Summer Transfer Rumours - Deadline Day p446

carly burn said:

Ah. Now I see it.
When Andy Scott said we are looking at players from the league above, he actually meant crocked players from the league above.

Par for the course.

grumpyaddick said:

So we urgently need a striker so Scott signs an injured full back on the cheap. 

Sounds about right. 

grumpyaddick said:

So we urgently need a striker so Scott signs an injured full back on the cheap. 

Sounds about right. 

BigDiddy said:

charltonbob said:

CL_Phantom said:

Wait wait wait, so, Dabo has a potential long term injury/ fitness/ career(?) Issue in the making..... and... he's desperate to sign, for ...us?

Oh dear god the silly bastard has no idea

4 year contract apparently. 

Absolute joke

BigDiddy said:

golfaddick said:

NabySarr said:

A reminder that medicals aren’t a pass/fail test to see if a player is injured or has injury issues. It’s an assessment of those things which the club then use to make a decision on whether the player is worth that risk. You could technically still pass a medical with a broken leg 

I think it’s highly likely that Dabo was asking for too much last time round so the medical risk meant we decided against it. He’s probably tried to find himself a club on those terms and failed, come back to us asking for less so we might now assess it differently. I think it’s more likely to be that than his injury circumstances changing in such a short space of time 

Just thought I’d clear that up as seems to be a lot of misconceptions about medicals in football

Its not all about medicals though is it ?  If he does sign will he be fit to play on Saturday ? He might be training with us but he's not had any game time & now we are out of the cup we only have the Pizza Cup he can get match fit.

Yet again we seem to be signing players who are not fit enough to go straight into the team. Weird policy when we are already stretched with current injuries. You'd think you'd only be signing players who've had a pre-season & are 100% ready to go. 

golfaddick said:

NabySarr said:

A reminder that medicals aren’t a pass/fail test to see if a player is injured or has injury issues. It’s an assessment of those things which the club then use to make a decision on whether the player is worth that risk. You could technically still pass a medical with a broken leg 

I think it’s highly likely that Dabo was asking for too much last time round so the medical risk meant we decided against it. He’s probably tried to find himself a club on those terms and failed, come back to us asking for less so we might now assess it differently. I think it’s more likely to be that than his injury circumstances changing in such a short space of time 

Just thought I’d clear that up as seems to be a lot of misconceptions about medicals in football

Its not all about medicals though is it ?  If he does sign will he be fit to play on Saturday ? He might be training with us but he's not had any game time & now we are out of the cup we only have the Pizza Cup he can get match fit.

Yet again we seem to be signing players who are not fit enough to go straight into the team. Weird policy when we are already stretched with current injuries. You'd think you'd only be signing players who've had a pre-season & are 100% ready to go. 

The club mentality on all aspects of the playing staff is all wrong.

Got a good youngster? - sell him and cash in [an endless list]
Got a promising youngster? Put him in a shit team and destroy his confidence [Ness and others]
How about an older player who comes good? - we don’t need him, get rid [endless list over the years]
Transfer windows? - do little until you have no choice [and it’s always too late. Same every year]
Bought a dud ? - pay him loads and keep him [DJ, Kirk, Payne and so on]
Bought a crock ? - pay him loads and then re-sign him! [Aneke] 
Got a senior player who can’t be arsed? - Take your pick over the years 
Got a player who is not good enough? Keep playing him and lose games [Albie, Inniss, Stockely and others]

We have no clue about how to build a team and make it better over time.

The incompetence across our club since Curbs left has been constant, apart from 1 year when Bowyer performed miracles - even after that promotion, Roly made sure we would get relegated the following season.

Our decline goes back to when we sold Parker and after Curbs left, we made the dumbest choice to appoint a total knob called Dowie.

Everything we see now has taken years of fuck ups, poor decisions and the dumbest of owners.

Unless there is a massive culture change, our decline will continue - new owners need to step up and invest properly over time.

BigDiddy said:

carly burn said:

Ah. Now I see it.
When Andy Scott said we are looking at players from the league above, he actually meant crocked players from the league above.

Par for the course.

Clueless clowns - led by Gobby Methven and Scott

PragueAddick said:

ButtleJR said:

Bailey said:

Just to put this deal in context. Chuks Anke will be halfway through his four year deal this coming January 2024, I will leave it to 'those in the know' to reveal how much Chuks is taking home but I would imagine it's a good deal more than Kirks £5400 a week. 

Close to double I've heard.

Nowhere near that ( you are implying £10k) from what I’ve heard. And that Kirk figure also on the high side. Nevertheless @Bailey point is valid. Five unwanted players with 2 years left to pick up a weekly wage most of us can only dream of. Its a big drag on the club’s ability to deal this window. That said, they knew it in advance. Player contracts would have been one of the most important and  visible discoveries during due diligence, and if anyone would have known through previous experience how important it would be, its Charlie Methven! 

Todds_right_hook said:

BigDiddy said:

golfaddick said:

NabySarr said:

A reminder that medicals aren’t a pass/fail test to see if a player is injured or has injury issues. It’s an assessment of those things which the club then use to make a decision on whether the player is worth that risk. You could technically still pass a medical with a broken leg 

I think it’s highly likely that Dabo was asking for too much last time round so the medical risk meant we decided against it. He’s probably tried to find himself a club on those terms and failed, come back to us asking for less so we might now assess it differently. I think it’s more likely to be that than his injury circumstances changing in such a short space of time 

Just thought I’d clear that up as seems to be a lot of misconceptions about medicals in football

Its not all about medicals though is it ?  If he does sign will he be fit to play on Saturday ? He might be training with us but he's not had any game time & now we are out of the cup we only have the Pizza Cup he can get match fit.

Yet again we seem to be signing players who are not fit enough to go straight into the team. Weird policy when we are already stretched with current injuries. You'd think you'd only be signing players who've had a pre-season & are 100% ready to go. 

golfaddick said:

NabySarr said:

A reminder that medicals aren’t a pass/fail test to see if a player is injured or has injury issues. It’s an assessment of those things which the club then use to make a decision on whether the player is worth that risk. You could technically still pass a medical with a broken leg 

I think it’s highly likely that Dabo was asking for too much last time round so the medical risk meant we decided against it. He’s probably tried to find himself a club on those terms and failed, come back to us asking for less so we might now assess it differently. I think it’s more likely to be that than his injury circumstances changing in such a short space of time 

Just thought I’d clear that up as seems to be a lot of misconceptions about medicals in football

Its not all about medicals though is it ?  If he does sign will he be fit to play on Saturday ? He might be training with us but he's not had any game time & now we are out of the cup we only have the Pizza Cup he can get match fit.

Yet again we seem to be signing players who are not fit enough to go straight into the team. Weird policy when we are already stretched with current injuries. You'd think you'd only be signing players who've had a pre-season & are 100% ready to go. 

The club mentality on all aspects of the playing staff is all wrong.

Got a good youngster? - sell him and cash in [an endless list]
Got a promising youngster? Put him in a shit team and destroy his confidence [Ness and others]
How about an older player who comes good? - we don’t need him, get rid [endless list over the years]
Transfer windows? - do little until you have no choice [and it’s always too late. Same every year]
Bought a dud ? - pay him loads and keep him [DJ, Kirk, Payne and so on]
Bought a crock ? - pay him loads and then re-sign him! [Aneke] 
Got a senior player who can’t be arsed? - Take your pick over the years 
Got a player who is not good enough? Keep playing him and lose games [Albie, Inniss, Stockely and others]

We have no clue about how to build a team and make it better over time.

The incompetence across our club since Curbs left has been constant, apart from 1 year when Bowyer performed miracles - even after that promotion, Roly made sure we would get relegated the following season.

Our decline goes back to when we sold Parker and after Curbs left, we made the dumbest choice to appoint a total knob called Dowie.

Everything we see now has taken years of fuck ups, poor decisions and the dumbest of owners.

Unless there is a massive culture change, our decline will continue - new owners need to step up and invest properly over time.

Powell's time in charge?

Roland sold in November, we got relegated in may.

RonnieMoore said:

BigDiddy said:

charltonbob said:

CL_Phantom said:

Wait wait wait, so, Dabo has a potential long term injury/ fitness/ career(?) Issue in the making..... and... he's desperate to sign, for ...us?

Oh dear god the silly bastard has no idea

4 year contract apparently. 

Absolute joke

You believe that .. think the jokes on you there 

he will get 1 year with option of a further one it’s a problem that can be managed now we found out what it is 

ElfsborgAddick said:

RonnieMoore said:

golfaddick said:

It would have been better if the new owners had only paid Sandgaard say £5m and put the other £5m into the club for transfer fees & wages. Instead they paid him c£10m for a loss making club that he himself only paid c£1.5m.....and now dont have any money to strengthen the team. 

The only way they are going to get a return on their money is if we get promoted. This current squad is not good enough for top 6.

And these are guys that are supposedly millionaires who are canny with business decisions. 

These have money don’t worry about that … 600,000 for the Exeter lad 

What salary did they offer? I am sure you know.

Callumcafc said:

BigDiddy said:

charltonbob said:

CL_Phantom said:

Wait wait wait, so, Dabo has a potential long term injury/ fitness/ career(?) Issue in the making..... and... he's desperate to sign, for ...us?

Oh dear god the silly bastard has no idea

4 year contract apparently. 

Absolute joke

Haha I'd be shocked if he gets more than two years. If the club are concerned about fitness issues, you'd hope it'd be a 1 year + 1 year option.