIC <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/OCEANGATE?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc^tfw">#OCEANGATE</a> UPDATE: With less than 40 hours of oxygen left, How DEEP is the 5 passenger sub? Somewhere around 3700 Meters, where the Titanic is. <br>How deep is 3700? This scary video will show you. <a href="https://t.co/f5kdGjOWUV">pic.twitter.com/f5kdGjOWUV</a></p>— 24/7 (@100NEWS) <a href="">June 21, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>Apparently if the vessel can be found, the rescue operation would be 11,000 feet deeper than the deepest successful undersea rescue so far...!
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If anyone wants to spend £200k on a short trip and not risk their life. You can book a week at Centre Parcs during the school holidays51
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Yep. With the CEO on board, it will be interesting who they bring corporate manslaughter (or whatever the equivalent is in the us) charges against other than the company if they perish.Chizz said:
I think the Netflix thing is really relevant, but only if they're rescued.stop_shouting said:
That’s if it hasn’t already floated to the surface which is a possibility being examined.ShootersHillGuru said:So perhaps less than 20 hours to locate the vessel. Get cables attached and have a platform in situ above to haul it to the surface. All at a depth of 3700 metres. I’m very much hoping I’m wrong but it’s starting to look like a forlorn hope to me.
in answer to your earlier post about who foots the bill (not that it’s really relevant), D&O insurers of OceanGate, future contracts for the companies involved in the rescue, the “billionaires” themselves depending on who has jurisdiction of the waters they’re located in and of course, future Netflix royalties.
If so - and I'm sure we'll all be hoping this is the case - then the eight-part Netflix documentary series will be hugely lucrative.
If not, then it'll be a much shorter documentary about who went to jail and who should have.0 -
In general, regardless of how this ranks with other incidents and loss of life, or how stupid these people have been to do this, one thing I can’t stand, is how cheap I feel human life is perceived these days. Go on twitter and there are memes and all sorts of unfunny crap people have put together for a laugh whilst these people are potentially about to take their last breath.
it’s not just this. It seems that it’s become acceptable to video people dying or being seriously hurt, just for a few followers. I saw a video last week where a cyclist had been hit by a bus in NYC and was trapped underneath it, parts of him spread all over the road. Some twunt’s first thought, I must get this on film. Imagine that it’s your loved one/friend and some twat has decided to get their phone out and film your final moments and just after for a twitter handle.22 -
Just waiting for Elon Musk to come along and call one of the rescuers a noncePopIcon said:
I'm immersed in news every day as it's my job. What's news worthy is defined by what gets the most clicks, the bbc even ranks what stories are getting the most views. If a story is buried away on the African or world news page it's not going to get the clicks.Gribbo said:I think the fact it's an ongoing incident, involves 3 Brits and the details of the situation they are potentially in, makes it more of a news story.
As someone said earlier this is picking up global attention not because it's newsworthy, but because it makes better headlines.
The bbc have been giving us almost hourly updates on how much Oxygen they have left. This is the gloss on the story, the suspense, it's what keeps the people coming back. We knew on Monday how much air they had left. The only real update are these mysterious bangs that are yet to be located.
It reminds me of the Tham Luang cave rescue a few years ago. We all hope for good news, no doubt someone in Hollywood is rubbing their hands together.7 -
I’d imagine there is a cable connection point that is used to lower and raise the submersible to and from the deck of a ship. Whether it’s easy for a ROV remote arm to make the connection is another thing. That’s if they actually find it.IdleHans said:
I cant imagine how you'd get the thing back up other than a scrapyard electromagnet on a massive cable, and that will only work if it has a decent steel content.Rufus is a dogs name said:JohnBoyUK said:
jesus f christ. That tweet puts it into perspective somewhat.Rufus is a dogs name said:aside from the bizarre disregard to the technical/operational risks, diving down over 12 times (!!!) the max depth of a military submarine to steal a view of the site of one of the most infamous loss of lives in history.... just seems like a very odd thing to want to do, akin to the nutters that spend their time/money chasing a dream of opening up an ancient Egyptian sarcophagus
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">TITANIC <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/OCEANGATE?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc^tfw">#OCEANGATE</a> UPDATE: With less than 40 hours of oxygen left, How DEEP is the 5 passenger sub? Somewhere around 3700 Meters, where the Titanic is. <br>How deep is 3700? This scary video will show you. <a href="https://t.co/f5kdGjOWUV">pic.twitter.com/f5kdGjOWUV</a></p>— 24/7 (@100NEWS) <a href="">June 21, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>Apparently if the vessel can be found, the rescue operation would be 11,000 feet deeper than the deepest successful undersea rescue so far...!0 -
You're doing the very dangerous thing of assuming that the company behind the craft had taken safety issues seriously.ShootersHillGuru said:
I’d imagine there is a cable connection point that is used to lower and raise the submersible to and from the deck of a ship. Whether it’s easy for a ROV remote arm to make the connection is another thing. That’s if they actually find it.IdleHans said:
I cant imagine how you'd get the thing back up other than a scrapyard electromagnet on a massive cable, and that will only work if it has a decent steel content.Rufus is a dogs name said:JohnBoyUK said:
jesus f christ. That tweet puts it into perspective somewhat.Rufus is a dogs name said:aside from the bizarre disregard to the technical/operational risks, diving down over 12 times (!!!) the max depth of a military submarine to steal a view of the site of one of the most infamous loss of lives in history.... just seems like a very odd thing to want to do, akin to the nutters that spend their time/money chasing a dream of opening up an ancient Egyptian sarcophagus
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">TITANIC <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/OCEANGATE?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc^tfw">#OCEANGATE</a> UPDATE: With less than 40 hours of oxygen left, How DEEP is the 5 passenger sub? Somewhere around 3700 Meters, where the Titanic is. <br>How deep is 3700? This scary video will show you. <a href="https://t.co/f5kdGjOWUV">pic.twitter.com/f5kdGjOWUV</a></p>— 24/7 (@100NEWS) <a href="">June 21, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>Apparently if the vessel can be found, the rescue operation would be 11,000 feet deeper than the deepest successful undersea rescue so far...!
I'm not sure what we know of the submersible would indicate that that is likely.
Apart from that, it appears that it is launched from the ship sitting on a cradle of some sort, and then floats away from that once underwater.0 -
If they haven’t taken safety issue’s seriously then their insurers are going to be paying out gazillions.NornIrishAddick said:
You're doing the very dangerous thing of assuming that the company behind the craft had taken safety issues seriously.ShootersHillGuru said:
I’d imagine there is a cable connection point that is used to lower and raise the submersible to and from the deck of a ship. Whether it’s easy for a ROV remote arm to make the connection is another thing. That’s if they actually find it.IdleHans said:
I cant imagine how you'd get the thing back up other than a scrapyard electromagnet on a massive cable, and that will only work if it has a decent steel content.Rufus is a dogs name said:JohnBoyUK said:
jesus f christ. That tweet puts it into perspective somewhat.Rufus is a dogs name said:aside from the bizarre disregard to the technical/operational risks, diving down over 12 times (!!!) the max depth of a military submarine to steal a view of the site of one of the most infamous loss of lives in history.... just seems like a very odd thing to want to do, akin to the nutters that spend their time/money chasing a dream of opening up an ancient Egyptian sarcophagus
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">TITANIC <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/OCEANGATE?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc^tfw">#OCEANGATE</a> UPDATE: With less than 40 hours of oxygen left, How DEEP is the 5 passenger sub? Somewhere around 3700 Meters, where the Titanic is. <br>How deep is 3700? This scary video will show you. <a href="https://t.co/f5kdGjOWUV">pic.twitter.com/f5kdGjOWUV</a></p>— 24/7 (@100NEWS) <a href="">June 21, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>Apparently if the vessel can be found, the rescue operation would be 11,000 feet deeper than the deepest successful undersea rescue so far...!
I'm not sure what we know of the submersible would indicate that that is likely.
Apart from that, it appears that it is launched from the ship sitting on a cradle of some sort, and then floats away from that once underwater.1 -
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Or their insurance will be void, perhaps?ShootersHillGuru said:
If they haven’t taken safety issue’s seriously then their insurers are going to be paying out gazillions.NornIrishAddick said:
You're doing the very dangerous thing of assuming that the company behind the craft had taken safety issues seriously.ShootersHillGuru said:
I’d imagine there is a cable connection point that is used to lower and raise the submersible to and from the deck of a ship. Whether it’s easy for a ROV remote arm to make the connection is another thing. That’s if they actually find it.IdleHans said:
I cant imagine how you'd get the thing back up other than a scrapyard electromagnet on a massive cable, and that will only work if it has a decent steel content.Rufus is a dogs name said:JohnBoyUK said:
jesus f christ. That tweet puts it into perspective somewhat.Rufus is a dogs name said:aside from the bizarre disregard to the technical/operational risks, diving down over 12 times (!!!) the max depth of a military submarine to steal a view of the site of one of the most infamous loss of lives in history.... just seems like a very odd thing to want to do, akin to the nutters that spend their time/money chasing a dream of opening up an ancient Egyptian sarcophagus
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">TITANIC <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/OCEANGATE?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc^tfw">#OCEANGATE</a> UPDATE: With less than 40 hours of oxygen left, How DEEP is the 5 passenger sub? Somewhere around 3700 Meters, where the Titanic is. <br>How deep is 3700? This scary video will show you. <a href="https://t.co/f5kdGjOWUV">pic.twitter.com/f5kdGjOWUV</a></p>— 24/7 (@100NEWS) <a href="">June 21, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>Apparently if the vessel can be found, the rescue operation would be 11,000 feet deeper than the deepest successful undersea rescue so far...!
I'm not sure what we know of the submersible would indicate that that is likely.
Apart from that, it appears that it is launched from the ship sitting on a cradle of some sort, and then floats away from that once underwater.2 -
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These jokes are well out of order, how can you all sink so low.12
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Nothing to joke about but if you got into that thing you would had to have been a little but mad and taking your own life into your hands.0
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IdleHans said:
I cant imagine how you'd get the thing back up other than a scrapyard electromagnet on a massive cable, and that will only work if it has a decent steel content.Rufus is a dogs name said:JohnBoyUK said:
jesus f christ. That tweet puts it into perspective somewhat.Rufus is a dogs name said:aside from the bizarre disregard to the technical/operational risks, diving down over 12 times (!!!) the max depth of a military submarine to steal a view of the site of one of the most infamous loss of lives in history.... just seems like a very odd thing to want to do, akin to the nutters that spend their time/money chasing a dream of opening up an ancient Egyptian sarcophagus
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">TITANIC <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/OCEANGATE?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc^tfw">#OCEANGATE</a> UPDATE: With less than 40 hours of oxygen left, How DEEP is the 5 passenger sub? Somewhere around 3700 Meters, where the Titanic is. <br>How deep is 3700? This scary video will show you. <a href="https://t.co/f5kdGjOWUV">pic.twitter.com/f5kdGjOWUV</a></p>— 24/7 (@100NEWS) <a href="">June 21, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>Apparently if the vessel can be found, the rescue operation would be 11,000 feet deeper than the deepest successful undersea rescue so far...!
I guess there may be a chance it has simply got lodged against something and that by unlodging it somehow it can itself jettison sufficient weight to float back up. Frankly the chances of finding it time seem utterly remote. Dreadful way to go for those onboard, particularly the 19yr old so young.
One of the fellas on a previous dive is quoted as saying they almost invariably lose contact with the boat when they dive. Seems an utter shit show of a company taking enormous risks which were inevitably going to create this mess sooner or later.0 -
Gribbo said:
Yeah I do understand it, but given the cost + risk = a glimpse through a tiny porthole, I personally can't level it with other "dangerous" experiences like going up Everest for example. But then I'm the same with space tourism and even going up in a hot air balloon lolcafctom said:
Like many activities of the type - it’s so they can say that they did it, rather than the actual enjoyment of doing it.Gribbo said:You wonder who'd spend the best part of £200k to spend 8 hours in a small tube, listening to others answer the call of nature behind a curtain, only to then take it in turns to look through small porthole at the rusted wreck of the Titanic. Sooner save the money, avoid the risk and watch it on a TV screen myself.
All that said and as above. Really hope they're rescued
Was going to reference swimming the channel in this post, and this morning it's being reported a charity swimmer has gone missing while doing just that0 -
Another case of some pretty obvious health and safety not being observed? Surely a boat should follow channel swimmers?Gribbo said:Gribbo said:
Yeah I do understand it, but given the cost + risk = a glimpse through a tiny porthole, I personally can't level it with other "dangerous" experiences like going up Everest for example. But then I'm the same with space tourism and even going up in a hot air balloon lolcafctom said:
Like many activities of the type - it’s so they can say that they did it, rather than the actual enjoyment of doing it.Gribbo said:You wonder who'd spend the best part of £200k to spend 8 hours in a small tube, listening to others answer the call of nature behind a curtain, only to then take it in turns to look through small porthole at the rusted wreck of the Titanic. Sooner save the money, avoid the risk and watch it on a TV screen myself.
All that said and as above. Really hope they're rescued
Was going to reference swimming the channel in this post, and this morning it's being reported a charity swimmer has gone missing while doing just that
Legal case for this will be interesting. The thing wasn't approved and the disclaimer they signed stated there was a risk of death. I'm guessing the company couldn't legally sell the trip? Is there anyone other than the captain involved with the company? I assume he was beaten to death within a couple of hours of the voyage starting.0 -
The Titanic is 2.5 miles down. The submersible could be anywhere from on the bottom to being on the surface in an area the size of the state of Connecticut. That is I understand the size of the search area. It’s a phenomenally difficult task even to locate it. I really think this is going to end in tragedy.Athletico Charlton said:IdleHans said:
I cant imagine how you'd get the thing back up other than a scrapyard electromagnet on a massive cable, and that will only work if it has a decent steel content.Rufus is a dogs name said:JohnBoyUK said:
jesus f christ. That tweet puts it into perspective somewhat.Rufus is a dogs name said:aside from the bizarre disregard to the technical/operational risks, diving down over 12 times (!!!) the max depth of a military submarine to steal a view of the site of one of the most infamous loss of lives in history.... just seems like a very odd thing to want to do, akin to the nutters that spend their time/money chasing a dream of opening up an ancient Egyptian sarcophagus
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">TITANIC <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/OCEANGATE?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc^tfw">#OCEANGATE</a> UPDATE: With less than 40 hours of oxygen left, How DEEP is the 5 passenger sub? Somewhere around 3700 Meters, where the Titanic is. <br>How deep is 3700? This scary video will show you. <a href="https://t.co/f5kdGjOWUV">pic.twitter.com/f5kdGjOWUV</a></p>— 24/7 (@100NEWS) <a href="">June 21, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>Apparently if the vessel can be found, the rescue operation would be 11,000 feet deeper than the deepest successful undersea rescue so far...!
I guess there may be a chance it has simply got lodged against something and that by unlodging it somehow it can itself jettison sufficient weight to float back up. Frankly the chances of finding it time seem utterly remote. Dreadful way to go for those onboard, particularly the 19yr old so young.
One of the fellas on a previous dive is quoted as saying they almost invariably lose contact with the boat when they dive. Seems an utter shit show of a company taking enormous risks which were inevitably going to create this mess sooner or later.1 -
It's hard enough to find intelligent life in actual Connecticut.10
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What I don't understand is that I have a Bluetooth card in my wallet and can use my phone to find it but yet a craft travelling 2.5m below sea level hasn't got a tracker5
