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Summer Transfer Rumours - Deadline Day p446
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Holden being quite cagey there, can understand why and he's obviously not wanting to be drawn on anything but he's not saying no either.
I would think that both are on the list somewhere but presumably there are others that may or may not be prioritised.0 -
Sounds quite promising on Francis and Mizouni if we want them.1
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I didn't see enough in relation to Francis to think we would move for him without seeing more. It isn't easy for a centre back to impress in a game like yesterday.6
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We have been told (many times) that an (increased) budget has been agreed by both TS and the new owners.soapboxsam said:I see the consensus is we can't buy players that are under contract until the takeover is completed( frustrating but understandable) BUT who decides the wages of Lloyd and Isted or any one else who is out of contract?
Sandgaard won't be paying the wages for long 🤞and there must be some tacit agreement between the two parties while the checks etc carry on 🤔
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So much for Holden not wanting Alfie May then, if he's not denying any talk about him0
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The mantra must be to get better players in than leave so that means better than Morgan, Clare and Inniss who were regulars in the team last season that finished 10th.
Morgan did improve last season because cafc couldn't even get him out on loan two years ago because there were no takers, yet Blackpool who have just been relegated from the Championship gave him a two year contract with a year's option.
Which ever way Dean Holden wants to line up and it can't just be one way, let's hope the incomings are better than the players who leave. Can we say play with an edge without going OTT ( Ryan 🤦🏻♂️)
It may be a close run thing because we are in theory a bigger club than for Cambridge (Jones)- Crewe (Kirk) - Lavelle (Morecambe) McGrandles (Lincoln) and the guys who came in from League 2 Swindon last season. I assume Kirk and Lavelle will be moved on if any takers.
The sad truth is we are now a smaller London club stuck in League 1 with a championship stadium and we need some magic dust to get the club and fans out of this cynical Stupor that has engulfed us all.
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He said he doesnt like talking about other clubs players. If he said that about the ipswich lad and then denied may, it would be pretty obvious that we were after the ipswich guy. I think he is very professional and doesn't comment either wayForeverAddickted said:So much for Holden not wanting Alfie May then, if he's not denying any talk about him17 -
ForeverAddickted said:So much for Holden not wanting Alfie May then, if he's not denying any talk about him
As I said FA, why wouldn't you want a striker who has had two cracking seasons and scored 20 goals in 39 league matches for a team who finished in the bottom half of League 1.
One person said Holden doesn't want May and then it's gospel. I prefer to hear from the horses mouth.5 -
The doubt was whether he would fit our system if we kept playing 4-3-3. It looks like we are switching to 3 at the back so it would be a lot easier to fit May in nowsoapboxsam said:ForeverAddickted said:So much for Holden not wanting Alfie May then, if he's not denying any talk about him
As I said FA, why wouldn't you want a striker who has had two cracking seasons and scored 20 goals in 39 league matches for a team who finished in the bottom half of League 1.
One person said Holden doesn't want May and then it's gospel. I prefer to hear from the horses mouth.0 -
NabySarr said:
The doubt was whether he would fit our system if we kept playing 4-3-3. It looks like we are switching to 3 at the back so it would be a lot easier to fit May in nowsoapboxsam said:ForeverAddickted said:So much for Holden not wanting Alfie May then, if he's not denying any talk about him
As I said FA, why wouldn't you want a striker who has had two cracking seasons and scored 20 goals in 39 league matches for a team who finished in the bottom half of League 1.
One person said Holden doesn't want May and then it's gospel. I prefer to hear from the horses mouth.
As I said we can't just play one system as the coaches have all been on the same courses and you really do need to be able to adapt. I loved JJ but the 3-5-2 was predictable when played every week and you don't have the players who can play the wing back role. We may be able to play on occasions 3-5-2 this season if we can bring in certain players. Leaburn and May/AN other in a two would certainly be good for Leaburn.
Play a 3 when CBT is firing on all cylinders.
Mix and match must be the option.
Man City only have a Plan A according to Kevin de Bryne ! No surprise when they are so fluid and flexible and it's impossible to work out what formation they are playing other than they appear to have more than 11 on the pitch.0 -
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Most teams play the same formation every game, especially teams that are successful. Managers like Bowyer that regularly mixed it up are quite rare. Could be that we switch from 3-4-3 to 3-5-2 but I think it’s unlikely that we will be switching between 3 and 4 at the back regularly as that’s not how you build a settled defence or way of building from the back. Obviously you change during the game if you are defending a lead or chasing a goal but the majority of teams stick to one formation mostly. I’m pretty certain Plymouth and Ipswich played the same formation every game last seasonsoapboxsam said:NabySarr said:
The doubt was whether he would fit our system if we kept playing 4-3-3. It looks like we are switching to 3 at the back so it would be a lot easier to fit May in nowsoapboxsam said:ForeverAddickted said:So much for Holden not wanting Alfie May then, if he's not denying any talk about him
As I said FA, why wouldn't you want a striker who has had two cracking seasons and scored 20 goals in 39 league matches for a team who finished in the bottom half of League 1.
One person said Holden doesn't want May and then it's gospel. I prefer to hear from the horses mouth.
As I said we can't just play one system as the coaches have all been on the same courses and you really do need to be able to adapt. I loved JJ but the 3-5-2 was predictable when played every week and you don't have the players who can play the wing back role.
Man City only have a Plan A according to Kevin de Bryne ! No surprise when they are so fluid and flexible and it's impossible to work out what formation they are playing.3 -
If you think you can sign someone younger with potential to improve and sell for a profit.soapboxsam said:ForeverAddickted said:So much for Holden not wanting Alfie May then, if he's not denying any talk about him
As I said FA, why wouldn't you want a striker who has had two cracking seasons and scored 20 goals in 39 league matches for a team who finished in the bottom half of League 1.
One person said Holden doesn't want May and then it's gospel. I prefer to hear from the horses mouth.
May is at his peak and will be after the biggest contract of his career. If he doesn’t make the step up there’s no getting that money back and you’re stuck with a player on a big wage for 2/3 years. He might be a player who’s better being a big fish in a small pond.
Not saying I do or don’t want us to sign May, but there’s a lot they need to consider than just his goal record.
If we bring him in and he continues scoring 20+ then he’ll be a great signing even if he’s not one for the longer term.
If not we’re potentially stuck with another player we don’t want alongside Aneke, Kirk, Lavelle and DJ.2 -
When you sign a player like May you change the system, especially when we have nothing concrete in generalNabySarr said:
The doubt was whether he would fit our system if we kept playing 4-3-3. It looks like we are switching to 3 at the back so it would be a lot easier to fit May in nowsoapboxsam said:ForeverAddickted said:So much for Holden not wanting Alfie May then, if he's not denying any talk about him
As I said FA, why wouldn't you want a striker who has had two cracking seasons and scored 20 goals in 39 league matches for a team who finished in the bottom half of League 1.
One person said Holden doesn't want May and then it's gospel. I prefer to hear from the horses mouth.0 -
I NabySarr said:
Most teams play the same formation every game, especially teams that are successful. Managers like Bowyer that regularly mixed it up are quite rare. Could be that we switch from 3-4-3 to 3-5-2 but I think it’s unlikely that we will be switching between 3 and 4 at the back regularly as that’s not how you build a settled defence or way of building from the back. Obviously you change during the game if you are defending a lead or chasing a goal but the majority of teams stick to one formation mostly. I’m pretty certain Plymouth and Ipswich played the same formation every game last seasonsoapboxsam said:NabySarr said:
The doubt was whether he would fit our system if we kept playing 4-3-3. It looks like we are switching to 3 at the back so it would be a lot easier to fit May in nowsoapboxsam said:ForeverAddickted said:So much for Holden not wanting Alfie May then, if he's not denying any talk about him
As I said FA, why wouldn't you want a striker who has had two cracking seasons and scored 20 goals in 39 league matches for a team who finished in the bottom half of League 1.
One person said Holden doesn't want May and then it's gospel. I prefer to hear from the horses mouth.
As I said we can't just play one system as the coaches have all been on the same courses and you really do need to be able to adapt. I loved JJ but the 3-5-2 was predictable when played every week and you don't have the players who can play the wing back role.
Man City only have a Plan A according to Kevin de Bryne ! No surprise when they are so fluid and flexible and it's impossible to work out what formation they are playing.
I really didn't mean Lee Bowyer and his A-Z changes.
Ipswich and Plymouth were the strongest two teams in the league and they only had to slightly tweek their play.
Just can't see Cafc being in that position come the start of the season so we will need to be more flexible with an A-B plan not A-Z.
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Maybe at the start of the season if we sign a lot of players late in the window there might be some changes while Holden works out the best way to set us up. Once he finds it though, there shouldn’t be change unless we go on a winless run. Look at the top 6 of all 4 leagues and you will probably see that most of those teams very rarely changed from their usual set upsoapboxsam said:I NabySarr said:
Most teams play the same formation every game, especially teams that are successful. Managers like Bowyer that regularly mixed it up are quite rare. Could be that we switch from 3-4-3 to 3-5-2 but I think it’s unlikely that we will be switching between 3 and 4 at the back regularly as that’s not how you build a settled defence or way of building from the back. Obviously you change during the game if you are defending a lead or chasing a goal but the majority of teams stick to one formation mostly. I’m pretty certain Plymouth and Ipswich played the same formation every game last seasonsoapboxsam said:NabySarr said:
The doubt was whether he would fit our system if we kept playing 4-3-3. It looks like we are switching to 3 at the back so it would be a lot easier to fit May in nowsoapboxsam said:ForeverAddickted said:So much for Holden not wanting Alfie May then, if he's not denying any talk about him
As I said FA, why wouldn't you want a striker who has had two cracking seasons and scored 20 goals in 39 league matches for a team who finished in the bottom half of League 1.
One person said Holden doesn't want May and then it's gospel. I prefer to hear from the horses mouth.
As I said we can't just play one system as the coaches have all been on the same courses and you really do need to be able to adapt. I loved JJ but the 3-5-2 was predictable when played every week and you don't have the players who can play the wing back role.
Man City only have a Plan A according to Kevin de Bryne ! No surprise when they are so fluid and flexible and it's impossible to work out what formation they are playing.
I really didn't mean Lee Bowyer and his A-Z changes.
Ipswich and Plymouth were the strongest two teams in the league and they only had to slightly tweek their play.
Just can't see Cafc being in that position come the start of the season so we will need to be more flexible with an A-B plan not A-Z.3 -
I think Francis and Thomas are going to be our centreback left backs. Have that one Pep!0
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Maybe Thomas in midfield like Stones a la Pep?8
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Mitchell would be my guessiaitch said:Maybe Thomas in midfield like Stones a la Pep?5 -
I think he looks more of a midfielder. Talented ladForeverAddickted said:
Mitchell would be my guessiaitch said:Maybe Thomas in midfield like Stones a la Pep?4 -
I think us playing a back 3 will really help him. I would expect 1 of Deji and Mitchell to go out on loan and the other to deputise Ness on the right of our back 3L0rd_M0ntagu3 said:
I think he looks more of a midfielder. Talented ladForeverAddickted said:
Mitchell would be my guessiaitch said:Maybe Thomas in midfield like Stones a la Pep?1 -
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noTodds_right_hook said:
The new owners? Can TS legally agree a fee, sell assets and pocket the cash?lancashire lad said:even if we sell Lavelle and/or Kirk who is to say that the fee will be spent and not go into TS's retirement fund?1 -
I equally wont be surprised if Mitchell appears more for the First Team than we expect this season - Not because of a lack of depth either. I dont expect him to go out on loan till JanuaryNabySarr said:
I think us playing a back 3 will really help him. I would expect 1 of Deji and Mitchell to go out on loan and the other to deputise Ness on the right of our back 3L0rd_M0ntagu3 said:
I think he looks more of a midfielder. Talented ladForeverAddickted said:
Mitchell would be my guessiaitch said:Maybe Thomas in midfield like Stones a la Pep?1 -
No inside knowledge but fully expecting at least a couple more in with one or two out by the time we go to Spain. Hopefully we can get an attacker/forward through the door as one of them.
Then hopefully, when they’re back from Spain, the takeover will pretty much go through and we can press ahead with the rest of the signings.
I actually would keep Storrie involved until the transfer window is closed. He’s done a lot of work and been speaking to players, it could be a waste if someone new comes in and has to develop a rapport with potential new signings.
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Good comment.ForeverAddickted said:
I equally wont be surprised if Mitchell appears more for the First Team than we expect this season - Not because of a lack of depth either. I dont expect him to go out on loan till JanuaryNabySarr said:
I think us playing a back 3 will really help him. I would expect 1 of Deji and Mitchell to go out on loan and the other to deputise Ness on the right of our back 3L0rd_M0ntagu3 said:
I think he looks more of a midfielder. Talented ladForeverAddickted said:
Mitchell would be my guessiaitch said:Maybe Thomas in midfield like Stones a la Pep?
I’m not sure where on the pitch Mitchell plays best. He looks decent everywhere he appears.
Lets nurture the lad, could be a terrific player at 22/23 years of age.1 -
Andy Scott is following the club's twitter again23
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Agree on Storrie. At the very least Storrie, a proper CEO, is just a bit more credible in post signing interviews than a rhythm guitarist.Sage said:No inside knowledge but fully expecting at least a couple more in with one or two out by the time we go to Spain. Hopefully we can get an attacker/forward through the door as one of them.
Then hopefully, when they’re back from Spain, the takeover will pretty much go through and we can press ahead with the rest of the signings.
I actually would keep Storrie involved until the transfer window is closed. He’s done a lot of work and been speaking to players, it could be a waste if someone new comes in and has to develop a rapport with potential new signings.0 -
Glory hunter, after our huge win yday!charlton_hero said:Andy Scott is following the club's twitter again8 -
I don’t see Mitchell going on loan at all. With a back three and three CMs I can see him breaking through this season and getting a decent amount of game time.ForeverAddickted said:
I equally wont be surprised if Mitchell appears more for the First Team than we expect this season - Not because of a lack of depth either. I dont expect him to go out on loan till JanuaryNabySarr said:
I think us playing a back 3 will really help him. I would expect 1 of Deji and Mitchell to go out on loan and the other to deputise Ness on the right of our back 3L0rd_M0ntagu3 said:
I think he looks more of a midfielder. Talented ladForeverAddickted said:
Mitchell would be my guessiaitch said:Maybe Thomas in midfield like Stones a la Pep?4 -
Alfie May is set to sign for Gillingham apparently.1
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Anyone know why Clare was watching at Welling yesterday?
Is he still hoping for a deal here?0
