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  • redbuttle
    redbuttle Posts: 1,983
    Scoham said:
    The defeat today wasn’t due to the tactics, formation or a lack of effort - what’s clear is the squad lacks the quality we need.

    Nothings changed from what we already knew - we need a couple of strikers plus strengthening in general across the squad to give us a stronger starting 11 and players who can change a game from the bench.

    We’ve spent enough of the last decade or so to know where this squad currently is. Let’s hope the ownership and their management team understand too and we see the actions not words, as they said after the takeover completed.
    Scoham said:
    The defeat today wasn’t due to the tactics, formation or a lack of effort - what’s clear is the squad lacks the quality we need.

    Nothings changed from what we already knew - we need a couple of strikers plus strengthening in general across the squad to give us a stronger starting 11 and players who can change a game from the bench.

    We’ve spent enough of the last decade or so to know where this squad currently is. Let’s hope the ownership and their management team understand too and we see the actions not words, as they said after the takeover completed.
    Spot on.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,360
    MrBurns said:
    Owners need to pull their bloody finger out
    Dramatically put, but not far wrong.

    I would suggest the area we struggle most is a partner for May. A big strong player is needed who can hold it up, flick it on and support May whilst scoring themselves.
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 12,001
    Dazzler21 said:
    MrBurns said:
    Owners need to pull their bloody finger out
    Dramatically put, but not far wrong.

    I would suggest the area we struggle most is a partner for May. A big strong player is needed who can hold it up, flick it on and support May whilst scoring themselves.
    100%
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,870
    Yes we want to get our main target blah blah, but I still don't see why this stops us getting another target man striker in the meantime. Not a hot prospect, but a solid pro near the end of his career who can give us some desperately needed height and physical presence up front.

    The longer this goes on, the more obvious it becomes that we are desperate, and the more Exeter will ask for Nombe . 
  • ValleyBen
    ValleyBen Posts: 572
    Strong target man to compete with Leaburn for partnership with May plus a RB/WB to replace Egbo who Asiimwe can learn from are what we need most of all IMO. 
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,827
    ValleyBen said:
    Strong target man to compete with Leaburn for partnership with May plus a RB/WB to replace Egbo who Asiimwe can learn from are what we need most of all IMO. 
    We need strength in every position if we really want to get promoted 
  • ValleyBen
    ValleyBen Posts: 572
    wmcf123 said:
    ValleyBen said:
    Strong target man to compete with Leaburn for partnership with May plus a RB/WB to replace Egbo who Asiimwe can learn from are what we need most of all IMO. 
    We need strength in every position if we really want to get promoted 
    Agreed but those two are the main priorities in my opinion, as May is shackled without a decent partner and Asiimwe like Anderson looks to have the raw ability to become a first team regular this season but is not ready yet to be starting back to back league matches. 
  • CAFCDAZ
    CAFCDAZ Posts: 1,199
    If that line up us out best 11 barring Hector, Fraser and Leaburn we are seriously short. Payne must have rubber boots as he can't fucking control the ball for toffee, just bounces off of him constantly. 
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,827
    ValleyBen said:
    wmcf123 said:
    ValleyBen said:
    Strong target man to compete with Leaburn for partnership with May plus a RB/WB to replace Egbo who Asiimwe can learn from are what we need most of all IMO. 
    We need strength in every position if we really want to get promoted 
    Agreed but those two are the main priorities in my opinion, as May is shackled without a decent partner and Asiimwe like Anderson looks to have the raw ability to become a first team regular this season but is not ready yet to be starting back to back league matches. 
    The last time we went up, most of our team were championship quality players.  Not many of this lot are . 
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  • ValleyBen
    ValleyBen Posts: 572
    wmcf123 said:
    ValleyBen said:
    wmcf123 said:
    ValleyBen said:
    Strong target man to compete with Leaburn for partnership with May plus a RB/WB to replace Egbo who Asiimwe can learn from are what we need most of all IMO. 
    We need strength in every position if we really want to get promoted 
    Agreed but those two are the main priorities in my opinion, as May is shackled without a decent partner and Asiimwe like Anderson looks to have the raw ability to become a first team regular this season but is not ready yet to be starting back to back league matches. 
    The last time we went up, most of our team were championship quality players.  Not many of this lot are . 
    We are also playing in a much weaker league then that period, we need more quality signings but 3 or 4 of the quality of May/Camara/Edun and I think we are top six, a few more if we want to compete for the title. 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,168
    Obviously need some reinforcements up top but if today’s match is anything to go by then we shouldn’t be in for JCH. A decent player but not worth the money being talked about and was virtually anonymous for most of the match 
  • So short. Need at least 5 or 6 to come in. Cb, rwb, x2 cm and x2 strikers 
  • We have a great bellwether of what it takes to get promoted from this division. 18/19 wasn’t too long ago and our squad realistically is absolutely nowhere near as good. In that side almost every player was capable of and went on to play at a higher level. 

    Keeper: Phillips
    Defence: Dijksteel, Pearce, Bauer, Sarr, Purrington
    Midfield: Pratley, Cullen, Williams, Aribo, Bielik
    Forwards: Taylor, Grant, Parker

    Who out of our current squad gets in that 18/19 team?

    Dobson for Pratley possibly. May for Parker and can arguably compete with Grant.

    Honestly I can’t think of another player who even comes close.

    Sobering comparison. We’re currently miles off.
  • Southbank
    Southbank Posts: 5,255
    We have a great bellwether of what it takes to get promoted from this division. 18/19 wasn’t too long ago and our squad realistically is absolutely nowhere near as good. In that side almost every player was capable of and went on to play at a higher level. 

    Keeper: Phillips
    Defence: Dijksteel, Pearce, Bauer, Sarr, Purrington
    Midfield: Pratley, Cullen, Williams, Aribo, Bielik
    Forwards: Taylor, Grant, Parker

    Who out of our current squad gets in that 18/19 team?

    Dobson for Pratley possibly. May for Parker and can arguably compete with Grant.

    Honestly I can’t think of another player who even comes close.

    Sobering comparison. We’re currently miles off.
    So true. The level of the division has not changed much. We are way off promotion level.
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,050
    6 signings in a fortnight is what it looks like it's going to take to get us competitive. Hopefully Andy Scott is ready to do some serious wheeling and dealing to get this squad where it needs to be. 

    Don't expect a striker in for Tuesday but for next Saturday it feels like a must. Can't go 4 games into the season with a bodged selection of strike partnerships because it's going to do May no good. 
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,290
    edited August 2023
    Ladapo was an unused sub for Ipswich today. Kayden Jackson came on instead and scored so that might mean Ladapo is surplus to requirements, especially if they bring in another striker 
  • Also missing a talisman. Taylor and Kermorgant were ours when we went up in 2019 and 2012.
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,290
    I still think 4 quality additions will do it. If we bring in a quality CB, wing back, CM and ST then we’ll be in the top 6 and be in with a shout of 2nd behind Bolton. A couple extra would be nice but would be quite a task to see that much overhaul in one window 
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  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,050
    Owen Moxon not in the Carlisle squad but apparently " injured" , possibly too similar to Taylor now to be a target though. 
  • NabySarr said:
    I still think 4 quality additions will do it. If we bring in a quality CB, wing back, CM and ST then we’ll be in the top 6 and be in with a shout of 2nd behind Bolton. A couple extra would be nice but would be quite a task to see that much overhaul in one window 
    There’s players out there that would definitely improve us. The big question is will the new owners pay what’s needed to get….

    RB - Junior Tchamadeu
    CM - Owen Moxon
    ST - Sam Nombe 
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,290
    NabySarr said:
    I still think 4 quality additions will do it. If we bring in a quality CB, wing back, CM and ST then we’ll be in the top 6 and be in with a shout of 2nd behind Bolton. A couple extra would be nice but would be quite a task to see that much overhaul in one window 
    There’s players out there that would definitely improve us. The big question is will the new owners pay what’s needed to get….

    RB - Junior Tchamadeu
    CM - Owen Moxon
    ST - Sam Nombe 
    Would be amazing but I can’t see 3 significant fees being spent. Maybe 1 or 2 at most. Will probably see a PL loan or 2 to fill a couple of the gaps. 

    I’m hoping Scott will be on the phone to Ipswich this week and we go all out for Ladapo whether it be loan or permanent 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,050
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    I still think 4 quality additions will do it. If we bring in a quality CB, wing back, CM and ST then we’ll be in the top 6 and be in with a shout of 2nd behind Bolton. A couple extra would be nice but would be quite a task to see that much overhaul in one window 
    There’s players out there that would definitely improve us. The big question is will the new owners pay what’s needed to get….

    RB - Junior Tchamadeu
    CM - Owen Moxon
    ST - Sam Nombe 
    Would be amazing but I can’t see 3 significant fees being spent. Maybe 1 or 2 at most. Will probably see a PL loan or 2 to fill a couple of the gaps. 

    I’m hoping Scott will be on the phone to Ipswich this week and we go all out for Ladapo whether it be loan or permanent 

    I expect a striker for a fee and potentially a fee on a CB , midfield I think will be one of the PL loans - shame we couldn't get Jenson Weir. 
  • For me the new owners would be crazy not to go for it this year bearing in mind…

    a) This is the weakest league one for years

    b) Our best two players Dobson & CBT are likely to leave for free in the summer if we don’t go up (making the rebuild required next summer even bigger / more costly)
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,290
    MarcusH26 said:
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    I still think 4 quality additions will do it. If we bring in a quality CB, wing back, CM and ST then we’ll be in the top 6 and be in with a shout of 2nd behind Bolton. A couple extra would be nice but would be quite a task to see that much overhaul in one window 
    There’s players out there that would definitely improve us. The big question is will the new owners pay what’s needed to get….

    RB - Junior Tchamadeu
    CM - Owen Moxon
    ST - Sam Nombe 
    Would be amazing but I can’t see 3 significant fees being spent. Maybe 1 or 2 at most. Will probably see a PL loan or 2 to fill a couple of the gaps. 

    I’m hoping Scott will be on the phone to Ipswich this week and we go all out for Ladapo whether it be loan or permanent 

    I expect a striker for a fee and potentially a fee on a CB , midfield I think will be one of the PL loans - shame we couldn't get Jenson Weir. 
    Yep I agree I can see us spending on a striker and the CM I think will be a PL loan. There must be a technically good creative and/or goalscoring midfielder in a Prem academy for us somewhere. 

    CB I think might be loan if there is a good left footed one about as they are tough/expensive to buy permanently. Wanted us to sign Crichlow who played against us today as knew we’d be crying out for a left footed CB. 
  • Southbank said:
    We have a great bellwether of what it takes to get promoted from this division. 18/19 wasn’t too long ago and our squad realistically is absolutely nowhere near as good. In that side almost every player was capable of and went on to play at a higher level. 

    Keeper: Phillips
    Defence: Dijksteel, Pearce, Bauer, Sarr, Purrington
    Midfield: Pratley, Cullen, Williams, Aribo, Bielik
    Forwards: Taylor, Grant, Parker

    Who out of our current squad gets in that 18/19 team?

    Dobson for Pratley possibly. May for Parker and can arguably compete with Grant.

    Honestly I can’t think of another player who even comes close.

    Sobering comparison. We’re currently miles off.
    So true. The level of the division has not changed much. We are way off promotion level.
    Our squad isn't as good but I also think the league is weaker now than it was then
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,290
    Southbank said:
    We have a great bellwether of what it takes to get promoted from this division. 18/19 wasn’t too long ago and our squad realistically is absolutely nowhere near as good. In that side almost every player was capable of and went on to play at a higher level. 

    Keeper: Phillips
    Defence: Dijksteel, Pearce, Bauer, Sarr, Purrington
    Midfield: Pratley, Cullen, Williams, Aribo, Bielik
    Forwards: Taylor, Grant, Parker

    Who out of our current squad gets in that 18/19 team?

    Dobson for Pratley possibly. May for Parker and can arguably compete with Grant.

    Honestly I can’t think of another player who even comes close.

    Sobering comparison. We’re currently miles off.
    So true. The level of the division has not changed much. We are way off promotion level.
    Our squad isn't as good but I also think the league is weaker now than it was then
    The most comparable season to this one that we were in league 1 is probably 2020/21. We finished 7th then and our squad now isn’t far off that squad and I would expect we will have a better squad at the end of this window than we did that season 
  • Sam_777
    Sam_777 Posts: 52
    Why would you want to sign the right back from Col U? He’s a year older than Asimwe who’s starting games a division higher and not looking at all out of place
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,290
    Sam_777 said:
    Why would you want to sign the right back from Col U? He’s a year older than Asimwe who’s starting games a division higher and not looking at all out of place
    Tchamadeu would be an upgrade on Egbo, he has huge potential and for his age has played a lot of games. He’s better going forward than Asiimwe and can play on the left also. He’d be a brilliant signing, you need more than 1 good player in each position ideally