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Just Stop Oil protestors.....
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What are you doing to combat climate change then?ME14addick said:Such a shame that some people show more anger at throwing a bit of orange confetti, than a decision to open new oil fields that will take so long to come onstream, that will not provide energy security, but line the pockets of the oil barons.3 -
Never leaves the house so im sure rarely uses gas or electricity!clb74 said:
What are you doing to combat climate change then?ME14addick said:Such a shame that some people show more anger at throwing a bit of orange confetti, than a decision to open new oil fields that will take so long to come onstream, that will not provide energy security, but line the pockets of the oil barons.
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Pathetic childish commentcafcfan1990 said:
Never leaves the house so im sure rarely uses gas or electricity!clb74 said:
What are you doing to combat climate change then?ME14addick said:Such a shame that some people show more anger at throwing a bit of orange confetti, than a decision to open new oil fields that will take so long to come onstream, that will not provide energy security, but line the pockets of the oil barons.6 -
Nope it’s highlighted that they’re scumbags, yet again.ME14addick said:If it had been normal confetti, would that have been okay? It was orange with no harm done, but has again highlighted that the Government's plan for new oil exploration licences is crazy.
If George Osborne had promoted green energy sources instead of more oil and gas, we would be in a much better position now. The article linked to that tweet shows just how short sighted that decision has proved to be.0 -
Well you’ve made a comment or two about not wanting to leave the house. So I’d argue you probably use more energy than the average person living a normal life no?ME14addick said:
Pathetic childish commentcafcfan1990 said:
Never leaves the house so im sure rarely uses gas or electricity!clb74 said:
What are you doing to combat climate change then?ME14addick said:Such a shame that some people show more anger at throwing a bit of orange confetti, than a decision to open new oil fields that will take so long to come onstream, that will not provide energy security, but line the pockets of the oil barons.0 -
Many Tory MPs are funded by right wing think tanks with links to the oil industry. They need to keep them sweet to keep the money flowing in.
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It's alright blaming others but what are we doing ourselves to combat climate change?ME14addick said:Many Tory MPs are funded by right wing think tanks with links to the oil industry. They need to keep them sweet to keep the money flowing in.
Do you own more than 1 pair of shoes?, if yes why?
You only need one pair , wear them out and then buy another pair.
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Who are the many Tory MPs and what are the think tanks with the links? What evidence can you produce that there is a link between the UKs approach to North Sea oil and the personal gain of unnamed Tory MPs?ME14addick said:Many Tory MPs are funded by right wing think tanks with links to the oil industry. They need to keep them sweet to keep the money flowing in.
in reality I don’t expect you to answer the questions for many reasons.0 -
Owning more than one pair of shoes is hardly on the same scale as opening up new oilfields, that will take so long to come onstream, won't provide energy security, but add to greenhouse gas emissions. Far better to concentrate on renewables which are far cheaper.clb74 said:
It's alright blaming others but what are we doing ourselves to combat climate change?ME14addick said:Many Tory MPs are funded by right wing think tanks with links to the oil industry. They need to keep them sweet to keep the money flowing in.
Do you own more than 1 pair of shoes?, if yes why?
You only need one pair , wear them out and then buy another pair.
Do you think it a good idea to open new oilfields in a Climate emergency, because this is what the protests are about?0 - Sponsored links:
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It's was their wedding day. They did not have to go through that, it doesn't matter what colour confetti was used.ME14addick said:If it had been normal confetti, would that have been okay? It was orange with no harm done, but has again highlighted that the Government's plan for new oil exploration licences is crazy.
If George Osborne had promoted green energy sources instead of more oil and gas, we would be in a much better position now. The article linked to that tweet shows just how short sighted that decision has proved to be.
how would you have felt if that happened to you on your wedding day?4 -
@me14ad@ME14addick How much money are we discussing that means an individual consciously votes to ignore scientific and unchallengeable evidence that only JSO seem able to comprehend?clb74 said:
It's alright blaming others but what are we doing ourselves to combat climate change?ME14addick said:Many Tory MPs are funded by right wing think tanks with links to the oil industry. They need to keep them sweet to keep the money flowing in.
Do you own more than 1 pair of shoes?, if yes why?
You only need one pair , wear them out and then buy another pair.
My point is that whilst climate change is an undeniable issue the solutions are not simple and clear cut.I doubt, as seems suggested, corruption is at the heart of this. Rather difficult choices need to be balanced.0 -
What would be the benefit to any think tank in "funding" an MP then?0
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I can't understand why those against the protests are not bothered the fact that their energy bills are higher, because the producers of cheaper renewable energy are paid to match the cost of producing energy by fossil fuels. The sooner we move to cheaper green energy the better.2
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So that they continue to allow them to open up new oilfields.Gribbo said:What would be the benefit to any think tank in "funding" an MP then?
Try Googling 55 Tufton Street.2 -
Do think tanks run oil fields then?ME14addick said:
So that they continue to allow them to open up new oilfields.Gribbo said:What would be the benefit to any think tank in "funding" an MP then?
Try Googling 55 Tufton Street.
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SporadicAddick said:
Who are the many Tory MPs and what are the think tanks with the links? What evidence can you produce that there is a link between the UKs approach to North Sea oil and the personal gain of unnamed Tory MPs?ME14addick said:Many Tory MPs are funded by right wing think tanks with links to the oil industry. They need to keep them sweet to keep the money flowing in.
in reality I don’t expect you to answer the questions for many reasons.
I'll post links tomorrow, I'm on my phone so need to be on my PC.0 -
That’s the complexity of the energy market. Not a ploy simply to dissuade renewables per se surely.ME14addick said:I can't understand why those against the protests are not bothered the fact that their energy bills are higher, because the producers of cheaper renewable energy are paid to match the cost of producing energy by fossil fuels. The sooner we move to cheaper green energy the better.
The price / investment policies I assume now need change / updating to align to current circumstances.I repeat it’s complex.0 -
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This makes my brain hurt.ME14addick said:I can't understand why those against the protests are not bothered the fact that their energy bills are higher, because the producers of cheaper renewable energy are paid to match the cost of producing energy by fossil fuels. The sooner we move to cheaper green energy the better.So are you saying the renewable energy companies are ripping us off by charging more than they need to?
who are these solar barons ?
I want to write to my MP3 -
Gribbo said:
Do think tanks run oil fields then?ME14addick said:
So that they continue to allow them to open up new oilfields.Gribbo said:What would be the benefit to any think tank in "funding" an MP then?
Try Googling 55 Tufton Street.
Genuine question
Read the link I've posted0 -
I did post about this a few pages ago.MrOneLung said:
This makes my brain hurt.ME14addick said:I can't understand why those against the protests are not bothered the fact that their energy bills are higher, because the producers of cheaper renewable energy are paid to match the cost of producing energy by fossil fuels. The sooner we move to cheaper green energy the better.So are you saying the renewable energy companies are ripping us off by charging more than they need to?
who are these solar barons ?
I want to write to my MP0 -
Obviously the main discussion point is the OP’s use of protestors rather than protesters0
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In 100 years from now people will be looking back at this point in time and cursing those that prefer to demonise and disregard the message that climate protestors are trying to get across. By then it will all be immaterial and we’ll all be fucked by hey ho, how dare they hold up the tennis.10
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It is estimated that there are 7 years worth of available oil and gas reserves available without further exploration. If the investment was put into renewables, especially onshore wind which is relatively cheap, but resisted in the planning process, then the issue of continued energy security wouldn't pose a problem.
The Labour party are convinced by that arguement and don't see the need to keep pumping money into oil, gas, and coal having vowed no fresh investment in them, consistent with what JSO are campaigning for.
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"But if only they protested 'in the right way*'."ShootersHillGuru said:In 100 years from now people will be looking back at this point in time and cursing those that prefer to demonise and disregard the message that climate protestors are trying to get across. By then it will all be immaterial and we’ll all be fucked by hey ho, how dare they hold up the tennis.
*Meaning not at all.4 -
SporadicAddick said:
Who are these oil barons?ME14addick said:Such a shame that some people show more anger at throwing a bit of orange confetti, than a decision to open new oil fields that will take so long to come onstream, that will not provide energy security, but line the pockets of the oil barons.
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And if after 7 years the technology still doesn't exist to store renewable energy and all the oil and gas reserves are used up, what then?swordfish said:It is estimated that there are 7 years worth of available oil and gas reserves available without further exploration. If the investment was put into renewables, especially onshore wind which is relatively cheap, but resisted in the planning process, then the issue of continued energy security wouldn't pose a problem.
The Labour party are convinced by that arguement and don't see the need to keep pumping money into oil, gas, and coal having vowed no fresh investment in them, consistent with what JSO are campaigning for.0 -
Let me know when it’s one of your families wedding and I’ll come and throw a bucket of oil over them. I trust that won’t spoil your day.ME14addick said:If it had been normal confetti, would that have been okay? It was orange with no harm done, but has again highlighted that the Government's plan for new oil exploration licences is crazy.
If George Osborne had promoted green energy sources instead of more oil and gas, we would be in a much better position now. The article linked to that tweet shows just how short sighted that decision has proved to be.6
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