The only acceptable protest is to sit indoors and say nothing according to the public.
So you don't think protests can be totally misdirected? You either 100% agree with every aspect of any protest, or sit indoors.
I'm off to glue myself to the gates of the local garden center, in protest of the mistreatment of retired Gurkhas by the British government. Hopefully you're taking part, or you obviously disagree with sentiment and think sitting indoors is gonna change things....
Whatever happens people complain.
Feel free to dig up the BLM thread to see what a simple knee on the ground leads to. Complaints upon complaints. Striking? More complaints. There's nothing people can do that will satisfy the public.
Instead of complaining about JSO protesters on here, why not write to your MP and tell them to stop new licences being issued for oil fields that will take many years to come onstream, so will have no impact on prices or energy security. Ask them to increase renewables instead, which are cheaper and much quicker to get going.
Take away the cause of the protests and you take away the need for protests.
Take that to its logical conclusion for other recent campaigns.
- All hard drugs would be legal. - Fox hunting would be legal. - The UK would still be in the EU.
I think we'd all agree that none of these are desired outcomes.
Instead of complaining about JSO protesters on here, why not write to your MP and tell them to stop new licences being issued for oil fields that will take many years to come onstream, so will have no impact on prices or energy security. Ask them to increase renewables instead, which are cheaper and much quicker to get going.
Take away the cause of the protests and you take away the need for protests.
Take that to its logical conclusion for other recent campaigns.
- All hard drugs would be legal. - Fox hunting would be legal. - The UK would still be in the EU.
I think we'd all agree that none of these are desired outcomes.
Off-topic but just because you believe something, doesn't mean everyone does.
Instead of complaining about JSO protesters on here, why not write to your MP and tell them to stop new licences being issued for oil fields that will take many years to come onstream, so will have no impact on prices or energy security. Ask them to increase renewables instead, which are cheaper and much quicker to get going.
Take away the cause of the protests and you take away the need for protests.
Is this a serious suggestion? I don’t know what planet you live on if you think that letter will have any sort of impact at all.
Instead of complaining about JSO protesters on here, why not write to your MP and tell them to stop new licences being issued for oil fields that will take many years to come onstream, so will have no impact on prices or energy security. Ask them to increase renewables instead, which are cheaper and much quicker to get going.
Take away the cause of the protests and you take away the need for protests.
Is this a serious suggestion? I don’t know what planet you live on if you think that letter will have any sort of impact at all.
Instead of complaining about JSO protesters on here, why not write to your MP and tell them to stop new licences being issued for oil fields that will take many years to come onstream, so will have no impact on prices or energy security. Ask them to increase renewables instead, which are cheaper and much quicker to get going.
Take away the cause of the protests and you take away the need for protests.
Is this a serious suggestion? I don’t know what planet you live on if you think that letter will have any sort of impact at all.
Instead of complaining about JSO protesters on here, why not write to your MP and tell them to stop new licences being issued for oil fields that will take many years to come onstream, so will have no impact on prices or energy security. Ask them to increase renewables instead, which are cheaper and much quicker to get going.
Take away the cause of the protests and you take away the need for protests.
Is this a serious suggestion? I don’t know what planet you live on if you think that letter will have any sort of impact at all.
Which is probably what the JSO protest organisers think too.
Instead of complaining about JSO protesters on here, why not write to your MP and tell them to stop new licences being issued for oil fields that will take many years to come onstream, so will have no impact on prices or energy security. Ask them to increase renewables instead, which are cheaper and much quicker to get going.
Take away the cause of the protests and you take away the need for protests.
Take that to its logical conclusion for other recent campaigns.
- All hard drugs would be legal. - Fox hunting would be legal. - The UK would still be in the EU.
I think we'd all agree that none of these are desired outcomes.
Off-topic but just because you believe something, doesn't mean everyone does.
Instead of complaining about JSO protesters on here, why not write to your MP and tell them to stop new licences being issued for oil fields that will take many years to come onstream, so will have no impact on prices or energy security. Ask them to increase renewables instead, which are cheaper and much quicker to get going.
Take away the cause of the protests and you take away the need for protests.
Is this a serious suggestion? I don’t know what planet you live on if you think that letter will have any sort of impact at all.
Instead of complaining about JSO protesters on here, why not write to your MP and tell them to stop new licences being issued for oil fields that will take many years to come onstream, so will have no impact on prices or energy security. Ask them to increase renewables instead, which are cheaper and much quicker to get going.
Take away the cause of the protests and you take away the need for protests.
Is this a serious suggestion? I don’t know what planet you live on if you think that letter will have any sort of impact at all.
Instead of complaining about JSO protesters on here, why not write to your MP and tell them to stop new licences being issued for oil fields that will take many years to come onstream, so will have no impact on prices or energy security. Ask them to increase renewables instead, which are cheaper and much quicker to get going.
Take away the cause of the protests and you take away the need for protests.
Is this a serious suggestion? I don’t know what planet you live on if you think that letter will have any sort of impact at all.
Instead of complaining about JSO protesters on here, why not write to your MP and tell them to stop new licences being issued for oil fields that will take many years to come onstream, so will have no impact on prices or energy security. Ask them to increase renewables instead, which are cheaper and much quicker to get going.
Take away the cause of the protests and you take away the need for protests.
Is this a serious suggestion? I don’t know what planet you live on if you think that letter will have any sort of impact at all.
Which is probably what the JSO protest organisers think too.
Instead of complaining about JSO protesters on here, why not write to your MP and tell them to stop new licences being issued for oil fields that will take many years to come onstream, so will have no impact on prices or energy security. Ask them to increase renewables instead, which are cheaper and much quicker to get going.
Take away the cause of the protests and you take away the need for protests.
Is this a serious suggestion? I don’t know what planet you live on if you think that letter will have any sort of impact at all.
Better than moaning on a forum.
This is hilarious from you….
Here we go again, making it personal instead of debating about a very important topic, that's what caused the Covid thread to be closed down.
Missing the point of the objections to the protests, despite several people explaining it.
For clarification, disliking the manner of the protests doesn't equate to being content with the direction of climate travel.
In most cases, it is because the protests are not going to do the job and likely to be counter productive. I would guess that many people critising them admire their passion but wouldn't consider joining forces because of the tactics.
Missing the point of the objections to the protests, despite several people explaining it.
For clarification, disliking the manner of the protests doesn't equate to being content with the direction of climate travel.
In most cases, it is because the protests are not going to do the job and likely to be counter productive. I would guess that many people critising them admire their passion but wouldn't consider joining forces because of the tactics.
What do you think will make the Government change its mind and stop issuing new licences?
Missing the point of the objections to the protests, despite several people explaining it.
For clarification, disliking the manner of the protests doesn't equate to being content with the direction of climate travel.
In most cases, it is because the protests are not going to do the job and likely to be counter productive. I would guess that many people critising them admire their passion but wouldn't consider joining forces because of the tactics.
What do you think will make the Government change its mind and stop issuing new licences?
Gluing yourself to the tarmac and stopping people going to work, hospital appointments and holidays obviously
Missing the point of the objections to the protests, despite several people explaining it.
For clarification, disliking the manner of the protests doesn't equate to being content with the direction of climate travel.
In most cases, it is because the protests are not going to do the job and likely to be counter productive. I would guess that many people critising them admire their passion but wouldn't consider joining forces because of the tactics.
What do you think will make the Government change its mind and stop issuing new licences?
Gluing yourself to the tarmac and stopping people going to work, hospital appointments and holidays obviously
Missing the point of the objections to the protests, despite several people explaining it.
For clarification, disliking the manner of the protests doesn't equate to being content with the direction of climate travel.
In most cases, it is because the protests are not going to do the job and likely to be counter productive. I would guess that many people critising them admire their passion but wouldn't consider joining forces because of the tactics.
What do you think will make the Government change its mind and stop issuing new licences?
Gluing yourself to the tarmac and stopping people going to work, hospital appointments and holidays obviously
Which is why I suggested contacting your MP, if millions do that it might just get through, especially with a Government that is desperate for votes.
JSO protesters have moved on from the actions you mention, yet still they are being criticised. It seems that a lot of people are saying that they believe that Climate Change is a problem, but won't do anything about it. Better to get behind their cause than making childish comments about their appearance.
Missing the point of the objections to the protests, despite several people explaining it.
For clarification, disliking the manner of the protests doesn't equate to being content with the direction of climate travel.
In most cases, it is because the protests are not going to do the job and likely be counter productive. I would guess that many people critising them admire their passion but wouldn't consider joining forces because of the tactics.
Their goal is specifically to stop the government issuing new licenses to oil & gas exploration companies and opening a coal mine. The incoming Labour government have committed to their aims, so it would seem that their goal is achievable to me, although later than they would like and assuming it isn't reneged on.
How might the protests be counter productive? More licenses issued than had the protests not happened I presume?
Missing the point of the objections to the protests, despite several people explaining it.
For clarification, disliking the manner of the protests doesn't equate to being content with the direction of climate travel.
In most cases, it is because the protests are not going to do the job and likely to be counter productive. I would guess that many people critising them admire their passion but wouldn't consider joining forces because of the tactics.
What do you think will make the Government change its mind and stop issuing new licences?
Gluing yourself to the tarmac and stopping people going to work, hospital appointments and holidays obviously
Which is why I suggested contacting your MP, if millions do that it might just get through, especially with a Government that is desperate for votes.
JSO protesters have moved on from the actions you mention, yet still they are being criticised. It seems that a lot of people are saying that they believe that Climate Change is a problem, but won't do anything about it. Better to get behind their cause than making childish comments about their appearance.
They haven't moved on from blocking the roads though have they.
We have a Government that is about to ditch its promises on Climate Change and issue new licences for oil and gas exploration, this mustn't happen and people are risking being put in prison by a Government that has removed the right to peaceful protest. We're becoming more like Russia every day.
Missing the point of the objections to the protests, despite several people explaining it.
For clarification, disliking the manner of the protests doesn't equate to being content with the direction of climate travel.
In most cases, it is because the protests are not going to do the job and likely to be counter productive. I would guess that many people critising them admire their passion but wouldn't consider joining forces because of the tactics.
What do you think will make the Government change its mind and stop issuing new licences?
Gluing yourself to the tarmac and stopping people going to work, hospital appointments and holidays obviously
Which is why I suggested contacting your MP, if millions do that it might just get through, especially with a Government that is desperate for votes.
JSO protesters have moved on from the actions you mention, yet still they are being criticised. It seems that a lot of people are saying that they believe that Climate Change is a problem, but won't do anything about it. Better to get behind their cause than making childish comments about their appearance.
They haven't moved on from blocking the roads though have they.
They have been slow marching which is a peaceful form of protest.
Missing the point of the objections to the protests, despite several people explaining it.
For clarification, disliking the manner of the protests doesn't equate to being content with the direction of climate travel.
In most cases, it is because the protests are not going to do the job and likely be counter productive. I would guess that many people critising them admire their passion but wouldn't consider joining forces because of the tactics.
Their goal is specifically to stop the government issuing new licenses to oil & gas exploration companies and opening a coal mine. The incoming Labour government have committed to their aims, so it would seem that their goal is achievable to me, although later than they would like and assuming it isn't reneged on.
How might the protests be counter productive? More licenses issued than had the protests not happened I presume?
The Tories have done a huge amount of damage to the environment whilst making many false claims. They are the current Government and they will never stop their lies and damage to the environment all the time there seems to be an overwhelming majority of voters put off the cause by the protests.
We have a Government that is about to ditch its promises on Climate Change and issue new licences for oil and gas exploration, this mustn't happen and people are risking being put in prison by a Government that has removed the right to peaceful protest. We're becoming more like Russia every day.
.the government has not removed the right to peaceful protest.
We have a Government that is about to ditch its promises on Climate Change and issue new licences for oil and gas exploration, this mustn't happen and people are risking being put in prison by a Government that has removed the right to peaceful protest. We're becoming more like Russia every day.
The government have not stopped the right to peaceful protest.
We have a Government that is about to ditch its promises on Climate Change and issue new licences for oil and gas exploration, this mustn't happen and people are risking being put in prison by a Government that has removed the right to peaceful protest. We're becoming more like Russia every day.
Missing the point of the objections to the protests, despite several people explaining it.
For clarification, disliking the manner of the protests doesn't equate to being content with the direction of climate travel.
In most cases, it is because the protests are not going to do the job and likely be counter productive. I would guess that many people critising them admire their passion but wouldn't consider joining forces because of the tactics.
Their goal is specifically to stop the government issuing new licenses to oil & gas exploration companies and opening a coal mine. The incoming Labour government have committed to their aims, so it would seem that their goal is achievable to me, although later than they would like and assuming it isn't reneged on.
How might the protests be counter productive? More licenses issued than had the protests not happened I presume?
The Tories have done a huge amount of damage to the environment whilst making many false claims. They are the current Government and they will never stop their lies and damage to the environment all the time there seems to be an overwhelming majority of voters put off the cause by the protests.
Like they would otherwise I suppose 🤔
Edit - and posters on here haven't been "put off the cause" have they?
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Feel free to dig up the BLM thread to see what a simple knee on the ground leads to. Complaints upon complaints. Striking? More complaints. There's nothing people can do that will satisfy the public.
- All hard drugs would be legal.
- Fox hunting would be legal.
- The UK would still be in the EU.
I think we'd all agree that none of these are desired outcomes.
Spain, close enough to make us want to do something about the climate emergency? Nah, just carry on as we are.
pic.twitter.com/UvdPHaqmBg— Green Cllr Scott (@cllrLisaScott) July 7, 2023 ">Missing the point of the objections to the protests, despite several people explaining it.
For clarification, disliking the manner of the protests doesn't equate to being content with the direction of climate travel.
In most cases, it is because the protests are not going to do the job and likely to be counter productive. I would guess that many people critising them admire their passion but wouldn't consider joining forces because of the tactics.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Sea_flood_of_1953
JSO protesters have moved on from the actions you mention, yet still they are being criticised. It seems that a lot of people are saying that they believe that Climate Change is a problem, but won't do anything about it. Better to get behind their cause than making childish comments about their appearance.
How might the protests be counter productive? More licenses issued than had the protests not happened I presume?
Of course we are...
Edit - and posters on here haven't been "put off the cause" have they?