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Just Stop Oil protestors.....
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I don't know if this point has been made already but if they're so interested in getting their message across how come they didn't stage a protest at Glastonbury? Diesel generators, tens of thousands of plastic bottles discarded, tents (mostly made from Nylon) left abandoned by the 100's, 'stars' flying in to make brief appearances and a global TV audience laid on...... seems like the perfect event to protest at, yet nothing heard from JSO. I wonder why? Hypocrites.6
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So obvious, right?swordfish said:It is estimated that there are 7 years worth of available oil and gas reserves available without further exploration. If the investment was put into renewables, especially onshore wind which is relatively cheap, but resisted in the planning process, then the issue of continued energy security wouldn't pose a problem.
The Labour party are convinced by that arguement and don't see the need to keep pumping money into oil, gas, and coal having vowed no fresh investment in them, consistent with what JSO are campaigning for.0 -
What's obvious to me is that continuing to exploit fossil fuel reserves is bad for the climate and will result in temperatures rising further, so we need to stop.Siv_in_Norfolk said:
So obvious, right?swordfish said:It is estimated that there are 7 years worth of available oil and gas reserves available without further exploration. If the investment was put into renewables, especially onshore wind which is relatively cheap, but resisted in the planning process, then the issue of continued energy security wouldn't pose a problem.
The Labour party are convinced by that arguement and don't see the need to keep pumping money into oil, gas, and coal having vowed no fresh investment in them, consistent with what JSO are campaigning for.
I recommend that anyone who still has doubts about that, or doesn't fully appreciate the gravity of the situation, watch, "An Inconvenient Truth," and then read the IPCC 2023 Climate Change: Synthesis Report, and keep watching the news as more and more climate related event catastrophes get reported.
That should give the the viewer/reader a greater understanding of why JSO are making such a nuisance of themselves and why failure to tackle the issue whilst there is still time is not an option.
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Yep. With you 100%swordfish said:
What's obvious to me is that continuing to exploit fossil fuel reserves is bad for the climate and will result in temperatures rising further, so we need to stop.Siv_in_Norfolk said:
So obvious, right?swordfish said:It is estimated that there are 7 years worth of available oil and gas reserves available without further exploration. If the investment was put into renewables, especially onshore wind which is relatively cheap, but resisted in the planning process, then the issue of continued energy security wouldn't pose a problem.
The Labour party are convinced by that arguement and don't see the need to keep pumping money into oil, gas, and coal having vowed no fresh investment in them, consistent with what JSO are campaigning for.
I recommend that anyone who still has doubts about that, or doesn't fully appreciate the gravity of the situation, watch, "An Inconvenient Truth," and then read the IPCC 2023 Climate Change: Synthesis Report, and keep watching the news as more and more climate related event catastrophes get reported.
That should give the the viewer/reader a greater understanding of why JSO are making such a nuisance of themselves and why failure to tackle the issue whilst there is still time is not an option.
I wasn't being sarcastic.2 -
And then watch Don't Look Up to see a parody of where we are at now5
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Ridiculous comparison, nobody hurt by confetti (as long as it is bio-degradable).LargeAddick said:
Let me know when it’s one of your families wedding and I’ll come and throw a bucket of oil over them. I trust that won’t spoil your day.ME14addick said:If it had been normal confetti, would that have been okay? It was orange with no harm done, but has again highlighted that the Government's plan for new oil exploration licences is crazy.
If George Osborne had promoted green energy sources instead of more oil and gas, we would be in a much better position now. The article linked to that tweet shows just how short sighted that decision has proved to be.7 -
This might help you with your comment:bexleyaddick said:I don't know if this point has been made already but if they're so interested in getting their message across how come they didn't stage a protest at Glastonbury? Diesel generators, tens of thousands of plastic bottles discarded, tents (mostly made from Nylon) left abandoned by the 100's, 'stars' flying in to make brief appearances and a global TV audience laid on...... seems like the perfect event to protest at, yet nothing heard from JSO. I wonder why? Hypocrites.
https://www.glastonburyfestivals.co.uk/information/green-glastonbury/our-green-policies/energy-policy/
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Rachel Reeves (Shadow Chancellor) on Sophy Ridge this morning just said she has no time for JSO.
So to be back on track you can appreciate the message / need without the style of protests.0 -
Sorry. Having read your other contributions, I should have realised it wasn't meant sarcastically 🙄Siv_in_Norfolk said:
Yep. With you 100%swordfish said:
What's obvious to me is that continuing to exploit fossil fuel reserves is bad for the climate and will result in temperatures rising further, so we need to stop.Siv_in_Norfolk said:
So obvious, right?swordfish said:It is estimated that there are 7 years worth of available oil and gas reserves available without further exploration. If the investment was put into renewables, especially onshore wind which is relatively cheap, but resisted in the planning process, then the issue of continued energy security wouldn't pose a problem.
The Labour party are convinced by that arguement and don't see the need to keep pumping money into oil, gas, and coal having vowed no fresh investment in them, consistent with what JSO are campaigning for.
I recommend that anyone who still has doubts about that, or doesn't fully appreciate the gravity of the situation, watch, "An Inconvenient Truth," and then read the IPCC 2023 Climate Change: Synthesis Report, and keep watching the news as more and more climate related event catastrophes get reported.
That should give the the viewer/reader a greater understanding of why JSO are making such a nuisance of themselves and why failure to tackle the issue whilst there is still time is not an option.
I wasn't being sarcastic.1 -
None of us will be here thoughShootersHillGuru said:In 100 years from now people will be looking back at this point in time and cursing those that prefer to demonise and disregard the message that climate protestors are trying to get across. By then it will all be immaterial and we’ll all be fucked by hey ho, how dare they hold up the tennis.0 - Sponsored links:
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Again, seeing you didn't answer my earlier questionME14addick said:
Ridiculous comparison, nobody hurt by confetti (as long as it is bio-degradable).LargeAddick said:
Let me know when it’s one of your families wedding and I’ll come and throw a bucket of oil over them. I trust that won’t spoil your day.ME14addick said:If it had been normal confetti, would that have been okay? It was orange with no harm done, but has again highlighted that the Government's plan for new oil exploration licences is crazy.
If George Osborne had promoted green energy sources instead of more oil and gas, we would be in a much better position now. The article linked to that tweet shows just how short sighted that decision has proved to be.
how would you feel if that happened to you on your wedding day? Would you shrug your shoulders and say oh well, it was for a good cause? Or would you be mortified?
@LargeAddick hit the mail firmly on the head. Maybe if we want to be needlessly picky, we can ask him to edit his post, take out oil and add confetti instead? The point remains, whatever the cause, attacking someone's wedding crosses the line and is not justified.7 -
She didn't hold back did she.valleynick66 said:Rachel Reeves (Shadow Chancellor) on Sophy Ridge this morning just said she has no time for JSO.
So to be back on track you can appreciate the message / need without the style of protests.
This contradicts a previous poster who claims its the Right wing that opposes JSO.
I believe pretty much everyone apart from a few nutters appreciates the dangers of Global warming
Not supporting the behaviour of the JSO protesters does not mean we don't support their aims.7 -
This might explain why JSO are highlighting the climate crisis in the UK:
https://www.clientearth.org/latest/press-office/press/historic-high-court-ruling-finds-uk-government-s-climate-strategy-unlawful/
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/mar/04/revealed-cabinet-ministers-warned-of-legal-action-over-uks-failure-to-tackle-climate-crisis5 -
that's not the point though is it. It was THEIR big day and some uninvited random decided to attempt to ruin it. Confetti, oil, bricks, whatever it my have been it was totally unwarranted. If you want to throw something over him, not that I'd advocate such actions, then why not outside the Houses of Parliment. Scum, the lot of them.ME14addick said:
Ridiculous comparison, nobody hurt by confetti (as long as it is bio-degradable).LargeAddick said:
Let me know when it’s one of your families wedding and I’ll come and throw a bucket of oil over them. I trust that won’t spoil your day.ME14addick said:If it had been normal confetti, would that have been okay? It was orange with no harm done, but has again highlighted that the Government's plan for new oil exploration licences is crazy.
If George Osborne had promoted green energy sources instead of more oil and gas, we would be in a much better position now. The article linked to that tweet shows just how short sighted that decision has proved to be.7 -
That's alright then, sod the future kids eh...SamB09 said:
None of us will be here thoughShootersHillGuru said:In 100 years from now people will be looking back at this point in time and cursing those that prefer to demonise and disregard the message that climate protestors are trying to get across. By then it will all be immaterial and we’ll all be fucked by hey ho, how dare they hold up the tennis.3 -
They know if they done it outside the Houses of Parliament they would be had up on some very serious charges such as terrorism or even shot by the armed police who are there to protect and stop that sort of thing.LargeAddick said:
that's not the point though is it. It was THEIR big day and some uninvited random decided to attempt to ruin it. Confetti, oil, bricks, whatever it my have been it was totally unwarranted. If you want to throw something over him, not that I'd advocate such actions, then why not outside the Houses of Parliment. Scum, the lot of them.ME14addick said:
Ridiculous comparison, nobody hurt by confetti (as long as it is bio-degradable).LargeAddick said:
Let me know when it’s one of your families wedding and I’ll come and throw a bucket of oil over them. I trust that won’t spoil your day.ME14addick said:If it had been normal confetti, would that have been okay? It was orange with no harm done, but has again highlighted that the Government's plan for new oil exploration licences is crazy.
If George Osborne had promoted green energy sources instead of more oil and gas, we would be in a much better position now. The article linked to that tweet shows just how short sighted that decision has proved to be.0 -
And why target George Osborne anyway?He has not been in office since 2016 or even an MP since 2017.1
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we live in hopeCharltonKerry said:
They know if they done it outside the Houses of Parliament they would be had up on some very serious charges such as terrorism or even shot by the armed police who are there to protect and stop that sort of thing.LargeAddick said:
that's not the point though is it. It was THEIR big day and some uninvited random decided to attempt to ruin it. Confetti, oil, bricks, whatever it my have been it was totally unwarranted. If you want to throw something over him, not that I'd advocate such actions, then why not outside the Houses of Parliment. Scum, the lot of them.ME14addick said:
Ridiculous comparison, nobody hurt by confetti (as long as it is bio-degradable).LargeAddick said:
Let me know when it’s one of your families wedding and I’ll come and throw a bucket of oil over them. I trust that won’t spoil your day.ME14addick said:If it had been normal confetti, would that have been okay? It was orange with no harm done, but has again highlighted that the Government's plan for new oil exploration licences is crazy.
If George Osborne had promoted green energy sources instead of more oil and gas, we would be in a much better position now. The article linked to that tweet shows just how short sighted that decision has proved to be.0 -
CharltonKerry said:
They know if they done it outside the Houses of Parliament they would be had up on some very serious charges such as terrorism or even shot by the armed police who are there to protect and stop that sort of thing.LargeAddick said:
that's not the point though is it. It was THEIR big day and some uninvited random decided to attempt to ruin it. Confetti, oil, bricks, whatever it my have been it was totally unwarranted. If you want to throw something over him, not that I'd advocate such actions, then why not outside the Houses of Parliment. Scum, the lot of them.ME14addick said:
Ridiculous comparison, nobody hurt by confetti (as long as it is bio-degradable).LargeAddick said:
Let me know when it’s one of your families wedding and I’ll come and throw a bucket of oil over them. I trust that won’t spoil your day.ME14addick said:If it had been normal confetti, would that have been okay? It was orange with no harm done, but has again highlighted that the Government's plan for new oil exploration licences is crazy.
If George Osborne had promoted green energy sources instead of more oil and gas, we would be in a much better position now. The article linked to that tweet shows just how short sighted that decision has proved to be.
Get shot? There protests up there all the time0 -
Why has this got a lol?LargeAddick said:
that's not the point though is it. It was THEIR big day and some uninvited random decided to attempt to ruin it. Confetti, oil, bricks, whatever it my have been it was totally unwarranted. If you want to throw something over him, not that I'd advocate such actions, then why not outside the Houses of Parliment. Scum, the lot of them.ME14addick said:
Ridiculous comparison, nobody hurt by confetti (as long as it is bio-degradable).LargeAddick said:
Let me know when it’s one of your families wedding and I’ll come and throw a bucket of oil over them. I trust that won’t spoil your day.ME14addick said:If it had been normal confetti, would that have been okay? It was orange with no harm done, but has again highlighted that the Government's plan for new oil exploration licences is crazy.
If George Osborne had promoted green energy sources instead of more oil and gas, we would be in a much better position now. The article linked to that tweet shows just how short sighted that decision has proved to be.Hither Green, falcon wood, blue bell hill. What have these all got in common? They have cemeteries or crematoriums. Is it okay for protestors to rock up and throw orange dirt on a coffin?
I am actually interested in what they have to say and how I can be educated. But as long as they are making the average Joe miss work, or a medical appointment, they can go fuck themselves
if they want publicity, hire tv or radio advertising space, door knock and canvas. Educate, not disrupt. Get the public inside and have safety in numbers11 - Sponsored links:
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Sort out one million Green Party voters yet only one MP.
The system almost encourages direct action when the indirect action is stymied by forces that prioritise stuff that is marginal to the climate crisis.
I have quoted Samuel Beckett a couple of times in the past when he commented about protests ‘never has such rightness joined to such foolishness’.
However the great Irishman also said ‘Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.’4 -
Got no problem with direct action, as long as its directed in yhe right place3
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Gideon was one of the architects of austerity which, as has already been seen in the covid enquiry, seriously damaged the UK’s preparedness for a global pandemic.MrOneLung said:And why target George Osborne anyway?He has not been in office since 2016 or even an MP since 2017.2 -
3.88 million UKIP votes in 2015, 1 seat (having got zero with nearly a million votes in 2010), got a referendum largely because of that pressure, got their issue won through public support through the ballot box.
Imagine how well something as righteous as literally saving the world could do through the ballot box!
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Do you think that by calling him Gideon, makes him sound more like a toff and enhances your working class argument?EveshamAddick said:
Gideon was one of the architects of austerity which, as has already been seen in the covid enquiry, seriously damaged the UK’s preparedness for a global pandemic.MrOneLung said:And why target George Osborne anyway?He has not been in office since 2016 or even an MP since 2017.3 -
That’s ok then. Phew.SamB09 said:
None of us will be here thoughShootersHillGuru said:In 100 years from now people will be looking back at this point in time and cursing those that prefer to demonise and disregard the message that climate protestors are trying to get across. By then it will all be immaterial and we’ll all be fucked by hey ho, how dare they hold up the tennis.0 -
Well it is his name.Gribbo said:
Do you think that by calling him Gideon, makes him sound more like a toff and enhances your working class argument?EveshamAddick said:
Gideon was one of the architects of austerity which, as has already been seen in the covid enquiry, seriously damaged the UK’s preparedness for a global pandemic.MrOneLung said:And why target George Osborne anyway?He has not been in office since 2016 or even an MP since 2017.1 -
It's also his birth name.Gribbo said:
Do you think that by calling him Gideon, makes him sound more like a toff and enhances your working class argument?EveshamAddick said:
Gideon was one of the architects of austerity which, as has already been seen in the covid enquiry, seriously damaged the UK’s preparedness for a global pandemic.MrOneLung said:And why target George Osborne anyway?He has not been in office since 2016 or even an MP since 2017.0 -
What's that got to do with oil?EveshamAddick said:
Gideon was one of the architects of austerity which, as has already been seen in the covid enquiry, seriously damaged the UK’s preparedness for a global pandemic.MrOneLung said:And why target George Osborne anyway?He has not been in office since 2016 or even an MP since 2017.3 -
I.e. away from where anyone can see it.Gribbo said:Got no problem with direct action, as long as its directed in yhe right place
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