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Summer Transfer Rumours - Deadline Day p446
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I hope so. Certainly I agree that he is (on paper) an upgrade over Egbo and Asiimwe definitely does show promise.NabySarr said:
It is an upgrade on Egbo though, who was also an injury risk. Might have been the plan to have Egbo as number 2, so they wanted number 1 to be someone that they know will stay fit and therefore rejected Dabo. Now we have Asiimwe coming through and Egbo moved on, perhaps they are now happy to go for Dabo as they’re confident Asiimwe will stay fitthenewbie said:
That's a good point. And as I said before, a fit and fully functional Dabo is more than okay for League One, he was apparently getting interest from Championship teams - which is good.NabySarr said:A reminder that medicals aren’t a pass/fail test to see if a player is injured or has injury issues. It’s an assessment of those things which the club then use to make a decision on whether the player is worth that risk. You could technically still pass a medical with a broken legI think it’s highly likely that Dabo was asking for too much last time round so the medical risk meant we decided against it. He’s probably tried to find himself a club on those terms and failed, come back to us asking for less so we might now assess it differently. I think it’s more likely to be that than his injury circumstances changing in such a short space of timeJust thought I’d clear that up as seems to be a lot of misconceptions about medicals in football
The issue is that he's not actually apparently all that sought after by anyone else which is a bit worrying. Either his terms were WAY out or no-one seems inclined to risking it. Either way makes it seem something of a gamble honestly.
My concern is that we are 2 league games into the season and already facing an injury crisis. This sounds like yet another player who is excellent when fit... but is he going to be fit enough often enough?1 -
That's what Curbs was eluding to last night post match, saying that you sometimes need to hang back an play it cool, so that a better deal can be struck, by not appearing as desperate and prepared to walk away if the player / club doesn't agree to your terms. This works for buying as well as selling however and as he said, we are likely to have to spend some of our squad budget to offload the likes of Kirk so that we can sign an alternative.NabySarr said:A reminder that medicals aren’t a pass/fail test to see if a player is injured or has injury issues. It’s an assessment of those things which the club then use to make a decision on whether the player is worth that risk. You could technically still pass a medical with a broken legI think it’s highly likely that Dabo was asking for too much last time round so the medical risk meant we decided against it. He’s probably tried to find himself a club on those terms and failed, come back to us asking for less so we might now assess it differently. I think it’s more likely to be that than his injury circumstances changing in such a short space of timeJust thought I’d clear that up as seems to be a lot of misconceptions about medicals in football
If we subsidise Kirk's deal elsewhere to the tune of £4k a week (assuming he's on £8k), then whatever budget we have to sign a new player is reduced by that amount, surely!3 -
It’s either got be naff recruiting, or all our budget can stretch too?golfaddick said:
Its not all about medicals though is it ? If he does sign will he be fit to play on Saturday ? He might be training with us but he's not had any game time & now we are out of the cup we only have the Pizza Cup he can get match fit.NabySarr said:A reminder that medicals aren’t a pass/fail test to see if a player is injured or has injury issues. It’s an assessment of those things which the club then use to make a decision on whether the player is worth that risk. You could technically still pass a medical with a broken legI think it’s highly likely that Dabo was asking for too much last time round so the medical risk meant we decided against it. He’s probably tried to find himself a club on those terms and failed, come back to us asking for less so we might now assess it differently. I think it’s more likely to be that than his injury circumstances changing in such a short space of timeJust thought I’d clear that up as seems to be a lot of misconceptions about medicals in football
Yet again we seem to be signing players who are not fit enough to go straight into the team. Weird policy when we are already stretched with current injuries. You'd think you'd only be signing players who've had a pre-season & are 100% ready to go.0 -
But is Dabo ready yet? Until that happens we have no cover for an 18 year old at RB. All it takes is a slight knock to the ankle or a dead leg in training, and we're really struggling in that position.Garrymanilow said:
I was thinking similar, I think Asiimwe has impressed more than they expected and they are happy with him playing a lot of games this season. With serious interest for Egbo meaning a space opened up I'd guess that they're comfortable bringing Dabo in as first choice knowing an injury could recur because they're happy with Asiimwe being there too. Feels like Dabo and Egbo was an unacceptable risk but Dabo and Asiimwe is fineNabySarr said:
It is an upgrade on Egbo though, who was also an injury risk. Might have been the plan to have Egbo as number 2, so they wanted number 1 to be someone that they know will stay fit and therefore rejected Dabo. Now we have Asiimwe coming through and Egbo moved on, perhaps they are now happy to go for Dabo as they’re confident Asiimwe will stay fitthenewbie said:
That's a good point. And as I said before, a fit and fully functional Dabo is more than okay for League One, he was apparently getting interest from Championship teams - which is good.NabySarr said:A reminder that medicals aren’t a pass/fail test to see if a player is injured or has injury issues. It’s an assessment of those things which the club then use to make a decision on whether the player is worth that risk. You could technically still pass a medical with a broken legI think it’s highly likely that Dabo was asking for too much last time round so the medical risk meant we decided against it. He’s probably tried to find himself a club on those terms and failed, come back to us asking for less so we might now assess it differently. I think it’s more likely to be that than his injury circumstances changing in such a short space of timeJust thought I’d clear that up as seems to be a lot of misconceptions about medicals in football
The issue is that he's not actually apparently all that sought after by anyone else which is a bit worrying. Either his terms were WAY out or no-one seems inclined to risking it. Either way makes it seem something of a gamble honestly.1 -
Watching that and the other video, what's clear is he can pick a pass like Tayo. It's also pretty handy he can play both flanks for squad rotation.Callumcafc said:
The general consensus from the Coventry fans I've seen, is that he is good on his day but not consistent, but this is of course them speaking about the championship I assume.
He seems quite small (or Djed Spence is giant) so it doesn't really address our physicality issues, but it does seem he can play ball.
I imagine this is gonna go through as Cawley has tweeted and he only usually does when a deal is close, we still need 3 more. It's nice to hear clarification from Cawley that the club want a striker, holds them accountable.4 -
That is a concern but I think if we are playing 3-5-2 then we can play Edun on the left and CBT on the right. Ness or Jones would be able to cover CBT a bit like Thomas has been doing on the left, with Edun playing the Asiimwe role on the opposite side and not getting as far forward as CBTkillerandflash said:
But is Dabo ready yet? Until that happens we have no cover for an 18 year old at RB. All it takes is a slight knock to the ankle or a dead leg in training, and we're really struggling in that position.Garrymanilow said:
I was thinking similar, I think Asiimwe has impressed more than they expected and they are happy with him playing a lot of games this season. With serious interest for Egbo meaning a space opened up I'd guess that they're comfortable bringing Dabo in as first choice knowing an injury could recur because they're happy with Asiimwe being there too. Feels like Dabo and Egbo was an unacceptable risk but Dabo and Asiimwe is fineNabySarr said:
It is an upgrade on Egbo though, who was also an injury risk. Might have been the plan to have Egbo as number 2, so they wanted number 1 to be someone that they know will stay fit and therefore rejected Dabo. Now we have Asiimwe coming through and Egbo moved on, perhaps they are now happy to go for Dabo as they’re confident Asiimwe will stay fitthenewbie said:
That's a good point. And as I said before, a fit and fully functional Dabo is more than okay for League One, he was apparently getting interest from Championship teams - which is good.NabySarr said:A reminder that medicals aren’t a pass/fail test to see if a player is injured or has injury issues. It’s an assessment of those things which the club then use to make a decision on whether the player is worth that risk. You could technically still pass a medical with a broken legI think it’s highly likely that Dabo was asking for too much last time round so the medical risk meant we decided against it. He’s probably tried to find himself a club on those terms and failed, come back to us asking for less so we might now assess it differently. I think it’s more likely to be that than his injury circumstances changing in such a short space of timeJust thought I’d clear that up as seems to be a lot of misconceptions about medicals in football
The issue is that he's not actually apparently all that sought after by anyone else which is a bit worrying. Either his terms were WAY out or no-one seems inclined to risking it. Either way makes it seem something of a gamble honestly.1 -
Allegedly the issue was an apparent problem with his knee that could impact the longevity of his career (think Chris Solly's knees). If managed, it would be ok, but that meant we didn't want to hand out another A&Eke style multi year guaranteed contract. We wanted to renegotiate the terms of the contract, he asked to train with us.shirty5 said:
So five weeks after he allegedly failed a medical with us, he’s now going to sign on the dotted line.TeeC said:
If they've seen he can stay fit by the extended trial Dabo had basically been on and the terms are more acceptable then he should be an upgrade on Egbo.
*Sorry, posting without wading through the other 100's of them that probably say the exact same thing...3 -
In a way that Aneke’s situation has been ‘managed’. If he does sign, I hope we only offer a one year deal, or even like we did initially with CBT - until Jan.RonnieMoore said:
his problem is not muscle or anything like that and is a situation that can be managed hence the new offer at reduced ratesCroydon said:Does any other club sign players that fail their own medicals? Or is it just us, the club consistently plagued by injuries0 -
Will anyone else be ‘moved on’ before the weekend?0
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Well Kirk and McGrandles didn't feature, and seemingly just there to make up numbers, if imagine both go soon enough, especially when Leaburn, Fraser and Campbell are added back to the squadMendonca In Asdas said:Will anyone else be ‘moved on’ before the weekend?1 -
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Finally I actually know something…
I know someone that knows Dabo.The lad is local and is desperate to join us, he was gutted when he failed his initial medical.It’s not a straightforward injury, he could potentially play 40 games for us, however the doctors are concerned that the issue (which I believe is hip related) could cause the lad issues in the long-term.I’m told that the dialogue between the player, club and medical staff has been ongoing for some time.Let’s hope it all works out, especially for Dabo.61 -
Is he definitely joining us?0
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Mitchcafc07 said:Is he definitely joining us?
Yes Mitch, 100%. Just saw him coming out of valley cafe21 -
That’s amazing, they normally shut at 3!000__Jaaaaay__000 said:Mitchcafc07 said:Is he definitely joining us?
Yes Mitch, 100%. Just saw him coming out of valley cafe2 -
Braziliance said:
Watching that and the other video, what's clear is he can pick a pass like Tayo. It's also pretty handy he can play both flanks for squad rotation.Callumcafc said:
The general consensus from the Coventry fans I've seen, is that he is good on his day but not consistent, but this is of course them speaking about the championship I assume.
He seems quite small (or Djed Spence is giant) so it doesn't really address our physicality issues, but it does seem he can play ball.
I imagine this is gonna go through as Cawley has tweeted and he only usually does when a deal is close, we still need 3 more. It's nice to hear clarification from Cawley that the club want a striker, holds them accountable.
Dabo is 5'11" and Spence 6'0", apparently.
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If Kirk can make the bench Sir Douglas must be worth a try ?Gary Poole said:
He also fails by not having a pulseshirty5 said:
That rules out Douglas Bader thenLargeAddick said:1 -
This Twitter thread is Coventry fans rating Dabo for his career with them. Seems he was hampered by injury a fair amount…
https://x.com/allthingskyblue/status/1671241191579320320?s=46&t=rsrY0_4Lq2Y5apWmOJDkGA
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Basically saying he's decent for this level but probably won't be great if he steps up to the championship with us (haha)Champs85 said:This Twitter thread is Coventry fans rating Dabo for his career with them. Seems he was hampered by injury a fair amount…
https://x.com/allthingskyblue/status/1671241191579320320?s=46&t=rsrY0_4Lq2Y5apWmOJDkGA0 -
Ah. Now I see it.
When Andy Scott said we are looking at players from the league above, he actually meant crocked players from the league above.
Par for the course.12 -
We really can’t afford to sign players that end up playing half a season, it literally would be an Egbo mark 2, and that’s part of the reason the club has been treading water for years.Champs85 said:This Twitter thread is Coventry fans rating Dabo for his career with them. Seems he was hampered by injury a fair amount…
https://x.com/allthingskyblue/status/1671241191579320320?s=46&t=rsrY0_4Lq2Y5apWmOJDkGA3 -
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Injury that could cause problems in the long term...Themightyath2 said:Finally I actually know something…
I know someone that knows Dabo.The lad is local and is desperate to join us, he was gutted when he failed his initial medical.It’s not a straightforward injury, he could potentially play 40 games for us, however the doctors are concerned that the issue (which I believe is hip related) could cause the lad issues in the long-term.I’m told that the dialogue between the player, club and medical staff has been ongoing for some time.Let’s hope it all works out, especially for Dabo.
He's guaranteed to not only sign, but join the illustrious list of Full-Backs (Poole | Youga | Basey | Gibbs | Wiggins) with that issue2 -
They have an agreement with the club whereby they stay open later when a medical is taking place. Seeing how long it takes for him to finish a burger and chips is part of the medical, currently chuks aneke holds the record.Mendonca In Asdas said:
That’s amazing, they normally shut at 3!000__Jaaaaay__000 said:Mitchcafc07 said:Is he definitely joining us?
Yes Mitch, 100%. Just saw him coming out of valley cafe3 -
Wait wait wait, so, Dabo has a potential long term injury/ fitness/ career(?) Issue in the making..... and... he's desperate to sign, for...us?...he wants to put his career and future in our hands??
Oh dear god the silly bastard has no idea7 -
4 year contract apparently.CL_Phantom said:Wait wait wait, so, Dabo has a potential long term injury/ fitness/ career(?) Issue in the making..... and... he's desperate to sign, for ...us?
Oh dear god the silly bastard has no idea3 -
Let's face it, we are fucking perfect for him then!3
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So we urgently need a striker so Scott signs an injured full back on the cheap.
Sounds about right.5 -
charltonbob said:
4 year contract apparently.CL_Phantom said:Wait wait wait, so, Dabo has a potential long term injury/ fitness/ career(?) Issue in the making..... and... he's desperate to sign, for ...us?
Oh dear god the silly bastard has no idea
The poor fcker won't last 4 days with our physio department! 😳0 -
Aneke is advising him on how to pass the medicalLargeAddick said:11 -
Do we even know the reason he failed his medical... A lot of speculation. Could have been anything.
I mean it's a challenge to fail a medical here, but not unheard of4 -
golfaddick said:
Its not all about medicals though is it ? If he does sign will he be fit to play on Saturday ? He might be training with us but he's not had any game time & now we are out of the cup we only have the Pizza Cup he can get match fit.NabySarr said:A reminder that medicals aren’t a pass/fail test to see if a player is injured or has injury issues. It’s an assessment of those things which the club then use to make a decision on whether the player is worth that risk. You could technically still pass a medical with a broken legI think it’s highly likely that Dabo was asking for too much last time round so the medical risk meant we decided against it. He’s probably tried to find himself a club on those terms and failed, come back to us asking for less so we might now assess it differently. I think it’s more likely to be that than his injury circumstances changing in such a short space of timeJust thought I’d clear that up as seems to be a lot of misconceptions about medicals in football
Yet again we seem to be signing players who are not fit enough to go straight into the team. Weird policy when we are already stretched with current injuries. You'd think you'd only be signing players who've had a pre-season & are 100% ready to go.
The club mentality on all aspects of the playing staff is all wrong.golfaddick said:
Its not all about medicals though is it ? If he does sign will he be fit to play on Saturday ? He might be training with us but he's not had any game time & now we are out of the cup we only have the Pizza Cup he can get match fit.NabySarr said:A reminder that medicals aren’t a pass/fail test to see if a player is injured or has injury issues. It’s an assessment of those things which the club then use to make a decision on whether the player is worth that risk. You could technically still pass a medical with a broken legI think it’s highly likely that Dabo was asking for too much last time round so the medical risk meant we decided against it. He’s probably tried to find himself a club on those terms and failed, come back to us asking for less so we might now assess it differently. I think it’s more likely to be that than his injury circumstances changing in such a short space of timeJust thought I’d clear that up as seems to be a lot of misconceptions about medicals in football
Yet again we seem to be signing players who are not fit enough to go straight into the team. Weird policy when we are already stretched with current injuries. You'd think you'd only be signing players who've had a pre-season & are 100% ready to go.
Got a good youngster? - sell him and cash in [an endless list]
Got a promising youngster? Put him in a shit team and destroy his confidence [Ness and others]
How about an older player who comes good? - we don’t need him, get rid [endless list over the years]
Transfer windows? - do little until you have no choice [and it’s always too late. Same every year]
Bought a dud ? - pay him loads and keep him [DJ, Kirk, Payne and so on]
Bought a crock ? - pay him loads and then re-sign him! [Aneke]
Got a senior player who can’t be arsed? - Take your pick over the years
Got a player who is not good enough? Keep playing him and lose games [Albie, Inniss, Stockely and others]
We have no clue about how to build a team and make it better over time.
The incompetence across our club since Curbs left has been constant, apart from 1 year when Bowyer performed miracles - even after that promotion, Roly made sure we would get relegated the following season.
Our decline goes back to when we sold Parker and after Curbs left, we made the dumbest choice to appoint a total knob called Dowie.
Everything we see now has taken years of fuck ups, poor decisions and the dumbest of owners.
Unless there is a massive culture change, our decline will continue - new owners need to step up and invest properly over time.
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